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05-30-2010, 01:41 PM | #45 | |
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I drove an F10 550i with the sport package/dynamic handling package on Friday, and while I couldn't go driving any twisting canyon roads, it does not seem have the edge as my current 550i M Sport. Certainly more comfortable in daily L.A. traffic with our increasingly rutted and broken roadways! |
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I think its important to look at the location of the poster when the conversation is M-sport.
With that said, from what I am reading, the M-sport in UK traditionally has its own suspension whereas in the States it does not. So the handling/performance upgrades are probably required to select the M-sport package in the States. In the UK they are not required because like I said above its has its own tuned suspension. (Please correct me if I am wrong) I think going forward we may see that change which is why I am interested in seeing the stated package contents on the UK M-sport.
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The UK (and Europe) gets M-Sport suspension included in the M-Sport package/model (this has been the way for many many years/models and normally 6 month after the initial car launch). The exception is the 7 Series - the M-Sport model have VDC instead. M-Sport is not tuned solely for the UK but likely to be the same globally! Option 704, the standalone M-Sport suspension (without any cosmetic additions) is already available in many European counties (but not the UK or US) and drivers have posted on this board, scan this thread (for posters from Sweden and The Netherlands) ...
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368952 M-Sport is different to Sport suspension. Sport suspension has lowered springs and nothing else! M-Sport suspension has lowered springs, specific dampers/shocks and different rubber bushing. Seems for the F10, BMW is no longer offering the simpler Sport suspension option - I think VDC replaces this without any lowering. In the UK (and it seems the US) option 704 will only be available when combined with the full M-Sport Package/model (all the cosmetics). Also see this post http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379338 I think this should be good news for you US chaps, it means you will get M-Sport suspension sooner instead of years later as on the E60 (did Scott26 say some where, December for US and September for UK). In short the UK and US marketing bods are holding option 704 back until BMW launch the full M-Sport package (cosmetics). In summary there are three suspension options, normal (soft), VDC (adjustable ride) and M-Sport (lowered and optimised sport). Only M-Sport is lowered, has better dampers and bushing to suit a sportier drive. I for one do not want VDC and other trick chassis add-ons give me M-Sport. Finally, you cannot mix VDC or Adpative Drive (roll bars) with M-Sport suspension - why mess with perfection!
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you must have streets of gold in UK, as for most of Europe the streets resemble the bronx queens expressway (BQE for you fellow native NY'ers) and the M-sport suspension feels like a jack hammer to the arse. I for one enjoy that BMW has enabled me to adjust the ride as I see fit from typical roads (softer) to high speed autobahn (sport).
That my friend is BMW engineering genius finally delivered! In the end its all relative, perfection is an individual concept. With a boot full to the brim and a wife and 3 kids in the back seat what the hell is perfect about an M-sport? Conversely, someone such as yourself who spends probably lots of time on a track or at very high speeds, the M-sport is a no brainer, you should get it! The perfection is that BMW can allow both of us to get what we will use.
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UK roads can be very rough in places and yes M-Sport becomes too hard. However other posts here suggest the F10 M-Sport is better riding than the E60 M-Sport. Once off UK motorways we have fast twisty roads with frequent camber changes and this is where M-Sport is better - the car is more tied down. I also like the slightly lowered look. I could not live with the VDC ride height. I also prefer one setting and no fiddling. BTW - If you want the M-Sport cosmetics, it may be possible to delete option 704 form the full M-Sport package/model and add VDC but it will sit higher (as per standard cars)
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IMO the F10 will the two normal suspensions sits too high. It is even higher than the E60.
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Brits and Americans cannot order the M-Sport suspension so we cannot compare!
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I understand the VDC equipped cars run 10mm lower than the standard car. As I see it, won't be far off any standard M-sport setting.
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Wow thats big news to me, Pete are you sure? Surely its the Springs that determine ride height not the Dampers?
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I've driven my 535i with 19" GoodYear Excellence RFT's and 704 Sportssuspension for a week now with bad roadconditions as well and as I recall it feels like the sportsetting on the aforementioned 530d. So more or less to my likings and still comfy imo. Very good tyre/wheel/chassis combo. Cheers Robin Last edited by Robin_NL; 06-15-2010 at 07:02 AM.. |
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So I don't think so.... Cheers Robin |
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I am glad I ordered my 550i with lots of options except the Active Drive.....
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hi, if you don't kind my asking, can you pls let me know whether you've tested two f10s with the same engine, one with VDC (sport mode) and one with M sport suspension and you find the one with VDC more reactive/more responsive?
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06-19-2010, 03:27 AM | #63 |
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New F11 and old F10 M-Sport pics at this link
http://www.motorauthority.com/pictur...ry-1#100314473 BTW - There will be an F11 M-Sport at the UK Goodwood car show this month!
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