Excessive oil consumption - Page 2

Jimefam · 12-07-2011, 05:42 PM

Well your not burning oil like me but since you are in a much colder climate maybe you might be interested in the Mobil 1 0W-40 that I used on my last oil change. You probably won't change oil again before the winters over but the 0w will protect more on start up and I think the thicker viscosity at high temp is the reason I'm only down a 1/4 of a quart through 3,000 miles when I was burning a quart every 2k before. It's also on BMW's approved LL-01(long life) oils so no warranty issues should something happen. I'm sure what you used is more than good enough just thought I'd bring up positive results I've had with the switch.

alextremo · 02-27-2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextremo

Nope. They said they didn't see anything else wrong when they opened it up. Maybe a defective gasket or it got nicked on install or something? (fingers crossed)

Went back under the car after a couple months of driving after they replaced the gasket and found that the oil pan was again covered in a light film of oil. Not as bad as last time, but definitely moist. It's back at the dealer now - they say they are going to replace the oil pan this time, they think there could have been a defect in the forging process. We'll see...

I also have them looking at a rough idle I've been experiencing, most prevalent when the engine is at operating temps. It's nothing you can see on the tach, but the rough idle is strong enough to shake you in your seat when it happens, worse than my 10yr old Jeep Wrangler does. Anyone else have this?

Vinfast · 02-27-2012, 06:10 PM

Mine does this at idle when at operating temperature, but my Dinan rep told me it was because of the Dinan Stage 2 tune --- mine doesn't shake you in your seat though.

alextremo · 02-27-2012, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinfast

Mine does this at idle when at operating temperature, but my Dinan rep told me it was because of the Dinan Stage 2 tune --- mine doesn't shake you in your seat though.

Hmm - I'd be really surprised if it's the tune, i wouldn't think they'd change anything from the stock mapping at idle. It's strong enough that I can feel it shaking in my legs and butt. I don't think you should feel the engine idle at all in a 1 year old $75k luxury sedan.

BMWrules7 · 02-28-2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextremo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimefam

Did they tell you why that gasket failed? I can't think of a single reason why they would reuse the oil besides cost? As for break in I followed it completely for 2,000 miles during my ED, the last 1200 miles of the trip I drove it hard. I also put it on ramps last night and double checked for any sign of oil and everything is clean down there no signs of a problem.

Nope. They said they didn't see anything else wrong when they opened it up. Maybe a defective gasket or it got nicked on install or something? (fingers crossed)

I think you're right about the oil and cost, but maybe they would claim they are protecting the environment by reusing good oil?? Either way it was a bit surprising/annoying, but not that big an issue for me as I had already purchased the materials and had planned to do it myself.

My problem with reusing the oil is the possibility of contamination. Whatever device the dealer uses to reclaim the oil was probably used for some other purpose like reclaiming transmission fluid at one point.

I am not asking for a sterility here, but you know if a tech has to drain a liquid he is going to use the same device and this will lead to contamination.

Ty · 09-16-2012, 02:42 PM

I have a 2012 BMW 550i. I bought it in Texas on 6/30/12. it is a wonderful driving car. Yes, the ultimate driving machine I agree. It had 1800 mi when I purchased the vehicle. One month later and roughly 1400 mi of driving, the oil needed to be what BMW calls topped off due to the electronic sensor detection indicating low oil level. It is now Sept. 16, 2012, and I am nearly at the minimum level again with the vehicle at 4600 miles. Btw, the technician told me it is normal for this car to burn a quart of oil between 700 and 1k mi because its a high performance engine. Honestly, I believe that is crazy. I guess If I were to travel across the country, I will need to carry a a six pack of oil in the trunk of a new car... Btw, I have to use Castrol synthetic 5w30 weight oil at a little over $9/ quart. I believe there is a design flaw and am concerned... I just purchased 2 quarts of oil and have them handy as I motor around DFW...

