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      09-30-2012, 09:16 PM   #1
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2013 550i GAS GUZZLER TAX!!!!

Wow I can't believe they are charging a GAS GUZZLER TAX on the 550. They weren't doing that before. I mean I understand why. My 550i with manual transmission only gives me 8-10 mpg when I drive in NYC (Manhattan) with only me in car. When I have a full car 5ppl, it's gone as Low as 6 mpg on 23 miles trip.

But I thought GGT would only be on sports version like M models.. ::
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      09-30-2012, 11:22 PM   #2
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how much is this tax anyway?
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      10-01-2012, 04:25 AM   #3
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Jeez, I wonder why!!!
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lol. are you serious?
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EPA rates it at 15/22 and 17 combined, so that $1,000 in Gas Guzzler Tax.
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Wow I can't believe they are charging a GAS GUZZLER TAX on the 550. They weren't doing that before. I mean I understand why. My 550i with manual transmission only gives me 8-10 mpg when I drive in NYC (Manhattan) with only me in car. When I have a full car 5ppl, it's gone as Low as 6 mpg on 23 miles trip.

But I thought GGT would only be on sports version like M models.. ::
If you're getting 8-10 mpg in the city...what are you driving and how? I am getting about 16.5 in the city and maybe 18-19 mpg on the hwy. 6mpg and <10mpg is low I think. I'd be going the 335d or X5d or 535d route if I was getting that most definitely!
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      10-02-2012, 05:28 AM   #7
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Isn't the Gas Guzzler tax only on manual transmissions?
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      10-02-2012, 06:50 AM   #8
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Is it 1000 a year or just once when you buy the car?
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      10-02-2012, 12:32 PM   #9
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Is it 1000 a year or just once when you buy the car?
It is a one time tax when you purchase the car.
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      10-02-2012, 06:11 PM   #10
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Isn't the Gas Guzzler tax only on manual transmissions?
Yup. The autos are 16/24 and 17/25.
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      10-03-2012, 04:26 AM   #11
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It is a one time tax when you purchase the car.
Should be once a year... Sorry to say this, but less than 10 mpg is almost insulting to the environment.
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Should be once a year... Sorry to say this, but less than 10 mpg is almost insulting to the environment.
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Should be once a year... Sorry to say this, but less than 10 mpg is almost insulting to the environment.
I am a lead foot, and have never got below 10mpg. The manual transmission must be very poorly setup.

However the reason I have an issue with gas guzzler tax is that SUVs eg Hummer and Escalade are exempt. So I can drive a relatively fuel efficient 20mpg M5 and pay gas guzzler tax, while someone else drives a 10mpg Cadillac Escalade and Pays no gas guzzler tax.

It is American Protectionism nothing more, and the government should be ashamed.
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Should be once a year... Sorry to say this, but less than 10 mpg is almost insulting to the environment.
Perhaps you're right, that is if you believe in manmade global warming hoax!
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      10-03-2012, 07:03 AM   #15
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I am a lead foot, and have never got below 10mpg. The manual transmission must be very poorly setup.

However the reason I have an issue with gas guzzler tax is that SUVs eg Hummer and Escalade are exempt. So I can drive a relatively fuel efficient 20mpg M5 and pay gas guzzler tax, while someone else drives a 10mpg Cadillac Escalade and Pays no gas guzzler tax.

It is American Protectionism nothing more, and the government should be ashamed.
I hear you it's government motors obama kissing union's behinds.
I have a 535i MT6 and getting around 23 mpg and i jump on it all the time
this is a BS tax we must fire them in November
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It is a one time tax when you purchase the car.
Wow, you are lucky! We pay around 150 000 Dollars on C02 and HP tax on the same car. So enjoy life :-)
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      10-03-2012, 02:53 PM   #17
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I can attest to him: I live in Manhattan and mostly drive in Manhattan. I get 10 mpg with 535i and 10.5 mpg with Jaguar XJ (470 bhp).

NYC traffic is crazy (one needs to break often for traffic lights, crazy pedestrians and bikers, lane cutting cabbies, etc).

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If you're getting 8-10 mpg in the city...what are you driving and how? I am getting about 16.5 in the city and maybe 18-19 mpg on the hwy. 6mpg and <10mpg is low I think. I'd be going the 335d or X5d or 535d route if I was getting that most definitely!
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      10-03-2012, 03:50 PM   #18
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OK - I did some research on the EPA site. It states that the tax applies for cars that have a combined rating of 22.5 or less. The 550 x-drive auto has a combined rating of 19mpg, but I did not pay a tax when I purchased my 2013 model. While I am glad I did not pay a tax, I am confused.
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Should be once a year... Sorry to say this, but less than 10 mpg is almost insulting to the environment.
I have never seen less than 15 mpg in town...and high 20's on the highway.
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Perhaps you're right, that is if you believe in manmade global warming hoax!
I might believe in God, Buddha or Allah, but global warming and climate change due to human activity are scientifically proved facts.
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I might believe in God, Buddha or Allah, but global warming and climate change due to human activity are scientifically proved facts.
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I might believe in God, Buddha or Allah, but global warming and climate change due to human activity are scientifically proved facts.
False data manipulated by greedy progressive scientist, please wake up it was all over the internet.
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