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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

So here we go again, with the latest comments on less than ideal basic setups for the UK.

It is why I'm waiting for production F11 tourings to be on the road, then test the suspension setups. After being 'bitten' by the poor 3-series suspensions, I'm not getting caught again. I still think the core problem is hiding poor RFT behaviour, so everything is a poor compromise. E39 cars could do it all, and no real compromises. We seem to have gone backwards and BMW are scared to lose their key customers, due to tyres. But a poor suspension compromise does not win customers either, certainly not my money, and I'm supposedly a typical 5-series customer.

HighlandPete

Same here. Seems the standard set-up is not tuned for RFTs (17" non-RFT are the base fitment in many EU countries) and this is catching-out BMW UK, who insist on the RFT option. Combined with the UK's twisty camber changing roads and mixed road surfaces, many are saying the same thing - the F10 standard set-up is wrong wrong wrong! The only current way out is to opt for VDC but the car sits very high and looks ... wrong. I'm also waiting but to try the M-Sport set-up before parting with any money. I've wasted a lot of money trying different tyres on my E90. Yet again Autocar hint at BMW tuning the set-up for the UK - this says wait until the next production stage for BMW - March 2011 looks good from here provided test drives this autumn satisfy me. I'm also a typical 5 buyer, and lifetime BMW driver, but I may have to look elsewhere if not satisfied with the F10 - handling/ride/steering is everything in the UK - like a mid-life refreshed XF? Come on BMW get it sorted the UK is not a small market for you.