The X Men · 09-16-2012, 05:20 PM

Ty, burning a quart every 1500 miles is definitely not normal, hopefully the oil consumption will slow down as the engine age. Was your car a demo?

mrainv23 · 10-07-2012, 09:04 AM

I have the same situation with my 550i. I add 1 quart approx. every 3000 miles. I have gotten use to keeping a spare quart in the vehicle. I am definitely going to ask about this at my first oil change at the end of this month.

bubbahead · 10-07-2012, 10:48 AM

I got 40000km on my car.. I was burning about 1 qt every 3000km.
As of now my SA told me to come in 5 times at 1000km intervals to measure the oil consumption and top off. After the 5th time they will add up the consumption and file some sort of report with BMW and see what they recommend we do, if anything. I will keep everyone posted. I'm going in for my 3rd checkup this week. I think if you have a good relationship with a SA, he/she will give the value added service.

limpeh · 11-27-2012, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbahead

I got 40000km on my car.. I was burning about 1 qt every 3000km.
As of now my SA told me to come in 5 times at 1000km intervals to measure the oil consumption and top off. After the 5th time they will add up the consumption and file some sort of report with BMW and see what they recommend we do, if anything. I will keep everyone posted. I'm going in for my 3rd checkup this week. I think if you have a good relationship with a SA, he/she will give the value added service.

My F10 M5 needs to top up 1 quart every 700km. During the 1st 2000km servicing, I have topped up 2 quarts. After oil change at about 2000km, I topped up 1 quart again at 2800km and just this morning another 1 quart at 3800km. My SA told me that this is still within BMW specs and assured me that the oil consumption will come down slightly at 5000km and significantly after 10,000km.

I never had any chance to rev my engine RPM beyond 4000rpm so far as I am caused in very bad traffic jams everyday since I bought the car. Not sure if this is the cause of my M5's high oil consumption?

JNoSol · 11-27-2012, 10:24 AM

Looks like BMW needs to go back to the drawing board. I'm waiting to hear if the '13 LCI 750 with the 445hp N63 has the same issue. I'm positive the re-tuned engine will hit the F10 LCI next summer, which I'm eagerly waiting for..

If I own a 550, I would use 2 oil catch cans (one for each intake). I believe it's not just burning oil, but sucking through the intake vacuum hose. No matter what the technicians tell you, burning at least 2qt between an oil change is not normal for a brand new car.

It's a business decision. It's cheaper to give you free oil within the warranty than repairing the engine flaw.

dbs600 · 04-23-2013, 05:06 PM

Is our excessive oil consumption problem a defect?

Volvo and Subaru are catching the attention of this firm for same: www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress

(March 19th and February 27th articles)

Screamin · 04-23-2013, 08:16 PM

All of my BMWs have burned more oil than I thought they should. I got in the habit of carrying a couple quarts in the trunk. They are notorious for burning oil.

dbs600 · 04-23-2013, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screamin

They are notorious for burning oil.

But should they be allowed to be?

Screamin · 04-24-2013, 08:17 PM

No, probably not. But it's become part of my weekly maintenance ritual the past few years to check it, I don't even bother to sweat it. To me it's less annoying than the later models loosing that distinctive BMW interior smell, but that's another thread.

Lee · 04-24-2013, 11:24 PM

Interesting thread. Just hit 10K and added my second quart.

Boulder Bill · 05-02-2013, 11:10 AM

Adding the second quart today at just under 7,000 miles. SA says 1 quart every 1,000 miles is manufacturer specification. I said that I thought that was ridiculous and he just shrugged and said that was what they were told.

It will be interesting to see how much oil is burned after 10-20,000 miles. Anyone with a 2011 550 have any experiences to report?

JamRWS6 · 05-02-2013, 12:55 PM

Just rolled 11K and had to have the dealer add a quart. I changed the oil at 1K so make it about 10K before needing a quart.

