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[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by Spool

You own an E92 M3? that FR-S will feel like a 1989 Corolla that's in bad need of a tune up...

I work for Toyota, FR-S would've been a good idea back in the late 90's when 200hp cars were considered fast...

I drove it, it's a piece of shit, slow as hell, no clue why it's sold out...

I'd hardly call it a POS. The reason the FRS and BRZ are popular is because they are affordable, lightweight, RWD, great handling, little sports cars. What other cars are in this segment? There is the MX-5, but that is a roadster. These cars just came out, so most likely there will be more powerful variants down the line. Think of how much fun these cars can be if they eventually end up with 250+ horsepower.

Just because this is a BMW forum doesn't mean we should have an elitist attitude towards less expensive enthusiast cars.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

I'd hardly call it a POS. The reason the FRS and BRZ are popular is because they are affordable, lightweight, RWD, great handling, little sports cars. What other cars are in this segment? There is the MX-5, but that is a roadster. These cars just came out, so most likely there will be more powerful variants down the line. Think of how much fun these cars can be if they eventually end up with 250+ horsepower.

Just because this is a BMW forum doesn't mean we should have an elitist attitude towards less expensive enthusiast cars.

I agree with you, but the issue I feel is the mark up on these cars

Didn't Subrau say dealer's aren't allowed to mark them up or something?

It's good value for mid 20s or so. but going over 30k... I'd take a 370Z

[6MT M3]

Originally Posted by persian54

I agree with you, but the issue I feel is the mark up on these cars

Didn't Subrau say dealer's aren't allowed to mark them up or something?

It's good value for mid 20s or so. but going over 30k... I'd take a 370Z

They aren't suppose to mark them up...

[kevinbahnz]

Thats actually not bad if it was in the mid 20s.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by HuangYiChao

They aren't suppose to mark them up...

The people who I know who bought them all paid at least 1-2k mark up on them :/


I went into Subi and wanted to test drive it.... but then they told me they want 6k over and they won't budge.... I walked straight out.

[6MT M3]

Originally Posted by persian54

The people who I know who bought them all paid at least 1-2k mark up on them :/


I went into Subi and wanted to test drive it.... but then they told me they want 6k over and they won't budge.... I walked straight out.

Yeup same here. dealers here wont even let you test drive them. I found some kid moving to canada selling his with over 1k mi for 29k which is still over msrp... I will wait till the hype goes down. I have yet to try my friend's frs with coilovers hard on twisties. Chris Harris likes it over the 370z so it must be pretty good. Straight line acceleration is a joke... traded cars with my friend and while I was flooring it in 2nd he was in my m3 in 6th and not even full throttle passing me lol..

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by persian54

I agree with you, but the issue I feel is the mark up on these cars

Didn't Subrau say dealer's aren't allowed to mark them up or something?

It's good value for mid 20s or so. but going over 30k... I'd take a 370Z

Yeah, I believe the dealers aren't supposed to be marking them up, but they always find a way to get around that. It's just like what some Subaru and Mitsubishi dealers did when the STi and Evo came out. I certainly wouldn't pay a markup if I were shopping for one, because like you said, that puts you into the 370Z range and not to mention a wide array of used cars as well.