Staggered Set Up

OH535 · 01-15-2015, 09:19 PM

Can I run staggered m sport 351 wheels on my 535i xdrive? Right now have a square set up.

SpeedBuggy · 01-15-2015, 10:07 PM

535xi with M Sport gets the 351m so it should fit.

Make sure to keep the rolling diameter of the tires between front and rear to less than 1%. To much difference will play havoc with the front diff.

You will also need to go to a smaller series on the rear (i.e.35 rears versus 40 on front).

According to BMW,the 351M
19 x 8.5 et33 with 245/40R19 Fronts
19 x 9 et44 with 275/35R19 Rears

Equals 0.518% difference in rolling diameter

RMcoolX · 01-22-2015, 10:50 PM

I went from a squared stock 17" setup to staggered 19s, using the stock 535i M-Sport wheel and tire sizes. No problems to report.

valbmw · 01-22-2015, 11:07 PM

Yes you can. Let me give you a good example: the xDrive M Sport models in Europe come with staggered wheel sets. Mine was with the OEM 18" 350M and 245-275 Continental RFT
8JX18 ET:30, Part nr. 36 11 7 842 650
9JX18 ET:44, Part nr. 36 11 7 842 651
Now I keep these factory 18" rims for winter and got the aftermarket 20" staggered for summer, with 245/35 and 285/30 Michelin PSS.

SoDigito · 01-23-2015, 09:11 AM

Also running staggered setup on my 535xi. All of the above replies are correct. Lots of other threads on the topic.

fmohajer · 04-24-2015, 12:44 AM

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I did a TON of research on this... unless you want to ruin your xDrive and void the warranty I would NOT do it... I called BMW NA and had a long talk about it with them... they had an engineer get involved... NO was the final answer

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Originally Posted by OH535

Can I run staggered m sport 351 wheels on my 535i xdrive? Right now have a square set up.

valbmw · 04-24-2015, 02:01 AM

F10N 535iX BMW LA wheel, M double spoke 351 - 19'' as an example

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F10N 535iX Summer tyres F 245/40/19 R 275/35/19 the rolling diameter must be the closest for xDrive (see tirerack.com)

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remmib · 04-24-2015, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmohajer

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I did a TON of research on this... unless you want to ruin your xDrive and void the warranty I would NOT do it... I called BMW NA and had a long talk about it with them... they had an engineer get involved... NO was the final answer

So why can you get F10 xDrive with a staggered 351M here?

SonicEndeavor · 04-24-2015, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmohajer

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! I did a TON of research on this... unless you want to ruin your xDrive and void the warranty I would NOT do it... I called BMW NA and had a long talk about it with them... they had an engineer get involved... NO was the final answer

Whoever you talked to didn't know what they're talking about because as shown above, a staggered setup is clearly available for xDrive. I just double checked this in the BMW ordering guide.

fmohajer · 04-28-2015, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

Whoever you talked to didn't know what they're talking about because as shown above, a staggered setup is clearly available for xDrive. I just double checked this in the BMW ordering guide.

Just one minor issue with the diagram above... It's TIRERACK.COM and NOT BMW NA. They're looking to sell you wheels and tires... Not approved by BMW...

remmib · 04-28-2015, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmohajer

Just one minor issue with the diagram above... It's TIRERACK.COM and NOT BMW NA. They're looking to sell you wheels and tires... Not approved by BMW...

It's not tirerack, it's realoem.com.

slownfast · 04-28-2015, 05:04 AM

which one is right or wrong? I have been using staggered set up for almost 2 years now. nothing happens

SonicEndeavor · 04-28-2015, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmohajer

Just one minor issue with the diagram above... It's TIRERACK.COM and NOT BMW NA. They're looking to sell you wheels and tires... Not approved by BMW...

As I stated, I verified the information on the BMW F10 order guide. Staggered setup is available from the factory.

fmohajer · 04-30-2015, 04:15 AM

Who wants to call BMW NA and get that in writing? ;-)

SonicEndeavor · 04-30-2015, 10:09 AM

It's already in writing in the official pricing guide. 245x8.5 fronts, 275x9 rears.

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lsturbointeg · 04-30-2015, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicEndeavor

It's already in writing in the official pricing guide. 245x8.5 fronts, 275x9 rears.

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That's a pretty solid confirmation there!

Jayphil · 05-02-2015, 07:07 AM

My dealership told me that some Xdrive depending and the year and order comes with Staggered setup... My did not and I feel bad for that...

So Staggered is approved by BMW....

ArneR. · 05-15-2015, 07:31 PM

My M550d xdrive comes staggered from factory. Would think the M department knew what they are doing?

GABMAN · 06-09-2015, 12:22 PM

I can also confirm much to my surprise that BMW are shipping F10 XDrive vehicles with staggered set up's , I just did an early termination of my lease yesterday on my 2012 Xdrive and went to see my new 2015 Xdrive at my dealer , the car is equipped with Micheline Run Flats in a staggered set up, both my previous 2011 RWD F10 and my current 2012 F10 Xdrive were square set ups and in those years only a square set up was being offered on X Drives.