Chili Palmer · 05-02-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNoSol

It's a business decision. It's cheaper to give you free oil within the warranty than repairing the engine flaw.

You're right it's a business decision because it's such an inconvenience to go to the dealer and sit for 30-60 minutes while they have to have to pull a tech away from what he's doing to put one quart of oil into the car, most people would just do it themselves then hassle it. That's what they're betting on and winning.

dbs600 · 05-02-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chili Palmer

You're right it's a business decision because it's such an inconvenience to go to the dealer and sit for 30-60 minutes while they have to have to pull a tech away from what he's doing to put one quart of oil into the car, most people would just do it themselves then hassle it. That's what they're betting on and winning.

Everything about this company has become so frustrating! Total, unacceptable BS.

JamRWS6 · 05-02-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chili Palmer

You're right it's a business decision because it's such an inconvenience to go to the dealer and sit for 30-60 minutes while they have to have to pull a tech away from what he's doing to put one quart of oil into the car, most people would just do it themselves then hassle it. That's what they're betting on and winning.

I pulled in to the service drive, told the guy about my minimum oil message. He came right back w/ a quart, put it in the car, and then we re-checked the oil level and I was on my way. Waiting for a tech would be pretty frustrating.

Screamin · 05-02-2013, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbs600

Everything about this company has become so frustrating! Total, unacceptable BS.

Do you feel it's the company or the dealer?

09-16-2012, 02:42 PM	#28
Ty Registered Drives: 2012 BMW 550i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	Large oil consumption surprising for a new vehicle I have a 2012 BMW 550i. I bought it in Texas on 6/30/12. it is a wonderful driving car. Yes, the ultimate driving machine I agree. It had 1800 mi when I purchased the vehicle. One month later and roughly 1400 mi of driving, the oil needed to be what BMW calls topped off due to the electronic sensor detection indicating low oil level. It is now Sept. 16, 2012, and I am nearly at the minimum level again with the vehicle at 4600 miles. Btw, the technician told me it is normal for this car to burn a quart of oil between 700 and 1k mi because its a high performance engine. Honestly, I believe that is crazy. I guess If I were to travel across the country, I will need to carry a a six pack of oil in the trunk of a new car... Btw, I have to use Castrol synthetic 5w30 weight oil at a little over $9/ quart. I believe there is a design flaw and am concerned... I just purchased 2 quarts of oil and have them handy as I motor around DFW...

10-07-2012, 10:48 AM	#31
bubbahead First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 550ix Msport Join Date: May 2009 Location: GTA Posts: 308 iTrader: (0)	I got 40000km on my car.. I was burning about 1 qt every 3000km. As of now my SA told me to come in 5 times at 1000km intervals to measure the oil consumption and top off. After the 5th time they will add up the consumption and file some sort of report with BMW and see what they recommend we do, if anything. I will keep everyone posted. I'm going in for my 3rd checkup this week. I think if you have a good relationship with a SA, he/she will give the value added service. __________________ 2011 550ix Retired: 2009 e92 335i msport 2006 acura TL 2004 Mazda 6 GT GFX 1987 325is

11-27-2012, 10:24 AM	#33
JNoSol Captain Drives: F02 750Li and E70-Sport (N55) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 650 iTrader: (0)	Looks like BMW needs to go back to the drawing board. I'm waiting to hear if the '13 LCI 750 with the 445hp N63 has the same issue. I'm positive the re-tuned engine will hit the F10 LCI next summer, which I'm eagerly waiting for.. If I own a 550, I would use 2 oil catch cans (one for each intake). I believe it's not just burning oil, but sucking through the intake vacuum hose. No matter what the technicians tell you, burning at least 2qt between an oil change is not normal for a brand new car. It's a business decision. It's cheaper to give you free oil within the warranty than repairing the engine flaw. Last edited by JNoSol; 11-27-2012 at 10:40 AM.

