Which F10 would YOU buy?

Senilsson · 06-22-2015, 06:01 AM

Hello!

This is my first thread on the forum and I'm just gone dive right into the action.

I sold my beloved Audi A5 last week and I've been hunting for a decent used F10 since then and there's two cars I'm looking at right now. And now I need your help deciding which one is the best for me!

Both of these cars are MY 2010 and has the 3.0 straight six petrol engine with automatic transmission!

The first one has 78000 km (48500 miles) on it and has three past owners.
Pros and cons for this car:
+ Is owned by and older man and seems very well maintained/clean.
+ Sport seats and shadowline looks good on the car.
- Doesn't have a lot of options, if I buy this I have to upgrade the speakers, get bluetooth etc.
- Doesn't come with winter tyres (which is a must here in Sweden)

Spec:
No. Description
1CB CO2 CONTENT

2AH ALLOY WHEELS TURBINE STY.329/MT

2PA LOCKING WHEEL BOLTS

205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT

255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

258 RUNFLAT TYRES

3AC TRAILER TOW HITCH

3AP WINDSCREEN WITH GREY SHADE BAND

302 ALARM SYSTEM

320 MODEL DESIGNATION, DELETION

423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR

428 WARNING TRIANGLE

431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D

464 SKIBAG

465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM

508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

522 XENON LIGHT

534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

698 AREA-CODE 2

704 M SPORT SUSPENSION

760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME

761 INDIVIDUAL SUN PROTECTION GLAZING

775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE

8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS

8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE

8SP COP CONTROL

8TF ACTIVE PROTECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS

8V2 STICKER NCAP NIED/DEAN/SCHWED

842 COLD CLIMATE VERSION

845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING

850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT

853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH

863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY

877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION

885 SWEDISH / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION

896 DAYTIME LIGHTS FUNCTION

999 ORDER CONTROL FIRST DEALER CARS

The other car has 95000 km (59000 miles) on it but only one owner(current)
Pros and cons:
+ Lots of options, bluetooth, HiFi-stereo, satnav, electric seats etc.
+ Winter tyres included
- Slightly more mileage.
- I get a feeling that it isn't in perfect condition (only one way to find out tho)
- Imported from Germany (Maybe not a bad thing)

Spec:
No. Description
1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES

1CB CO2 CONTENT

2DB ALLOY WHEELS STAR SPOKE 327

205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

223 DYNAMIC DAMPER CONTROL

230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT

255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

258 RUNFLAT TYRES

4CE FINE-WOOD TRIM FINELINE ANTHRACITE

403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC

423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR

428 WARNING TRIANGLE

431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D

441 SMOKERS PACKAGE

459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY

465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING

502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM

508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

522 XENON LIGHT

524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS

534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

6AA BMW TELESERVICES

6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES

6FL USB-/AUDIO INTERFACE

609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL

612 BMW ASSIST

614 INTERNET PREPARATION

615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION

616 BMW ONLINE

620 VOICE INPUT SYSTEM

633 PREP.MOB. PH. BUSINESS BLUET.INTERF.

676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

698 AREA-CODE 2

7SP NAVI PROFESSINAL W.HANDYPREP.BLUETOOTH

8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS

8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE

8TF ACTIVE PROTECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS

8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO

8V1 NCAP LABEL

801 GERMANY VERSION

863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY

879 GERMAN / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION

Please consider that no matter which car I buy WILL get the 19" 351m wheels and M-sport exterior package.

I'm going to buy one of these on Wednesday so please help me decide!

NewM3driver · 06-22-2015, 06:13 AM

I would opt for the first car, the lighter silver if it appears to be in better condition. Three owners may scare me away, but if you know the story that may not be a deal breaker.

Good luck!

Senilsson · 06-22-2015, 06:45 AM

I have no idea if it's in better condition, just a feeling I get from talking to the owner.
Thanks for your input!

m_alnimah · 06-22-2015, 11:02 AM

First Car may be slightly under equipped BUT it seems to be in better condition, Check all their Records and pick the one you like... I say good catch for an F10 530i @

Senilsson · 06-22-2015, 11:28 AM

All records are OK as far as I can tell. Right now I'm leaning towards the later car with more equipment, but I think I will have a look at both cars before I decide.

