[SocalBM]

I bought a 2014 specifically for the bigger engine (did I actually get it? Hmmm....) and the suspension. Looked at the car last night and my build date is 08/13. Just a little upset.

[metrathon]

I have a full-optioned 2014 550i M-Sport parking next to me everyday. It sits so high, looks like a freakin' AWD. The wheel gaps are ridiculous. My 530i E60 was super-sleek, low and mean.

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

I bought a 2014 specifically for the bigger engine (did I actually get it? Hmmm....) and the suspension. Looked at the car last night and my build date is 08/13. Just a little upset.

That sucks. They started adding the M Sport suspension on 8/19. Double check on your window sticker to see if it states "MSport Suspension".
Or go to http://www.bmwarchiv.de/vin/bmw-vin-decoder.html
Enter the last 7 characters of your VIN and it will display all the features installed on your car. Scroll down to the S700 range and see if it has S704.
If not, open a case with BMW and get some money back.

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by metrathon

I have a full-optioned 2014 550i M-Sport parking next to me everyday. It sits so high, looks like a freakin' AWD. The wheel gaps are ridiculous. My 530i E60 was super-sleek, low and mean.

The car is heavier now and they've decided to give it a softer ride which means more suspension travel and bigger wheel gaps. The one parked next to you probably didn't get the MSport suspension. The rear wheel gap on the non-MSport is 3 fingers where the MSport is 2 1/2 fingers, or 3/8" lower.
I feel that a tight two finger gap looks best on the stock 19" rims.

[Vinfast]

My '14 550i M-Sport sits and rides just perfect with the M-sport suspension. The build date is either the end of August or the 1st of September. I can't find the build date, but it's the M-Sport suspension is on the window sticker. I couldn't be happier with this suspension over the Adaptive Drive on my '11 550i M-Sport.

[SonicEndeavor]

^^ 20" rims?

[Vinfast]

yes!!

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by Vinfast

yes!!

Looks perfect! The 20's remove that extra half inch of wheel gap vs. the 19's.
You can find your build date here if you're interested.
http://www.bmwarchiv.de/vin/bmw-vin-decoder.html

[Vinfast]

Thanks. The wheel gap is still the same as the 19s. It just appears smaller because the wheel is bigger. I measured it with both.

Thanks for the link --- it shows 9/2/13.

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by Vinfast

Thanks. The wheel gap is still the same as the 19s. It just appears smaller because the wheel is bigger. I measured it with both.

Thanks for the link --- it shows 9/2/13.

Did you stick with OEM M5 Tire sizes?

I upgraded my stock 19" 351M wheels to 20" 343M wheels, including OEM M5 tires, and since the OD of the wheel is approximately .500" larger, you gain a about a .250" ride height and a .250" arch gap reduction on average between the front and rear wheels:

Here is the Tale of the Tape:

Before:

F10 535i M-Sport 19" M Double Spoke Style 351M Cast Wheel Set

• Front Wheels - 8.5JX19 ET:33 - 245/40R19 - 14,53 kg
• Rear Wheels - 9JX19 ET:44 - 275/35R19 - 14,51 kg

After:

F10 M5 20" M Double Spoke Style 343M Forged Wheel Set

• Front Wheels - 9JX20 ET:34 - 265/35R20 - 11,20 kg
• Rear Wheels - 10JX20 ET:34 - 295/30R20 - 11,70 kg

Delta:

• 19" to 20"
• Cast to Forged
• Total Weight reduction of 12.28 kg (27.07 lbs.)
  • Front Weight Reduction 3.33 kg (7.34 lbs.) per wheel
  • Rear Weight Reduction 2.81 kg (6.20 lbs.) per wheel
• Fronts 0.5" Increased Width
• Rears 1.0" Increased Width
• Fronts 5.4 mm (.231") extension (Spacer Equivalent)
• Rears 22.7 mm (.894") extension (Spacer Equivalent)
• Front Increased diameter of 14.9 mm (.587")
  • Ride Height Gain 7.45 mm (.293")
  • Arch Gap Loss 7.45 mm (.293")
• Rear Increased diameter of 9.9 mm (.390")
  • Ride Height Gain 4.95 mm (.195")
  • Arch Gap Loss 4.95 mm (.195")
• Silver to Polished Finish

FRONT:



REAR:

[SonicEndeavor]

^^ Wow, great info Shawn. And I thought *I* was detail oriented.
But yes, without suspension modification or very low profile tires, there has to be a smaller gap when moving from 19's to 20's due to the extra 1/2" radius.

