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      06-10-2011, 05:30 PM   #1
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Lightbulb *REVIEW* KW Coilovers- Variant 3 (V3) for F10 5 series

I finally came around and set some time aside, to deliver my personal review for the KW Coilovers- Variant 3 for our BMW 5 series F10.

Initially, my interest in the KW’s was only to attain the height drop that H&R springs couldn't deliver for my F10. However, I quickly found out that KWs are so much more than just a solution for a lower stance on your vehicle. I drove my F10 long enough on stock suspension, too long on H&R sport springs, and gave myself enough time to experience the KWs to be able to share my first impressions and lasting impressions on them.

Stock F10 Suspension ( Non DHP/Adaptive drive)

Most, if not all of us know what the stock suspension on the F10 feels like, unless you modified your suspension on day 1. The feeling of the stock suspension on the F10 is like a floaty boat ride which makes you feel alienated from the road. Tight cornering on my F10 with stock suspension was not pleasant, as the body roll was enough to throw my wife and I from side to side like we were doing the chicken dance. The floatiness and loose feel of the car, combined with the altitude at which my F10 stood consequently led me to swap out stock springs for H&R sport springs in hope of improved ride quality.

H&R Springs

H&R sport springs definitely helped make the F10 feel more planted, and cosmetically improved the F10’s look by lowering it a little over an inch overall. However, I was not completely satisfied with the springs for although the floatiness improved, it still remained, especially on the freeway and at higher speeds. The ride on the H&R springs was still jumpy and took a few seconds to settle back down after going through a dip . Cornering on H&R springs was definitely better than stock, although body roll still lingered enough to be very noticeable and uncomfortable when spirited driving took place. The height drop was acceptable from the H&Rs considering the price, and the ride was ok aside from the floatiness at high speeds and the lag in stabilization after a significant dip. H&Rs still left me expecting more from my BMW F10, which led me to decide on making the best investment I’ve made on my F10 as of yet. KW Coilovers.

KW Coilovers V3

The day I drove back to San Diego from Trinity Autosport after installing the KW V3’s on my F10, I simply felt like I was driving a completely different vehicle (from a ride quality stand point). My car felt planted to the ground and feedback from the road was drastically improved. Taking turns at 80mph felt like turning at 25mph, total comfortably, completely stable, and connected to the road. Going over dips where the springs compress and decompress, the car stabilized itself in a matter of milliseconds compared to H&R springs and stock where you are kept floating up and down until stable. Nose diving when braking quickly and hard was gone, the car comes to complete clean stops without jerking you or your passengers forward.

I would mention any downsides to the KWs, but IMO, there aren’t any.

I am currently dialed in at factory out of the box settings and have not played with the dampening or compression. I am very satisfied with the feel of the car and enjoy every moment driving the F10. Everything I tried to improve with H&R springs and couldn’t attain has now been completed with KW coilovers, which are definitely worth every penny.

KW coilovers are not for the faint of heart and if you don’t really care about performance, stability and complete versatility of the ride and height of your vehicle, than I would say springs or stock suspension would do you just fine.

However, If your’e looking for an aggressive suspension that TRULY performs, drastically improves the quality of your ride, totally enhances the look of your F10, and can be adjusted to the height of your liking, then KW coilovers were made just for you.



Here's a video I made showing off a few F10's on KW V3's





Stock Suspension Pictures





H&R Springs Pictures





KW Coilovers V3 Install @ Trinity Autosport (Thanks Joe and Nerwyll)





KW V3 Suspension Pictures




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      06-10-2011, 05:47 PM   #2
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Great write-up.

I bought KW V2 for my e90 after reading good things about them on e90post back in 2007, and I buy KW again.

And cool video btw!!

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Absolutely A+ for the write-up.

I am sold on this but have to wait for the Xdrive version to come out. My shop guy says KW is still doing final stage testing now and production should begin late summer and ready for market distribution in the late fall.
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Great write-up.

I bought KW V2 for my e90 after reading good things about them on e90post back in 2007, and I buy KW again.

And cool video btw!!
Thank you Remmib!!! It's hard to go back after experiencing coilovers.

KW FTW !!!
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Absolutely A+ for the write-up.

I am sold on this but have to wait for the Xdrive version to come out. My shop guy says KW is still doing final stage testing now and production should begin late summer and ready for market distribution in the late fall.
Thank you Bobblehead. Can't go wrong with KW. Do you have a 535 xdrive or 550?

I don't think KW has anything for the 550 yet.
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I have 550. But the xdrive version of KW V3 is applicable to 535 as well.

Actually, KW does have one available for RWD 550 (according to their website) and some of the online vendors here even suggested the RWD version of the V3 will fit the Xdrive model without any problem at all. Only Sonic Motorsport confirmed that was not the case.
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Great write up Lui!

KW is the only way to go for the F10
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Great write up my only negative is on the sport you lose all control of the settings for chassis and engine. Dampening is only one out of three electronically controlled components of the msport suspension package.