Senilsson · 06-23-2015, 11:48 AM

Anyone else want to weigh in? I'm going on a roadtrip early tomorrow.

TZ · 06-23-2015, 01:24 PM

The dash screen on the first one is out-date (very first and few F10 5's). If there no major different in performance. I would go for the second one.

SHoTTa35 · 06-23-2015, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TZ

The dash screen on the first one is out-date (very first and few F10 5's). If there no major different in performance. I would go for the second one.

Has nothing to do with being outdated as you can buy that one on a newer F10 just the same. The first one has the 606 "Business" while the other has the 609 Navigation Professional. Those are simply options, and most cases you prolly never were those in the USA. In Europe there are plenty as people usually skip those upgrades while in the US it (609) is standard.

As for the picks, barring some major issue on number 2, that's the one I'd get. Bit more mileage and questions of history but to me seem the better deal of the 2. As mentioned, as long as it doesn't have some major issue currently which would affect ownership in the short term.

The_Transporter · 06-23-2015, 01:37 PM

I would hold off on both of these and try for a MY 2011 or later. Lots of issues with MY2010... If you do get it make sure it has an extended warranty. Good luck and keep us posted!

Senilsson · 06-23-2015, 01:45 PM

Thank your for your replies!
What kind of issues does MY10 have that was fixed?
I know about the 'normal' F10 problems but didn't think any year model was any better.

Senilsson · 06-24-2015, 04:16 PM

Soo.. Today was the day!

After a four hour drive I decided to look at the "dark" grey car first, and it was an enormous dissapointment.
It had dents and scratches all over the place, it wasn't service properly, the color of almost every button inside the car had peeled of, gearbox was jerky and just the whole car was pretty run down.

I was very surprised given that this was the more expensive car of the two.

So, I moved on to the silver car.
Just by coming to the man's house I could tell that the car was in a lot better condition. Everything was nice and clean, and the car looked very smart on the driveway. After a thourugh inspection and a test drive I was completely sold. It was silky smooth, no dents or big scratches, new car smell in the cabin and just a solid feel to the whole car.

I came home two hours ago and I have already bought 19" 351M wheels and M-aero package. It's gonna look great! Current wheels are going to act as winter-setup.

This is the only photo you will get for now, more will come later when I'm done with the modding.

.BMW. · 06-24-2015, 11:59 PM

Congrats!

OEMonsterz · 06-25-2015, 10:08 PM

Congratulations

Senilsson · 07-06-2015, 04:22 AM

Cheers guys.. I just fitted new 351M wheels, still waiting for M-package to arrive from Germany.

chrisny · 07-06-2015, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senilsson

Cheers guys.. I just fitted new 351M wheels, still waiting for M-package to arrive from Germany.

Congrats! Looks great

Senilsson · 08-08-2015, 05:30 AM

Yesterday I got around fitting the front bumper.

I am very pleased with the result, for an non-OE product it is a very tight fit
I have the side skirts and the rear bumper waiting, should be good to go next week.

ezaircon4jc · 08-08-2015, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senilsson

Yesterday I got around fitting the front bumper.

I am very pleased with the result, for an non-OE product it is a very tight fit
I have the side skirts and the rear bumper waiting, should be good to go next week.

Looking GOOD!!!!!!!

How do the brake ducts line-up? I've read that they are off, but some air is still directed to the brakes.

Senilsson · 08-08-2015, 03:47 PM

Thanks!
There was some sort of plastic cover that was supposed to be behind the mesh right next to the fog lights but I removed it and the air should have no issues finding the brake vents now. :-)

ezaircon4jc · 08-09-2015, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senilsson

Thanks!
There was some sort of plastic cover that was supposed to be behind the mesh right next to the fog lights but I removed it and the air should have no issues finding the brake vents now. :-)

Roger......

Senilsson · 08-12-2015, 02:12 PM

The rest of the package is now on the car!
Side skirts are OEM fitment. Really well made.
Rear bumper on the other hand lacks a few mm on one side. I'm probably the only one to see it but all in all I would say this kit is 95% of what OEM is.