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

^^ Wow, great info Shawn. And I thought *I* was detail oriented.
But yes, without suspension modification or very low profile tires, there has to be a smaller gap when moving from 19's to 20's due to the extra 1/2" radius.

I am a tad OCD...

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

That sucks. They started adding the M Sport suspension on 8/19. Double check on your window sticker to see if it states "MSport Suspension".
Or go to http://www.bmwarchiv.de/vin/bmw-vin-decoder.html
Enter the last 7 characters of your VIN and it will display all the features installed on your car. Scroll down to the S700 range and see if it has S704.
If not, open a case with BMW and get some money back.

Thanks for the heads-up man, appreciate it.

Checked that link: car was made the second day of August and has no S704. Someone at my dealership is about to get an ear-full.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by Vinfast

Thanks. The wheel gap is still the same as the 19s. It just appears smaller because the wheel is bigger. I measured it with both.

Thanks for the link --- it shows 9/2/13.

Often it actually appears bigger since the tire wall gets smaller.

[Vinfast]

My wheel gap is the same because I don't have the OEM M5 wheels. I have the Avant Garde 355 wheels which are 10.5" on the rear. I went with 255/35 in the front and 285/30 in the rear. I tried the 295/30, but it would hit the fender on big dips because the 1/2" extra width in the rear.

[613Bimmer]

+1

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Thanks for the heads-up man, appreciate it.

Checked that link: car was made the second day of August and has no S704. Someone at my dealership is about to get an ear-full.

Sorry to hear that. BMWNA really made a mess with this poor decision. Did you order the car, or buy it off the lot? I've been through the process so feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions. Best of luck with your negotiations.

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

Sorry to hear that. BMWNA really made a mess with this poor decision. Did you order the car, or buy it off the lot? I've been through the process so feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions. Best of luck with your negotiations.

Wasn't interested in waiting several months on an order, so the car was shipped in, which meant I couldn't check the build date prior; but, if I'm perfectly honest, I don't know if I have much of a case against this dealership. I stated why I wanted a 2014 to the salesman, but that's about it. They could simply say "piss off".

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Wasn't interested in waiting several months on an order, so the car was shipped in, which meant I couldn't check the build date prior; but, if I'm perfectly honest, I don't know if I have much of a case against this dealership. I stated why I wanted a 2014 to the salesman, but that's about it. They could simply say "piss off".

The Dealer may not be able to help, but BMWNA has a policy to deal with these cars, so if you open a case with them you should be able to get some money back. Their base offer is $390, but politely decline that offer and they'll send your case to your local field rep.

[Empiremotorsports]

im in!

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

The Dealer may not be able to help, but BMWNA has a policy to deal with these cars, so if you open a case with them you should be able to get some money back. Their base offer is $390, but politely decline that offer and they'll send your case to your local field rep.

As expected, the rep at my dealership completely blew me off with just a little bit of condescension. Trying to figure out the next step to take it up the line.

[SonicEndeavor]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

As expected, the rep at my dealership completely blew me off with just a little bit of condescension. Trying to figure out the next step to take it up the line.

Yeah, buyer beware, right? It was worth a shot. Fortunately my Dealer maintained a very helpful attitude throughout the ordeal, but ultimately the bean counters at BMW USA dictated the policy.
Head over to bmwusa.com and open a case with customer service.
https://www.bmwusa.com/Secured/Conte...ctaBMWRep.aspx

If you have any evidence captured from the website when it incorrectly stated MSport suspension, or the order guide stating the 704 would be deleted when ordering DHP, I would present that to them as well.