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      12-24-2012, 08:29 AM   #1
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5 series vs CLS....anyone compare?

Ok...I wrote a thread last week about the 5 series versus the 7 series.

My main thing is I put a lot of miles on my cars....25k per year at least.....so I had a F02 but got rid of it pretty quickly because I would have used way way too many miles....probably 50k over (and BMW didn't discount miles if you bought them upfront like they did when I had my M6 right before....I was able to pay 0.16 buying them before lease ended versus 0.25 penalty at end. They did not discount the 0.25 per mile at all for the 750li).

So....leasing is really probably out of my league. I leased my M6 back in 2009 for....kid you not....$6k down....24 months....$800/month and that included taxes. It was brand new...$120k MSRP they sold me for $97k. That same car was going for literally $2k month for a 24 month lease....just months before.

So that sort of jaded me in terms of what a lease should cost. The M6 is the top of the line when it comes to BMW models....and when I had my 750li....I was paying $1119/mo for 36 months. In other words....a lot more money for a lot longer time period...for a car that cost less and wasn't an M6. It looked great....but not $1100/month great.

So....it brings me to buying. I need a backseat. I have a 5 year old little boy. Buying a used 7 series was an option.....$50k or so. However, as anal as it seems...I want the LED lights. That means I'd have to wait another 3 years and by then the new 7 will be coming out....so the 7 series is kinda out.

I was thinking the Benz E class.....but they are doing some major LCI changing for the 2014.....so there is no use buying an EClass now. Panameras don't have enough power....not to mention they are a lot more than the competitors.

Lexus GS.....fugly. Lexus LS....haven't seen it in person....but looks ugly in pics. Audi.....the A7 doesn't do it for me...and they are dime a dozen. The A6 is the same way......A8 is decent but too old man's car compared to a F10 or CLS.

So.....550 vs CLS550. Thoughts? Both great cars....but I think if I bought one in the 50s....that there will still be several years until style is changed. I know cars change a lot....but I want the best bang for my buck.....to own the best car possible during a period it won't be majorly updated. CLS is still 2 years away from even a minor thing.....BMW could be LCI'ing the F10 for 2014 even....depending on how they are treated the 550GT in terms of whether 2010 or 2011 is initial f10 start year.
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It seems like you have interest in a lot of cars.
I would say go test then all and see for yourself which you like best.
As for the CLS, you won't be getting one in the $50k range unless high miles. Best advise is to avoid high miles Mercedes at all cost.
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      12-25-2012, 02:29 AM   #3
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Looked at the CLS as well, but it was about 20K more than my 550. At that price I could've purchased a 6 or M5. Also looked at the E, but its stance is too upright for me.

If you're looking to be unique, how about a Jag?
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It seems like you're border line of choosing the F10, but you would prefer the LCI. The 2014 LCI should come out the summer of '13 if you can wait. I'm sure the 550 with get 445hp and all F10 models will get the LCD Dash/Cluster (like the '13 7s).

The current F10 with mSport is still unique. Go for the BMW, you will not look back. At least I haven't!
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      12-26-2012, 03:49 AM   #5
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Yeah, I think you will see the CLS be in the high 50's this summer....with not real high miles.

LCI F10 might be something to think about for sure.....however, wouldn't you think that would be the 2015 model?

E60 was 2004-2010....LCI was in 2008.....so 4 model years before LCI was done.

I'm not sure if BMW will consider the 2010 550i GT as being the start of the 4 year period for the F10 sedans since there were none in 2010. I would think 2011 would technically be the first year for the sedan.....2015-2017 for LCI.
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Yeah, I think you will see the CLS be in the high 50's this summer....with not real high miles.

LCI F10 might be something to think about for sure.....however, wouldn't you think that would be the 2015 model?

E60 was 2004-2010....LCI was in 2008.....so 4 model years before LCI was done.

I'm not sure if BMW will consider the 2010 550i GT as being the start of the 4 year period for the F10 sedans since there were none in 2010. I would think 2011 would technically be the first year for the sedan.....2015-2017 for LCI.
i have both 13 550xi and a 12 cls63. both two different animals even outside of their engines and suspension. Its probably best to compare the cls550 with the 650 gran coupe as both are only 4 seater coupe type bodys. The 550 is more comparable to a e550 with the headroom and interior space. E vs 5 IMO there is no comparo. The 5 has a better ride, better interior, better technology, and I think has a smoother sexier look as opposed to the edgier more rigid E. BTW no way you're getting a CLS550 in the 50's anytime soon. The new CLS came out in '12 and used low mileage you're still looking in the mid 80's. The '12 550xi's are in the mid 50's with low mileage and the CLS550 is about 10-15k more than that depending on options. If you're looking to spend mid 50's then look at the 5 or an other model CLS.
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5 series is better than E class. Although in that price range, you can get a nice Jag XF Superchaged or a mildly used XJ supercharged

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Ok...I wrote a thread last week about the 5 series versus the 7 series.

My main thing is I put a lot of miles on my cars....25k per year at least.....so I had a F02 but got rid of it pretty quickly because I would have used way way too many miles....probably 50k over (and BMW didn't discount miles if you bought them upfront like they did when I had my M6 right before....I was able to pay 0.16 buying them before lease ended versus 0.25 penalty at end. They did not discount the 0.25 per mile at all for the 750li).

So....leasing is really probably out of my league. I leased my M6 back in 2009 for....kid you not....$6k down....24 months....$800/month and that included taxes. It was brand new...$120k MSRP they sold me for $97k. That same car was going for literally $2k month for a 24 month lease....just months before.

So that sort of jaded me in terms of what a lease should cost. The M6 is the top of the line when it comes to BMW models....and when I had my 750li....I was paying $1119/mo for 36 months. In other words....a lot more money for a lot longer time period...for a car that cost less and wasn't an M6. It looked great....but not $1100/month great.

So....it brings me to buying. I need a backseat. I have a 5 year old little boy. Buying a used 7 series was an option.....$50k or so. However, as anal as it seems...I want the LED lights. That means I'd have to wait another 3 years and by then the new 7 will be coming out....so the 7 series is kinda out.

I was thinking the Benz E class.....but they are doing some major LCI changing for the 2014.....so there is no use buying an EClass now. Panameras don't have enough power....not to mention they are a lot more than the competitors.

Lexus GS.....fugly. Lexus LS....haven't seen it in person....but looks ugly in pics. Audi.....the A7 doesn't do it for me...and they are dime a dozen. The A6 is the same way......A8 is decent but too old man's car compared to a F10 or CLS.

So.....550 vs CLS550. Thoughts? Both great cars....but I think if I bought one in the 50s....that there will still be several years until style is changed. I know cars change a lot....but I want the best bang for my buck.....to own the best car possible during a period it won't be majorly updated. CLS is still 2 years away from even a minor thing.....BMW could be LCI'ing the F10 for 2014 even....depending on how they are treated the 550GT in terms of whether 2010 or 2011 is initial f10 start year.
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      12-26-2012, 05:23 PM   #8
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Go with CLS it has less technology, but much better ride netter materials quality and better look. And it's not 20K difference there's maybe 8k difference
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