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09-07-2010, 07:41 AM | #1 |
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Any UK F10 520d owners come across these guys?
Hi All,
This company seem to be one of the few that offer a remap for the F10 520d, has anyone in the UK come across them? It actually adds quite a bit more BHP and torque. (see link) http://fr-rtuning-shop.co.uk/index.p...productId=1330 It work out at about £330 with VAT, which is very reasonable. PDS |
09-07-2010, 04:27 PM | #3 |
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If you fit one, how does that affect the... - Warranty - Insurance, do I have to inform my Insurer, will my premium go up - Does this count as modification - What other impacts this will have Those who have modified their rides should know these best. Appreciate your guidance.
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09-07-2010, 05:40 PM | #4 |
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I'll be quite keen to know if anybody had remapped a 5 series before, and how it affected their warranty and performance, including mileage.
It wouldn't be a bad idea if they can enhance the performance by the numbers they have suggested in their website. |
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09-08-2010, 02:18 AM | #5 | |
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In the EU, the car also becomes illegal because the manufacturer gets an EU wide approval for the car that includes the emission levels. Any tampering with the car and it loses this approval. If you crash the car and the insurance company finds out about the remap you may get reduced or no compensation at all. Still many owners do remap their cars. Most after the warranty is gone though. |
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09-08-2010, 04:10 AM | #6 | |
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Having said that, I might eventually be tempted by a plug-in tuning box. These work by modifying the fuel pressure and turbo boost signals to the ECU, which then reacts accordingly by increasing both values. They are easily removable and, as far as I understand it, they leave no detectable electronic trace in the ECU; however, I willingly stand to be corrected on the latter point. Another consideration is that the easy remove option is, of course, dependent on access to the engine bay; a front-end collision could preclude that and I imagine, unless previously declared, you'd then find yourself without insurance. |
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09-08-2010, 06:05 AM | #7 | |
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I had a failure on a control arm for the turbo in my 120dM just after it went of warranty. BMW granted goodwill for most of the repair cost. |
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09-08-2010, 06:31 AM | #9 |
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09-10-2010, 09:03 AM | #10 |
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Bullshlt or not judge for yourselves. Spoke to a friend of a friend who works as the service head at a BMW dealership about a remap of my 523i.
1. He claims the difference in power between 523i and 528i is pure software. 2. On the E60 a remap would be found out if actively investigated by the dealer or BMW. In the course of a normal service the dealer wouldn't see it. 3. On the F10 if there has been a remap performed once the car is connected to the computers for service the evidence of the remap will show up immediately at the BMW Batman Cave in Munich even if the dealer doesn't see it. To me no. 3 sounds like a BS rumor spread by BMW to scare people away from tampering with their cars but hey, who knows? |
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09-10-2010, 09:26 AM | #11 | |
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Yet another reason for me to stay clear of re-maps whilst the warranty's still active. I reckon the sub 6 seconds 0-60 of my forthcoming 535d will be enough to be getting on with for a while |
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09-10-2010, 09:36 AM | #12 |
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What about tuning boxes, how could they tell you are completely bypassing the ECU and there is no evidence once removed?
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09-10-2010, 10:34 AM | #13 |
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Tuning boxes creates error messages in the ECU. The ECU also stores information about power output. So massive Nm that shouldn't be possible with the engine is stored.
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09-10-2010, 10:43 AM | #14 | |
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Like 'Gorban', I imagine that these settings will be logged in the memory. |
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09-10-2010, 03:54 PM | #16 | |
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If you think about it from BMW's pint of view, it's perfectly understandable for them to utilise any software to counter warranty claims resulting from unapproved engine modifications. Annoying nonetheless, but a sign of the times - 'Big Brother' is well and truly with us. |
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09-11-2010, 12:05 PM | #17 |
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Has anyone actually cracked the code on the latest version of the N47 (520d, as in the F10/11) engine?
BTW, the connection back to Germany is on the cards, if not already in progress, from what I have read. Read the trade press and the car makers have had enough of engine tuning in warranty periods and are working harder to detect on any connection, at service scope for example. HighlandPete |
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