04-23-2013, 08:16 PM	#35
Screamin New Member Drives: 2012 528i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Detroit Posts: 28 iTrader: (0)	All of my BMWs have burned more oil than I thought they should. I got in the habit of carrying a couple quarts in the trunk. They are notorious for burning oil. __________________ '12 F10 528i xDrive (Jet Black) '11 E71 X6 xDrive35i (Black Sapphire Metallic) - Gone '06 E60 530xi (Titanium Silver Metallic) - Gone '97 E39 528i (Arctic Silver Metallic) - Gone

04-24-2013, 08:17 PM	#37
Screamin New Member Drives: 2012 528i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Detroit Posts: 28 iTrader: (0)	No, probably not. But it's become part of my weekly maintenance ritual the past few years to check it, I don't even bother to sweat it. To me it's less annoying than the later models loosing that distinctive BMW interior smell, but that's another thread. __________________ '12 F10 528i xDrive (Jet Black) '11 E71 X6 xDrive35i (Black Sapphire Metallic) - Gone '06 E60 530xi (Titanium Silver Metallic) - Gone '97 E39 528i (Arctic Silver Metallic) - Gone

12-07-2011, 05:42 PM	#23
Jimefam Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 550I Msport Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Well your not burning oil like me but since you are in a much colder climate maybe you might be interested in the Mobil 1 0W-40 that I used on my last oil change. You probably won't change oil again before the winters over but the 0w will protect more on start up and I think the thicker viscosity at high temp is the reason I'm only down a 1/4 of a quart through 3,000 miles when I was burning a quart every 2k before. It's also on BMW's approved LL-01(long life) oils so no warranty issues should something happen. I'm sure what you used is more than good enough just thought I'd bring up positive results I've had with the switch.

02-27-2012, 06:10 PM	#25
Vinfast Lieutenant Drives: '11 550i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 412 iTrader: (2)	Mine does this at idle when at operating temperature, but my Dinan rep told me it was because of the Dinan Stage 2 tune --- mine doesn't shake you in your seat though.

09-16-2012, 05:20 PM	#29
The X Men Major Drives: 2012 535xi 2013 X3 35i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: MA Posts: 1,259 iTrader: (0)	Ty, burning a quart every 1500 miles is definitely not normal, hopefully the oil consumption will slow down as the engine age. Was your car a demo?

10-07-2012, 09:04 AM	#30
mrainv23 mrainv23 Drives: 2011 BMW 550i F10 M Sport Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I have the same situation with my 550i. I add 1 quart approx. every 3000 miles. I have gotten use to keeping a spare quart in the vehicle. I am definitely going to ask about this at my first oil change at the end of this month.

04-23-2013, 05:06 PM	#34
dbs600 Captain Drives: 2011 750LXi Individual Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY Posts: 749 iTrader: (0)	Is our excessive oil consumption problem a defect? Volvo and Subaru are catching the attention of this firm for same: www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress (March 19th and February 27th articles)

04-24-2013, 11:24 PM	#38
Lee Second Lieutenant Drives: '12 550ix m sport, '01 Z3 3.0 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 223 iTrader: (0)	Interesting thread. Just hit 10K and added my second quart.

05-02-2013, 11:10 AM	#39
Boulder Bill Private First Class Drives: for fun. Always. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 109 iTrader: (0)	Adding the second quart today at just under 7,000 miles. SA says 1 quart every 1,000 miles is manufacturer specification. I said that I thought that was ridiculous and he just shrugged and said that was what they were told. It will be interesting to see how much oil is burned after 10-20,000 miles. Anyone with a 2011 550 have any experiences to report? __________________ 2013 F10 550i/6 M-Sport retired: 2002 E39 540i/6

05-02-2013, 12:55 PM	#40
JamRWS6 Private Drives: 2012 535i M Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	Just rolled 11K and had to have the dealer add a quart. I changed the oil at 1K so make it about 10K before needing a quart.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search