Bootmod3 for F10 535i

ezaircon4jc · 09-07-2017, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Before 239hp 190 ftlb
After 289hp 295 ftlb

Those are some pretty low stock numbers considering BMW are known to underrate their engines.

ezaircon4jc · 09-07-2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

Its a Dyno Dynamics reads lower than Mustang which reads lower than Dynojet (when properly calibrated)

BMW numbers are at the Crank not the wheels

I understand that. Even with a 20% driveline loss HP & TQ "should" be in the 240 range. From what I remember reading BMW's have less driveline loss than most.

FSociety · 09-07-2017, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I understand that. Even with a 20% driveline loss HP & TQ "should" be in the 240 range. From what I remember reading BMW's have less driveline loss than most.

Curious, what are your stock and post numbers?

JakOG · 09-07-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

Agreed, this is ok as long as you have your deltas which is the right way / and the reason of a Dyno tool

And you have it 100%

Curious what gear did they use?
If 4th, did you try a pull on 5th too?
Car was cooled down a bit after arriving?
Did they have good airflow?
All this affects numbers too.

4ht gear pull. Havnt tried 5ht
Car was cool at the start, but did heatup quite a bit on the dyno.
They have lots of fans, but car still heats up.
Ran like crap once I got it off the dyno. After a bit of driving it came back to life.

JakOG · 09-07-2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I understand that. Even with a 20% driveline loss HP & TQ "should" be in the 240 range. From what I remember reading BMW's have less driveline loss than most.

It's just the Dyno Dynamics Dyno.
Quarter mile will tell all.
Once I get a DP and e30 tune, I'll run it down the quarter
MPH will show if its making power

Surly73 · 09-08-2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Dirveability is better.
I've only been on this a day or 2 though, so need some more time with it to fully answer

Long term observations would be great.

As I said - it was longer term reviews of Dinan (or was it BMW Performance PPK?) which stuck with me. The particular reviewer had tried other solutions too and concluded "this is why you pay more even though the reported gains are less", and preferred the product over all of them based on overall driving experience.

IMO - I fully expect ECU flash solutions to deliver superior overall results more in line with what I'd be looking for. You're able to completely alter the behaviour and parameters, not just fool a stock ECU into doing what you want. The option of getting a little more boost, tuning for 91+, more sporty character and killing cold start cat light off would be worth a few hundred.

$howtime456 · 09-08-2017, 08:12 AM

would love to see results after the mods. Nice though.

JakOG · 09-09-2017, 10:43 AM

Is it of any value to anyone to see the data logs from the Dyno run?

FSociety · 09-09-2017, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Is it of any value to anyone to see the data logs from the Dyno run?

All up to you if you want to share it

JakOG · 09-09-2017, 11:13 AM

My Maximum boost in the logs is 2280 hPa
This doesnt seem right
That converts to 33psi
Have I got something wrong?

JakOG · 09-09-2017, 11:43 AM

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=59b09317d10b43473418a14d

FSociety · 09-09-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

My Maximum boost in the logs is 2280 hPa
This doesnt seem right
That converts to 33psi
Have I got something wrong?

proTUNING Freaks

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Originally Posted by Jackog

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=59b09317d10b43473418a14d

Go to your Datalogs top right settings icon > change to IMPERIAL and RELATIVE to see it in psi. But not sure if these present logs will change to new.

Bmw doubles · 09-09-2017, 04:18 PM

If it is 33psi your turbo won't last long. The seals will bust, oil could unbalance the wheels and that will be the end. Make sure it's not requesting 33psi in the tune. With MP we requested 20 and actual was 15. The stock PWG turbo can not physically fulfill the request

JakOG · 09-09-2017, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

If it is 33psi your turbo won't last long. The seals will bust, oil could unbalance the wheels and that will be the end. Make sure it's not requesting 33psi in the tune. With MP we requested 20 and actual was 15. The stock PWG turbo can not physically fulfill the request

Changed to imperial
Hitting around 15 PSI at this point

FSociety · 09-14-2017, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Changed to imperial
Hitting around 15 PSI at this point

That sounds good!

ezaircon4jc · 09-14-2017, 11:58 AM

How may/will this affect engine & trans longevity? I plan on keeping my 5351 for many, many years and miles and wouldn't mind a little more oomph but not at th expense of longevity.

FSociety · 09-14-2017, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

How may/will this affect engine & trans longevity? I plan on keeping my 5351 for many, many years and miles and wouldn't mind a little more oomph but not at th expense of longevity.

Your 91 octane is probably reason #1 your car wont live for many many many years and miles with tune.

ezaircon4jc · 09-14-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

Your 91 octane is probably reason #1 your car wont live for many many many years and miles with tune.

That was my fear... oh well. Just one more reason to get out of The People's Republik!!!

FSociety · 09-14-2017, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

That was my fear... oh well. Just one more reason to get out of The People's Republik!!!

Blend E85 you'll be fine

ezaircon4jc · 09-14-2017, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

Blend E85 you'll be fine

Not only is that something I am not at all comfortable doing Costco doesn't sell it.

JakOG · 09-15-2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Before 239hp 190 ftlb
After 289hp 295 ftlb

Got those numbers wrong
Scaling on the graphs confused me

Before 239 hp 270 ftlb
After 289 hp 397 ftlb

Bmw doubles · 09-15-2017, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackog

Before 239hp 190 ftlb
After 289hp 295 ftlb

Got those numbers wrong
Scaling on the graphs confused me

Before 239 hp 270 ftlb
After 289 hp 397 ftlb

I'm a little confused here. The N55 stock has proven to be about 280whp stock. It was proven by Edmunds https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...no-tested.html

And I dyno'd at the same place lace they did and got the same results.

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