Since dampening isn't electronically controlled with kw v3 kit I cannot use the engine response setting nor the active body roll controls.

This is an issue as I plan on hitting the track later this summer and with kw selling a product claiming to fix this is ridiculous.

I cannot turn off DSC, or enter any of the chassis controls. You can engage these features from a stop but if you pass 30 mph you go back into default normal mode.

Granted if you aren't going to track with the f10 then luigi hit this review perfectly.

The kw v3 makes this car more enjoyable and more like what the 5 series and BMW driving experience ought to be from the factory.

Again great write up luigi!
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Great write up my only negative is on the sport you lose all control of the settings for chassis and engine. Dampening is only one out of three electronically controlled components of the msport suspension package.

Since dampening isn't electronically controlled with kw v3 kit I cannot use the engine response setting nor the active body roll controls.

This is an issue as I plan on hitting the track later this summer and with kw selling a product claiming to fix this is ridiculous.

I cannot turn off DSC, or enter any of the chassis controls. You can engage these features from a stop but if you pass 30 mph you go back into default normal mode.

Granted if you aren't going to track with the f10 then luigi hit this review perfectly.

The kw v3 makes this car more enjoyable and more like what the 5 series and BMW driving experience ought to be from the factory.

Again great write up luigi!
Tracking the F10
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Thanks for the review and pics!
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Great review and great video Lui.

Would you mind to share your setting like height and stiffness? Both are default box settings?

The sport button settings for chassis cannot work anymore? I believed changing the suspension to V3 wouldn't cause any error code. Let me know if I'm wrong?

Again, awesome review!!
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Great review and great video Lui.

Would you mind to share your setting like height and stiffness? Both are default box settings?

The sport button settings for chassis cannot work anymore? I believed changing the suspension to V3 wouldn't cause any error code. Let me know if I'm wrong?

Again, awesome review!!
ICIC,

Unfortunately the KW V3 does eliminate the sensors and control box on the oem shock bodies. They say online they have a device that can be ordered with the kit to alleviate this problem. But the last time I spoke to them they said it's not even released yet and they arent sure when they will release it. Its also comforting to know that they said they dont even have a planned date for ever releasing the fix.

Great business model showing consumers that there is something available when there really isnt!
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love that video bro! hahahahhaha get slammed!
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Great write up my only negative is on the sport you lose all control of the settings for chassis and engine. Dampening is only one out of three electronically controlled components of the msport suspension package.

Since dampening isn't electronically controlled with kw v3 kit I cannot use the engine response setting nor the active body roll controls.

This is an issue as I plan on hitting the track later this summer and with kw selling a product claiming to fix this is ridiculous.

I cannot turn off DSC, or enter any of the chassis controls. You can engage these features from a stop but if you pass 30 mph you go back into default normal mode.

Granted if you aren't going to track with the f10 then luigi hit this review perfectly.

The kw v3 makes this car more enjoyable and more like what the 5 series and BMW driving experience ought to be from the factory.

Again great write up luigi!
Thank you for your positive comments Jason. However I feel your pain in regards to losing the electronic controls of the DHP/Adaptive drive.

I unfortunately did not have DHP(dynamic handling package) nor Adaptive drive on my 528i, so I couldn't relate, but I can imagine how frustrating it may be to lose all those settings and not having a fix by KW.

Hopefully KW will do as they say and come out with the fix so you and others in your situation can regain all of the settings you lost as you installed the V3's.

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Great write up Lui!

KW is the only way to go for the F10
Thanks Kev!!

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Great review and great video Lui.

Would you mind to share your setting like height and stiffness? Both are default box settings?

The sport button settings for chassis cannot work anymore? I believed changing the suspension to V3 wouldn't cause any error code. Let me know if I'm wrong?

Again, awesome review!!
Thank you ICIC , I appreciate your kind words.

Yes, the coilovers were set at default out of the box settings. However , the height was adjusted just a tiny bit. My height was raised from the rear because my wheel offset was a bit too aggressive and would rub if I left it at the out of the box height settings , which apparently were a bit too low for my wheel setup.

I did not have DHP/Adaptive drive on my 528i, but as Jason Aka Jaekeem stated, you lose the settings if you install KW coilovers at this time.

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Get slammed or get canned !!
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Great photos!

The KW's are a great look for the F10, especially with some nice MORR 20" VS8.2's
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what kind of wheels are on the KW3 F10? Rotiform?
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The wheels on the F10 are FORGED 1 - SEVEN MESH.
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great lowering!!!1 whats specs of wheels and tires?
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Forged 1 Seven Mesh
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Forged 1 Seven Mesh
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Wheels circumference quite a bit larger than stock size. Any issues?
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tnx, and offsets?
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Wheels circumference quite a bit larger than stock size. Any issues?
Not really, only about 1%.
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