Enough talking, here's the pics!

.BMW. · 08-12-2015, 02:44 PM

Very nice!

Senilsson · 08-13-2015, 11:39 AM

Thanks!

06-22-2015, 06:01 AM	#1
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Which F10 would YOU buy? Hello! This is my first thread on the forum and I'm just gone dive right into the action. I sold my beloved Audi A5 last week and I've been hunting for a decent used F10 since then and there's two cars I'm looking at right now. And now I need your help deciding which one is the best for me! Both of these cars are MY 2010 and has the 3.0 straight six petrol engine with automatic transmission! The first one has 78000 km (48500 miles) on it and has three past owners. Pros and cons for this car: + Is owned by and older man and seems very well maintained/clean. + Sport seats and shadowline looks good on the car. - Doesn't have a lot of options, if I buy this I have to upgrade the speakers, get bluetooth etc. - Doesn't come with winter tyres (which is a must here in Sweden) Spec: No. Description 1CB CO2 CONTENT 2AH ALLOY WHEELS TURBINE STY.329/MT 2PA LOCKING WHEEL BOLTS 205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT 255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 258 RUNFLAT TYRES 3AC TRAILER TOW HITCH 3AP WINDSCREEN WITH GREY SHADE BAND 302 ALARM SYSTEM 320 MODEL DESIGNATION, DELETION 423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR 428 WARNING TRIANGLE 431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D 464 SKIBAG 465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM 481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL 502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM 508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) 522 XENON LIGHT 534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 698 AREA-CODE 2 704 M SPORT SUSPENSION 760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME 761 INDIVIDUAL SUN PROTECTION GLAZING 775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE 8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS 8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE 8SP COP CONTROL 8TF ACTIVE PROTECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS 8V2 STICKER NCAP NIED/DEAN/SCHWED 842 COLD CLIMATE VERSION 845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING 850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT 853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH 863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY 877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION 885 SWEDISH / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION 896 DAYTIME LIGHTS FUNCTION 999 ORDER CONTROL FIRST DEALER CARS The other car has 95000 km (59000 miles) on it but only one owner(current) Pros and cons: + Lots of options, bluetooth, HiFi-stereo, satnav, electric seats etc. + Winter tyres included - Slightly more mileage. - I get a feeling that it isn't in perfect condition (only one way to find out tho) - Imported from Germany (Maybe not a bad thing) Spec: No. Description 1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES 1CB CO2 CONTENT 2DB ALLOY WHEELS STAR SPOKE 327 205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 223 DYNAMIC DAMPER CONTROL 230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT 255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 258 RUNFLAT TYRES 4CE FINE-WOOD TRIM FINELINE ANTHRACITE 403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC 423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR 428 WARNING TRIANGLE 431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D 441 SMOKERS PACKAGE 459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY 465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM 494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL 5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING 502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM 508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) 522 XENON LIGHT 524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS 534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 6AA BMW TELESERVICES 6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES 6FL USB-/AUDIO INTERFACE 609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL 612 BMW ASSIST 614 INTERNET PREPARATION 615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION 616 BMW ONLINE 620 VOICE INPUT SYSTEM 633 PREP.MOB. PH. BUSINESS BLUET.INTERF. 676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM 698 AREA-CODE 2 7SP NAVI PROFESSINAL W.HANDYPREP.BLUETOOTH 8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS 8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE 8TF ACTIVE PROTECTION FOR PEDESTRIANS 8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO 8V1 NCAP LABEL 801 GERMANY VERSION 863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY 879 GERMAN / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION Please consider that no matter which car I buy WILL get the 19" 351m wheels and M-sport exterior package. I'm going to buy one of these on Wednesday so please help me decide!
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

