[Touring]

If they keep the warranty if the work is done in Norway,but not in Germany, I would contact BMW in München. I cant imagine they will accept this.

[kave]

Munich is not giving you 5 years, its the norwegian distributor. With the kit I am syre you get the standard euro two years.

[LiveLarger]

I called BMW Norway today and had it confirmed that it was OK to have it fitted in Germany. I didn't ask to have it on paper or anything. Anybody should do their own research and not take my word for it, but personally I wouldn't worry about it.

[m-white]

Originally Posted by LiveLarger

I called BMW Norway today and had it confirmed that it was OK to have it fitted in Germany. I didn't ask to have it on paper or anything. Anybody should do their own research and not take my word for it, but personally I wouldn't worry about it.

Good...sent them an e-mail earlier today with the same question, so hopefully i will get the same answer.

[Superspeed]

Originally Posted by LiveLarger

I called BMW Norway today and had it confirmed that it was OK to have it fitted in Germany. I didn't ask to have it on paper or anything. Anybody should do their own research and not take my word for it, but personally I wouldn't worry about it.

Sorry for interfering in the F10/11 forum guys, but this is good news for the 120d F20 I am picking up on Thursday! Same engine, same kit.
Looking forward to a test drive to Germany during summer

[LiveLarger]

Originally Posted by Superspeed

Sorry for interfering in the F10/11 forum guys, but this is good news for the 120d F20 I am picking up on Thursday! Same engine, same kit.
Looking forward to a test drive to Germany during summer

Don't take my word for it, I encourage people to do their own research

[ALPINAB12COUPE57]

Originally Posted by Touring

I have been looking through the videos, and the figures are like this, starting at 110kmh :

Before tuning:


110-140: 7 sec
110-160: 13sec
110-180: 24sec
110-200: 46sec
110-210: a weekend


After tuning:


110-140: 6sec
110-160: 11sec
110-180: 18sec
110 -200: 28sec
110-210: 35sec

It confirms the feeling I had, that from 150 and up it was like a new car. From 160-200 it took 33 seconds, now 17 seconds, almost twice as fast!

Impressive figures.

Did you by any chance test the topspeed?

[ALPINAB12COUPE57]

Originally Posted by LiveLarger

I don't understand what you mean with wrong range. From 0 to 100 there isn't that much difference between a 520 and a 525. I would expect the numbers there to be very similar with this kit on. In high speed it's the amount of horse power that matters and this is where the norwegian and belgian 520d models will improve the most.

So what you are seeing here is that the car accelerates harder AND the acceleration stays on hard for a longer time before the amount of effect lose against the friction of the air.

Since HP in a way is a mathematically result of torque and rpm the problem here is the lack of torque in the upper rpm area.

To avoid the HP to increase abouve 163 Hp the torque curve is reduced at an earlier point than with the 184 HP version.

That is why our 163 HP version feels week at high speed and high rpms.

With the tuning kit you will keep the torque much longer in the rpm range. As a result the HP will be much higher in the upper part of the range.

[Touring]

Originally Posted by ALPINAB12COUPE57

Did you by any chance test the topspeed?

I did not use a gps, but on the speedometer it was a little under 220, now about 230. But its alot quicker above 200 now.

[LiveLarger]

There is a torque/hp chart for the engine with the kit in the catalog now Looks good

[kave]

Please come to Freeprort soon so we can compare against my standard 185HP car.

[kave]

Originally Posted by Touring

I have been looking through the videos, and the figures are like this, starting at 110kmh :



After tuning:


110-140: 6sec
110-160: 11sec
110-180: 18sec
110 -200: 28sec
110-210: 35sec

It confirms the feeling I had, that from 150 and up it was like a new car. From 160-200 it took 33 seconds, now 17 seconds, almost twice as fast!

Your figures are very similar to my standard 520D with sports automatic.
I get:
110-140: 6 sec
110-160: 11,5 sec
110-180: 19,5 sec

It seems it makes most difference at speed.
I will try 110-200 and 210 tomorrow.

[Touring]

Originally Posted by kave

I will try 110-200 and 210 tomorrow.

Watch out for Polisen

[kave]

I am doing it on a closed track What do you think?

[ipso_facto]

Originally Posted by ipso_facto

Hope it's going well Touring!

We still don't have this in the UK - 1er and 3er only still:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/owner/acc...uct=drivetrain

I doubt if they will make this kit available in the UK, as it will have negative impact on the 4 cylinder 525D sales, which is just over 5,000 GBP more in the UK at new cost, over the same spec 520D (so approx. 6,000 Euro at current exchange rate). If anything, I doubt that the kit won't be made available for some considerable time, so that BMW UK can benefit from 4 cylinder 525D sales for a couple of years.

