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      11-01-2017, 03:43 PM   #1
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Upgrade HiFi audio

I have a F11 2013 (Europe) and i want to upgrade the sound system - i have HiFi (676) and i would like to upgrade to Logic 7 (677) or even Bang & Olufsen.
Several questions:
- speakers have same characteristics? can i simply swap current speakers with HK or B&O speakers? here i can buy a sh pair with ~150$ (HK) or ~250$ (B&O)
- if i upgrade the amp, can i use the existing wiring? (i don't necessarily need the extra speakers in HK or B&O)
- is Bavsound worthy to be considered? how is it comparing with HK or B&O?
- do you have any other recommendations? (like another custom setup, but should not be more than 1000$).

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Just buy the bimmertech amp plug and play. No wires cut or extra wires needed, use existing factory speakers with a Huge difference in sound and loudness, and you can always add a subwoofer down the road in the trunk if you’d like. Best purchase I made was my bimmertech amp and no I don’t work for them or anything
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      11-23-2017, 10:24 AM   #3
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bimmertech amp is in fact Fischer PP 86DSP + config files + plug&play harness + bracket; it will cost me 900 USD + 200 USD to have it shipped here + 250 USD local taxes; in total 1350 USD.

I can buy the amp with 550 USD in Romania, i will need only the plug&play harness - is there somebody here selling a dedicated harness for F11 HiFi 676 option (European version - i think it has more speakers than US version - 2 rear back in the roof) - to include from the start the connectors for Fischer PP 86DSP.
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      11-24-2017, 07:02 PM   #4
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Google "technic pnp bmw harness"
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and if the car doesn't have the premium sound (only base) is the same method?

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I've reached a conclusion regarding the upgrade:

Already installed
- subs: Match MW 8BMW D (plug and play for F10)
- subs amp: Ground Zero Hydrogen Mini TWO; wired required from trunk to subs (signal from subs to high input on amp, and back to subs with re-amplified signal; those will not be needed on the final setup)
- front speakers: Match MS 42c BMW.1 (plug and play for F10)
Already quite an improvement compared with HiFi.

Still to be installed, after i will receive harness (bought it from ebay - 73mustangconv, will arrive around 20 dec):
- Helix P SIX DSP Mk2

Will come back with impressions after finalizing setup.
Techs who've done the install claims it will be better versus Top HIFI Harman Kardon or even Bang&Olufsen.
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Personally i would go aftermarket if upgradiung the suond system i have an F11 with HK L7 and it can go loud but i get plenty of rattle from teh passenger door and rear roof mounted speakers - yet to ascertain whether this just needs some deadening\securing of trim or if i've got damaged speakers....
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Better sound quality and SPL for your money would be aftermarket 4" speakers with Match amp.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B---WLF View Post
I've reached a conclusion regarding the upgrade:

Already installed
- subs: Match MW 8BMW D (plug and play for F10)
- subs amp: Ground Zero Hydrogen Mini TWO; wired required from trunk to subs (signal from subs to high input on amp, and back to subs with re-amplified signal; those will not be needed on the final setup)
- front speakers: Match MS 42c BMW.1 (plug and play for F10)
Already quite an improvement compared with HiFi.

Still to be installed, after i will receive harness (bought it from ebay - 73mustangconv, will arrive around 20 dec):
- Helix P SIX DSP Mk2

Will come back with impressions after finalizing setup.
Techs who've done the install claims it will be better versus Top HIFI Harman Kardon or even Bang&Olufsen.
how do you like those Match components other than an improvement over HIFI...care to add
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Already 2 months since finalizing the upgrade, and IT'S WORTH EVERY $$$!!
Final setup:
- main amp&dsp: Helix P SIX DSP Mk2; it took a while to find the best setup, now it sound crisp and clear
- amp for subs: Ground Zero Hydrogen Mini TWO
- harness: Technic
- subs: Match MW 8BMW D
- front speakers: Ground Zero GZCS 100BMW-B - a class above Match
- rear speakers: Match MS 42c (with some adjustements on the plastic frame, to fit the enclosure)
- center speaker: Ground Zero GZCS 100BMW-C

Impressions: it sounds fabulous on vocal and instrumental; bass can still be improved (a trunk sub would be needed for crisp pulsing bass); no distortions at any volume (around 900 W - 2x200+5x100); way above HK logic 7 on E91 (my previous car) and F10 (friend's car); clear above B&O on Audi S4 (a friend's car)
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