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      04-23-2013, 11:27 AM   #1
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All Aluminium body of audi....Is it all good?

I am in the market for a family sedan and have been cross shopping audi s6vs a bmw 535/550xi.The weight of the BMW's and the accompanying tire/rim problems seem to be something of concern as the closest service center is 2 hrs away from my place.


I was almost convinced about giving audi a try when i cam across this thread on audiworld.

I still cant imagine how the aluminum body just tore apart like a peice of paper after just a fender bender.Is aluminum body strong enough to tolerate a real collision?I mean ..I think it might be still safe with all those airbags etc... but i have a feeling they might get totaled way more easily...Any thoughts?

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthre...2846017&page=2

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I was in an accident with me 97 E39, car was totaled, the ugly kind of totaled. IMO..If the car didn't tear apart like that, in a real collision the energy of the impact may end up in your or a passengers' lap. The S6 is sexy, but for the money I would say pick up a '11 of '12 CPO E60 M5. That thing is a tank.
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Aluminum ... I worry about that every time I travel by airplane!

Seriously, it's not as if you'd be driving a pie plate ... Besides, many of the suspension and body parts on the F10 are also aluminum (or plastic / reinforced non-metallic materials).

More and more lighter, high strength materials are finding their way into cars ... first appearing in high-end models like A8's, etc.
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I was in an accident with me 97 E39, car was totaled, the ugly kind of totaled. IMO..If the car didn't tear apart like that, in a real collision the energy of the impact may end up in your or a passengers' lap. The S6 is sexy, but for the money I would say pick up a '11 of '12 CPO E60 M5. That thing is a tank.
I thought M's can't be CPO?
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Exclamation CPO M's

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I thought M's can't be CPO?
Nope ... just fewer of them out there!

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...lSearchRD.aspx
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my brother has a e39 m5 and when I opened the door to it I was like man they don't make cars like this anymore...compared to the f10 it was so heavy i loved it the f10 doors are like cardboard lol
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Aluminum has many virtues however damage to a body panel means that the panel has to be replaced when damaged making body work more expensive.
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Every time I come across someone talk about E39... I keep wondering where did that BMW Brand go.Those cars are still loved today...and BMW seems to be hell bent to move away from that philosophy each year.

Coming back to the discussion on hand...how is audi's quality compared to BMW.I ask this as I haven't had any experience with audi in the past .But I keep hearing [random] that audi's built quality sucks compared to BMW.I certainly don't want to start an argument here...just looking for some first hand experience.
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Every time I come across someone talk about E39... I keep wondering where did that BMW Brand go.Those cars are still loved today...and BMW seems to be hell bent to move away from that philosophy each year.

Coming back to the discussion on hand...how is audi's quality compared to BMW.I ask this as I haven't had any experience with audi in the past .But I keep hearing [random] that audi's built quality sucks compared to BMW.I certainly don't want to start an argument here...just looking for some first hand experience.
I had few Audis in the past, last one being S4. I think Audi design is more subtle, BMW has more baroque feeling to it. As far as materials go, I looked at the F30 before I got F10 and to my surprise a 2010 B8 S4 still felt more plush and luxurious inside than a brand new, just released 3 series product. When I test drove A6 my impression was completely different, it’s still a nice premium car, and as much as I like simplicity the A6 interior just felt “simple poor” compared to F10. When it comes to build quality (contrary to the general consensus) I never had any squeaking/cracking or otherwise noisy Audi interior; my F10 driver’s seat though squeaks on sharp turns.

Whether its Audi or BMW, in this price bracket, we are talking small nuances that may sway you one way or the other. Methinks, test drive Audi (if you haven’t done so already) if you like the car and it feels solid to you, then that’s your new ride. Years from now, whether a bimmer or a vag they can be just as squeaky.

Good luck with your choice!
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Every time I come across someone talk about E39... I keep wondering where did that BMW Brand go.Those cars are still loved today...and BMW seems to be hell bent to move away from that philosophy each year.

Coming back to the discussion on hand...how is audi's quality compared to BMW.I ask this as I haven't had any experience with audi in the past .But I keep hearing [random] that audi's built quality sucks compared to BMW.I certainly don't want to start an argument here...just looking for some first hand experience.
Re the E39, I think it just built to a very high standard. It felt solid, it drove very well (Ultimate driving machine really rings true).I had a E39 530i msport from new for 10 years and if that was the only car i could have had for the rest of my life, I would not have been disappointed. I'd have hung onto mine if I had the space when I got my F10 but alas I don't.
goingback to the original thread and aluminuim. I know what yuou mean about the doors. As they are mostly aluminuim, they are lighter for teh same strength but it doesn't have that bank vault door like fee like the E39 even if it achieves the same result.
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Take a look at www.wreckedexotics.com and look at the cars after the accidents to see whats left of them...you can look at all the Audi models as well as the BMWs. If you look at enough of the photos, you may be able to notice similarities.
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my brother has a e39 m5 and when I opened the door to it I was like man they don't make cars like this anymore...compared to the f10 it was so heavy i loved it the f10 doors are like cardboard lol
The F10 doors are actually extremely strong. Much stronger than the E39 5-Series'. Nowadays when I pull or push a door that's heavier, it feels so "clunky", "old", etc. The F10's door being so light WHILE being so strong just feels advanced to me. Of course there are cars who's doors are light BECAUSE they're weak, which is a whole different story.

Oddly enough, the F10 is still a heavy beast after all this, lol.
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