Logical entry point for the UK market will be after the first M Sport derivatives come out of warranty - at which point, the much cheaper 3rd-party options for increased performance, become a viable option. I think perhaps from September 2013 time frame ... maybe. Perhaps I'm talking rubbish - just trying to think through the logic of the corporate machine.

Okay: the kit is available in the UK now:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/owner/acc...uct=drivetrain

You have to explicitly select:

Model: 5 Series Saloon from 03/10
Category: BMW M Performance
[Go]

The price is quoted as "from" £919. This includes VAT but excludes fitting.

The text includes: "For 520d from 06/10. Increase in performance from 135 kW to 147 kW, increase in torque from 380 Nm to 420 Nm, new engine control unit, modified engine electronics, more powerful intercooler."

So 147 kW: 200 Pferdestärken (PS), or 197 HP

As opposed 135 kW: 184 Pferdestärken (PS), or 181 HP

This is an 8.7% increase in power and 10.5% increase in torque for the UK spec. 520d

[MalithS]

Originally Posted by ipso_facto

Okay: the kit is available in the UK now:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/owner/acc...uct=drivetrain

You have to explicitly select:

Model: 5 Series Saloon from 03/10
Category: BMW M Performance
[Go]

The price is quoted as "from" £919. This includes VAT but excludes fitting.

The text includes: "For 520d from 06/10. Increase in performance from 135 kW to 147 kW, increase in torque from 380 Nm to 420 Nm, new engine control unit, modified engine electronics, more powerful intercooler."

So 147 kW: 200 Pferdestärken (PS), or 197 HP

As opposed 135 kW: 184 Pferdestärken (PS), or 181 HP

This is an 8.7% increase in power and 10.5% increase in torque for the UK spec. 520d

Finally its arrived in the UK. Called up my local dealer and was quoted £1238 for the kit fitted (for the 520d auto). The kit on its own is £967 excluding the fitting and software updating. I was told the kit would include:

DDE Control Unit
Lower air guide
Intercooler
Software Update

[Touring]

So you are going to get installed? Would be nice to hear you opinion if you do :-)

[ipso_facto]

Originally Posted by Touring

So you are going to get installed? Would be nice to hear you opinion if you do :-)

I have 18 months left on my lease, then I am planning to purchase the car. Given this relative short duration, I think I will wait and simply purchase an after market box, as I will be past the warranty period. At approximately £350 versus £1,238 (as per MalithS quote), I can't justify the cost.

I'll go for one of the fairly tame boxes (200 to 220ps range), as I do not want to stress the car.

That said: I'd also be keen, MalithS, to hear your experience, if you go for the kit.

Cheers ...

[ALPINAB12COUPE57]

Originally Posted by m-white

Hello Touring. I was wondering if you feel any differences in torque between 0 to 100km/h.? Cause that`s were we usually stay here in Norway.

This is the reason why i wonder about this, text about the kit:

" Ved hjelp av programvare og maskinvarekomponenter får bilen en ekstra effektøkning. Motorens maksimale dreiemoment er avhengig av valgt gir."

It says that maximum torque depends of chosen gear.

The 120dA is almost 1 sec faster 0-100 after tuning, and close to 3 sec faster from 0-140. U feel the difference from the first meter. A totalt changed car.

[///Marco.it]

According to BMW Italy the M performance kit will be soon released also for 530d and 535i cars.
I can't wait.

[Pierval]

I am planning in a few months, when my car turns 2 years and the warranty by bmw is expired, to let modify the ecu of my 520d from 184hp/380nm to 215hp/430nm by a well reputed car tuner here in my neighborhood (take a look at his website: www.autotuneheinz.be). Since the M performance package is twice the price for half the performance, I prefer this. Are there any arguments not to do this , since warranty will be expired anyway ?
I'm planning to sell this 520d when it has about 200.000km (when it's about 4-5 years old).

[///Marco.it]

Originally Posted by Pierval

I am planning in a few months, when my car turns 2 years and the warranty by bmw is expired, to let modify the ecu of my 520d from 184hp/380nm to 215hp/430nm by a well reputed car tuner here in my neighborhood (take a look at his website: www.autotuneheinz.be). Since the M performance package is twice the price for half the performance, I prefer this. Are there any arguments not to do this , since warranty will be expired anyway ?
I'm planning to sell this 520d when it has about 200.000km (when it's about 4-5 years old).

This I do not know. In Italy BMW gives 4 years of warranty thus is worth spending few euros more to have an original performance kit.