Anyone have anything good to say about Michelin Run Flats ? I am hoping they are somewhat better than the Good Year LS2's that I have had. They better be because
Wheel & Tire insurance was $ 1800.00 on my 2012 and they now want $ 2600.00 on the 2015 so I plan to pass on the insurance . I have an extra set of 351's that I run my winters on so if something happens to my wheels , I will just start replacing them with my winter wheels if I have to.

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SpeedBuggy Comfortably Numb 578 Rep 654 Posts Drives: '18 x1/'13 X3/'06 330i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cortland, Ohio iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [0.00]	535xi with M Sport gets the 351m so it should fit. Make sure to keep the rolling diameter of the tires between front and rear to less than 1%. To much difference will play havoc with the front diff. You will also need to go to a smaller series on the rear (i.e.35 rears versus 40 on front). According to BMW,the 351M 19 x 8.5 et33 with 245/40R19 Fronts 19 x 9 et44 with 275/35R19 Rears Equals 0.518% difference in rolling diameter __________________ 06 e90 330i/Alpine White/Terra Dakota 13 F25 X3 xDrive 35i/Black Sapphire Metallic/Oyster Nevada 18 F48 X1 xDrive 28i/Black Sapphire Metallic/Black SensaTec Last edited by SpeedBuggy; 01-15-2015 at 10:22 PM..
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RMcoolX Private First Class 9 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2014 528i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	I went from a squared stock 17" setup to staggered 19s, using the stock 535i M-Sport wheel and tire sizes. No problems to report. __________________ 2014 X5 35i (w/N55 Stage 1 Tuner) 2012 C6 Vette (w/Supercharger)
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valbmw Lieutenant 94 Rep 413 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW F10 M5 CP 600 hp Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Moscow, Russia iTrader: (0)	Yes you can. Let me give you a good example: the xDrive M Sport models in Europe come with staggered wheel sets. Mine was with the OEM 18" 350M and 245-275 Continental RFT 8JX18 ET:30, Part nr. 36 11 7 842 650 9JX18 ET:44, Part nr. 36 11 7 842 651 Now I keep these factory 18" rims for winter and got the aftermarket 20" staggered for summer, with 245/35 and 285/30 Michelin PSS.
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SoDigito Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 273 Posts Drives: 16%E2%80%99 X6 / 10%E2%80%99 5 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Readington, NJ iTrader: (1)	Also running staggered setup on my 535xi. All of the above replies are correct. Lots of other threads on the topic.
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valbmw Lieutenant 94 Rep 413 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW F10 M5 CP 600 hp Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Moscow, Russia iTrader: (0)	F10N 535iX BMW LA wheel, M double spoke 351 - 19'' as an example F10N 535iX Summer tyres F 245/40/19 R 275/35/19 the rolling diameter must be the closest for xDrive (see tirerack.com)
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slownfast Lieutenant 44 Rep 540 Posts Drives: 2013 528i Xdrive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (0)	which one is right or wrong? I have been using staggered set up for almost 2 years now. nothing happens
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fmohajer Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Sapphire Black Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	Who wants to call BMW NA and get that in writing? ;-) __________________ Current: 2017 BMW 530i Retired: 2011 F10 535i xDrive Retired: 2013 F10 M5 Retired: 2008 Porsche Cayenne S Retired: 2007 Audi R8 V8
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SonicEndeavor Lieutenant 48 Rep 494 Posts Drives: 2014 535i MSport Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	It's already in writing in the official pricing guide. 245x8.5 fronts, 275x9 rears. .
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Jayphil Private First Class 63 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 535I xdrive 2011 (M-SPORT) Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	My dealership told me that some Xdrive depending and the year and order comes with Staggered setup... My did not and I feel bad for that... So Staggered is approved by BMW....
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ArneR. Private First Class 15 Rep 116 Posts Drives: F11 535d Touring Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Norway iTrader: (0)	My M550d xdrive comes staggered from factory. Would think the M department knew what they are doing?
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GABMAN Private 8 Rep 69 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 535XI Med. Blue Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montreal iTrader: (1)	I can also confirm much to my surprise that BMW are shipping F10 XDrive vehicles with staggered set up's , I just did an early termination of my lease yesterday on my 2012 Xdrive and went to see my new 2015 Xdrive at my dealer , the car is equipped with Micheline Run Flats in a staggered set up, both my previous 2011 RWD F10 and my current 2012 F10 Xdrive were square set ups and in those years only a square set up was being offered on X Drives. Anyone have anything good to say about Michelin Run Flats ? I am hoping they are somewhat better than the Good Year LS2's that I have had. They better be because Wheel & Tire insurance was $ 1800.00 on my 2012 and they now want $ 2600.00 on the 2015 so I plan to pass on the insurance . I have an extra set of 351's that I run my winters on so if something happens to my wheels , I will just start replacing them with my winter wheels if I have to. __________________ 2019 X5 40I Phytonic Blue/Cognac IN TRANSIT 2016 535XI Med Blue/Black Nappa, RETIRED 2015 535XI Carb.Black/Black RECALLED BY BMW 2012 535XI White/Black, MSport, RETIRED 2011 535I, GraphGrey/Oyster, RETIRED
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