06-22-2015, 06:13 AM	#2
NewM3driver Colonel 1110 Rep 2,007 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I would opt for the first car, the lighter silver if it appears to be in better condition. Three owners may scare me away, but if you know the story that may not be a deal breaker. Good luck!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-22-2015, 06:45 AM	#3
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	I have no idea if it's in better condition, just a feeling I get from talking to the owner. Thanks for your input!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-22-2015, 11:02 AM	#4
m_alnimah Lieutenant 70 Rep 473 Posts Drives: 2016 Mini Cooper S 5 Door Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Doha, Qatar iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW X5 [10.00]	First Car may be slightly under equipped BUT it seems to be in better condition, Check all their Records and pick the one you like... I say good catch for an F10 530i @ __________________ 2015 X5 xDrive35i M Sport, Black Sapphire on Terra Dakota Leather, Lane Change Warning, Lighting Package, 6WB, ConnectedDrive Services... (Sold) 2016 Mini Cooper S 5 Door Fully Equipped. (Sold) 2016 Audi A6 35 TFSI 2017 X6 xDrive50i Pure Extravagance, Space Grey on Coral Red, Fully Equipped.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-22-2015, 11:28 AM	#5
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	All records are OK as far as I can tell. Right now I'm leaning towards the later car with more equipment, but I think I will have a look at both cars before I decide.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-23-2015, 11:48 AM	#6
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Anyone else want to weigh in? I'm going on a roadtrip early tomorrow.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-23-2015, 01:24 PM	#7
TZ Second Lieutenant 51 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 2011 535i xDrive, 2014 435i CO Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	The dash screen on the first one is out-date (very first and few F10 5's). If there no major different in performance. I would go for the second one. __________________ 2011 535i xDrive Black/Black, Michelin PS AS 4 2014 435i RWD Convertible Service Manual: www.newtis.info Part: http://www.realoem.com
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-23-2015, 01:37 PM	#9
The_Transporter Lieutenant 204 Rep 491 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	I would hold off on both of these and try for a MY 2011 or later. Lots of issues with MY2010... If you do get it make sure it has an extended warranty. Good luck and keep us posted!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-23-2015, 01:45 PM	#10
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thank your for your replies! What kind of issues does MY10 have that was fixed? I know about the 'normal' F10 problems but didn't think any year model was any better.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-24-2015, 04:16 PM	#11
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Soo.. Today was the day! After a four hour drive I decided to look at the "dark" grey car first, and it was an enormous dissapointment. It had dents and scratches all over the place, it wasn't service properly, the color of almost every button inside the car had peeled of, gearbox was jerky and just the whole car was pretty run down. I was very surprised given that this was the more expensive car of the two. So, I moved on to the silver car. Just by coming to the man's house I could tell that the car was in a lot better condition. Everything was nice and clean, and the car looked very smart on the driveway. After a thourugh inspection and a test drive I was completely sold. It was silky smooth, no dents or big scratches, new car smell in the cabin and just a solid feel to the whole car. I came home two hours ago and I have already bought 19" 351M wheels and M-aero package. It's gonna look great! Current wheels are going to act as winter-setup. This is the only photo you will get for now, more will come later when I'm done with the modding.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-24-2015, 11:59 PM	#12
.BMW. Major General 1863 Rep 5,140 Posts Drives: BMW F11/F31 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Congrats!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-25-2015, 10:08 PM	#13
OEMonsterz Private First Class 11 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 535D M Sport Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Congratulations
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-06-2015, 04:22 AM	#14
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Cheers guys.. I just fitted new 351M wheels, still waiting for M-package to arrive from Germany.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-08-2015, 05:30 AM	#16
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Yesterday I got around fitting the front bumper. I am very pleased with the result, for an non-OE product it is a very tight fit I have the side skirts and the rear bumper waiting, should be good to go next week.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-08-2015, 03:47 PM	#18
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thanks! There was some sort of plastic cover that was supposed to be behind the mesh right next to the fog lights but I removed it and the air should have no issues finding the brake vents now. :-)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-12-2015, 02:12 PM	#20
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	The rest of the package is now on the car! Side skirts are OEM fitment. Really well made. Rear bumper on the other hand lacks a few mm on one side. I'm probably the only one to see it but all in all I would say this kit is 95% of what OEM is. Enough talking, here's the pics!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-12-2015, 02:44 PM	#21
.BMW. Major General 1863 Rep 5,140 Posts Drives: BMW F11/F31 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Very nice!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-13-2015, 11:39 AM	#22
Senilsson Private 62 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Soon BMW Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thanks!
	Appreciate 0 Quote