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      04-10-2013, 05:31 PM   #45
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I've left Jerry two messages and have not heard back. Not sure if that's an early sign related to their customer service.
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      04-10-2013, 08:14 PM   #46
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I've left Jerry two messages and have not heard back. Not sure if that's an early sign related to their customer service.
I've always had great customer service from them. I'll message Jerry and have him get back to you.
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      04-11-2013, 07:10 AM   #47
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I guess we have enough people so performance details, pricing/discount and flashing procedure should be here now so those who are interested can place the order.
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I guess we have enough people so performance details, pricing/discount and flashing procedure should be here now so those who are interested can place the order.
Jerry is finalizing some things on the dyno and will have dyno sheets for us by Monday. Also, I spoke with him last night and he's been very busy on the dyno, so he hasn't had a chance to return everyones messages, but he said he would by friday. With regards to pricing, it is $400 for either tune if we can get 15 people total.
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      04-11-2013, 10:32 AM   #49
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Thanks for the update.

This might be a dumb question, but why have some tuners like EC, OE, and some others been able to develop tunes for the F10 but others like Dinan and Cobb have not been able to "crack the DME"? Are all non-piggyback tuners not alike?
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      04-11-2013, 11:31 AM   #50
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Thanks for the update.

This might be a dumb question, but why have some tuners like EC, OE, and some others been able to develop tunes for the F10 but others like Dinan and Cobb have not been able to "crack the DME"? Are all non-piggyback tuners not alike?
They are but they develop to different standards than your average tuner as far as safety and reliability of their tunes. For instance, Dinan has to make their tunes conservative enough so that the car will last through the duration of the warranty they offer. All of this takes additional time.
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      04-12-2013, 06:14 AM   #51
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We had a member drop his car off yesterday and is picking it up today with a tune. I look forward to hearing what he has to say about the results.
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We had a member drop his car off yesterday and is picking it up today with a tune. I look forward to hearing what he has to say about the results.
Awesome. Did he get it for $400? Do we have 15 now?
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Awesome. Did he get it for $400? Do we have 15 now?
We are around 10-11 currently. Not sure on price, but I'm sure Jerry honored the $400. I've asked him to post his experience, good or bad, here when he picks his car up today.
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Just emailed Jerry a few of the common questions I've been seeing on this thread.

1) Can you tune both the 535i and 550i remotely? Will you have to mail a laptop and cable to each person, or will just a cable work? – Yes, remotely for both. We will need to send a laptop to each person.



2) Will you need to reflash the car before taking it to a BMW dealer? If so, do you still reinstall tunes for free? – This is 100% up to the owner of the car. I suggest reflashing the car to stock before taking it to the dealer. Retunes will not be free and will be $125.



3) Are tunes for additional mods free? – No, $125. This is to cover our time and shipping costs on the laptop.



4) Can you tune RWD and xDrive cars? - Yes



5) Is their a programmable handheld tuner like the one you have for MB engines? - No sir



6) Can you adjust the tune for different octane levels? – Yes, of course!
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3) Are tunes for additional mods free? – No, $125. This is to cover our time and shipping costs on the laptop.
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I am not thrilled about the $125 a pop retune fee. Can you ask him if this cost is the same for locals who bring their car in?
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Just emailed Jerry a few of the common questions I've been seeing on this thread.

1) Can you tune both the 535i and 550i remotely? Will you have to mail a laptop and cable to each person, or will just a cable work? Yes, remotely for both. We will need to send a laptop to each person.



2) Will you need to reflash the car before taking it to a BMW dealer? If so, do you still reinstall tunes for free? This is 100% up to the owner of the car. I suggest reflashing the car to stock before taking it to the dealer. Retunes will not be free and will be $125.



3) Are tunes for additional mods free? No, $125. This is to cover our time and shipping costs on the laptop.



4) Can you tune RWD and xDrive cars? - Yes



5) Is their a programmable handheld tuner like the one you have for MB engines? - No sir



6) Can you adjust the tune for different octane levels? Yes, of course!
I am no thrilled about the $125 a pop retune fee. Can you ask him if this cost is the same for locals who bring their car in?
And is it 125 to reflash to stock and then retune or is it 125 each?
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      04-12-2013, 12:27 PM   #57
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$125 total for a reflash to stock and a tune reinstall. I'd assume it would be cheaper if local bc they wouldn't have to ship their computer.
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Ryan.. Can you find out if we can copy the program on to our own laptops so we can just manage the reloads ourselfs..

Thanks Again for leading this thread!
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I'll ask, but I dont think that is possible because of the proprietary software EC uses.
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We had a member drop his car off yesterday and is picking it up today with a tune. I look forward to hearing what he has to say about the results.
please keep us posted with the performance results. I'd love to know if the tune also gets rid of the lag and if it noticeably improves the acceleration?
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I'm surprised that EC is willing to mail out their laptops for people who want to tune remotely. Seems like they're taking a risk. Perhaps it's a good sign of customer service and their wanting to accommodate people who don't want to remove/mail in ECU.
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I'm surprised that EC is willing to mail out their laptops for people who want to tune remotely. Seems like they're taking a risk. Perhaps it's a good sign of customer service and their wanting to accommodate people who don't want to remove/mail in ECU.
That's exactly it. They have excellent customer service, but I'm sure there's a clause that we are responsible for any damage to the laptops as well.
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Yeah but they're still taking a risk with the time and hassle of claiming the loss. Plus there's always a risk of someone stealing their proprietary software.

to them for being accommodating. Can't wait to see the numbers.
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I'll ask, but I dont think that is possible because of the proprietary software EC uses.
I was hoping the program had our Original Code and then the New Code and we could just export/import as needed. We'll see how that plays out..
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Sorry guys but we'll have to wait another few days for the dyno numbers. I dropped my car off yesterday and Jerry was supposed to tune it today. After the first dyno pull this morning the dyno was not working properly so Jerry spent the next hour trouble shooting with DynoDynamics, turns out one of the control boards was faulty. Ordered a new board on the spot but wont be here till Tuesday cause its being shipped from Australia. I'll take the car back next week. I didn't want to go forward without a working dyno so we'll have to wait a few days. Excellent guy to deal with though, I'll be back there as soon as the dyno is up and running.
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Sorry guys but we'll have to wait another few days for the dyno numbers. I dropped my car off yesterday and Jerry was supposed to tune it today. After the first dyno pull this morning the dyno was not working properly so Jerry spent the next hour trouble shooting with DynoDynamics, turns out one of the control boards was faulty. Ordered a new board on the spot but wont be here till Tuesday cause its being shipped from Australia. I'll take the car back next week. I didn't want to go forward without a working dyno so we'll have to wait a few days. Excellent guy to deal with though, I'll be back there as soon as the dyno is up and running.
Very helpful. Thanks for the update.
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