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2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 BMW M Tuned 5 Series Diesel (M550d / 550dM / 550dXM ?) Reportedly Confirmed |
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08-18-2011, 04:46 AM | #45 | |
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And somehow you guys conviniently forget that Porsche are using VAG diesel in theyr car's now (Cayenne, Panamera) What's better or worse? The world evolves, get back on the carousel people, it's not slowing down, not within this company it is, and that is a good thing imo. BMW are a progressive brand, and very exciting times are ahead of us imo.
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08-18-2011, 06:20 AM | #47 | |
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So progression and evolution are out of the question? What will happen to the driver's philosophy when/if we move on to hydrogen cells or anything that isn't derived from fossil fuels? |
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08-18-2011, 06:53 AM | #48 | |
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Diesel is a LOT cheaper than gasoline/petrol in continental Europe. |
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08-18-2011, 07:06 AM | #49 | ||
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08-18-2011, 07:48 AM | #51 | |
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I would move to Europe just to get this car.
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The power output has been rumored to be 280kw - on a german board there was some sort of info about this engine being placed in the 7 series (750d) also. Lets just say there would be a little bit more power, as it being an ''M'', we would be looking at around 390-400hp. I don't know who wrote that article but 500+ hp is a joke for sure. |
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08-18-2011, 08:39 AM | #53 |
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We do have a proliferation of cycle lanes, but in many rural areas there is no alternative to the car. All things considered though, buses are probably the most common and cheapest alternative. I could do virtually all my travelling via buses, and it would definatley be cheaper for me than driving, however, it would also involve quite a lot of walking, and buses don't tend to be very direct. If I drive to the next town it takes me about 15 minutes, and costs £5-6 return in fuel... I can do it on the bus for £3.20 return, but its a 15 min walk to the bus stop, and a 40 minute bus journey whilst it meanders it's way around the other stops.
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Well, Porsche also has SUV's, turbocharged engines, and a soon to be released Panamera with a diesel engine.
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08-18-2011, 10:09 AM | #56 |
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This is gonna be cool.
But I can't imagine it'll be over 500hp. Even 400hp is a lot.
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08-18-2011, 11:52 AM | #57 | |
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- 6 cylinder - 3 turbos - around 700 NM tq - Hp somewhere around 360-400 - Some kind of like M-variant/badging likely - xDrive very likely So someone just decided to spill "confirmed" BS around with 550 hp ratings and so on. Very clever. Reality check please. Who confirmed?? "Unknown source". Oh yes.
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08-18-2011, 01:38 PM | #60 |
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I strongly suspect that all the diesel haters in this thread never even tried the 535d F10 or 335d E90.
As I'm driving both a 535d and a M3 I can tell from experience that the 535d might not have have the raw speed of the M3. And true, the M3 is BMW's closest thing to a real race car. But IRL on the public road, even on the autobahn hardly any car will outrun the 535d. In-gear acceleration in 3rd, 4th gear is unbeatable. Fuel consumption of the M3 is roughly double that of the 535d.
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08-18-2011, 02:09 PM | #61 |
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I'm with you on this.
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08-18-2011, 02:23 PM | #62 |
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Maybe when the F30 3 series comes out later this year/2012 I switch to a F30 335d instead of a 335i...I'm not anti diesel. Not at all(had a A3 TDI back in '99 chipped to 130BHP back then, and a 330d E46 in 2001, great car) Such a big expensive M550D : Pennywise(mpg etc) poundfoolish(the startingprice of a .35/50d vs its petrol counterpart).... |
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08-18-2011, 02:28 PM | #63 |
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diesel=better torque (it's what makes you take off like a bat out of hell).
Diesel engines don't have sparks. Upgrade injector nozzles, software, better free flow exhaust-less back pressure-and better spooling turbo, and one should get a better performance (torque and horsepower but more so torque) and better GAS MILEAGE!!!!. I would highly recommend to drive X5 35 petrol vs X5 35D. I was one of those that didn't believe in diesel; but recently, technology altered that mentality. If anything, diesel engines will outlast gasoline engines. Last edited by positiveions; 08-18-2011 at 05:02 PM.. |
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08-18-2011, 02:34 PM | #64 |
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In the US the BMW X5 35d is the marques biggest selling diesel. Diesel is successful in sales for the X5 and not so for the 335d as a majority of customers pick the 335i instead.
The next diesel on US shores will be the X3 Diesel and plans to introduce a smaller four cylinder diesel will arrive with the US market X1. |
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08-18-2011, 05:04 PM | #66 |
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this is one of the tuner's claim on 335d. I won't mention the name of the tuner, but if you must know, PM me.
BMW 3.0sd BiTurbo (originally found in BMW X5 xDrive35d model) Before: 265 HP and 425 ft-lb After: 310-340 HP and 515 ft-lb does that convince anyone? |
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