[youknowluke]

Hi I'm new to the forum so please go easy on me

I've seen alot of HID kits on eBay with photos for F10s the sellers say they know they work and have special looms to counteract any coding on the dash or nasties which I've read about with HIDs.

I'm thinking of purchasing these as I just bought some Phillips White Vision bulbs and the results are poor there still yellow ugly and no good for night driving.... one problem no garage will even attempt to fit a HID kit to this car anybody who will do in the West Midlands/Gloucestershire/Bristol area?

Its a pain in the a** accessing the bulbs through the wheel arch and its no good for properly mounting the HID ballasts and more importantly resistors (they get hot!!) so I need a proper job done?

I'm looking for this and some coding in the above areas anyone who can help I will make it worth your while.

[ukbeemerboy]

Scrap the idea, and buy yourself the proper Xenon headlight units. HID kits just open up trouble on a car like the F10.

[makkan00]

Fitted them on my car.
My car came with jet washers.
Its pain in the bum to install.
My bumper was off as I had M5 body kit getting installed so I installed it then.
Find somebody who can install it for you.
I know that if bumper was on, I would have struggled.
They came with error canceller resistors and no errors on dahsboard. I tried to install them without these resistors and with coding but it did not work.
Since the car was in the garage so I had no time to play with coding so installed those resistors.

I must say that its massive improvement over yellow ugly light however it is no where near original bmw xenons.

If you go for one then 5000k is the colour which is closer to oem colour.

[youknowluke]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Fitted them on my car.
My car came with jet washers.
Its pain in the bum to install.
My bumper was off as I had M5 body kit getting installed so I installed it then.
Find somebody who can install it for you.
I know that if bumper was on, I would have struggled.
They came with error canceller resistors and no errors on dahsboard. I tried to install them without these resistors and with coding but it did not work.
Since the car was in the garage so I had no time to play with coding so installed those resistors.

I must say that its massive improvement over yellow ugly light however it is no where near original bmw xenons.

If you go for one then 5000k is the colour which is closer to oem colour.

So was this a LED or Xenon Kit and if so do you know where I can buy it? I think mine have washers aswell don't they only trigger if the headlight switch is in the dipped position and when using the windscreen washer?

I would get the BMW official but I can't justify paying £1000-£2000 for that there has to be a way.

Just struggling to find who, I must admit I had a VW passat with OEM xenons its was 2013 plate and I fitted 6k bulbs and the output was poor, so I bought OSRAM 6k bulbs £89!!!! and the output was amazing better than the stock 4.3k I think it varies the cheaper the bulb the worse the output, but on a HID kit we don't have much choice its a case of you get what your given because D1S bulbs won't fit no doubt about it.

[makkan00]

I have posted information here:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1069560

All the progress on my car:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1071025

[youknowluke]

anybody think fitting this kit will work ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141441234649

Its a 3 x CREE chip powered H7 bulb with massive turbo fans and heat sinks on the back of it, it comes with a 14 day return policy, and one year warranty. I contacted the seller directly told him about my car etc and the halogen bulbs it takes H7 55W and he said this will work no errors. His kit is 30w ? its just going to draw current however like a normal halogen bulb not like a HID kit (yay no flickering or relays) but my concern is that it will just think a bulb is blown all the time ???? anybody any ideas.

I've been reading up and H7 bulbs account for 40% of the UK market and you can only buy them in 55w but unless its high beam they run at 35w (hooray then the LED kit would only be 5w off) but here is my other dilemma I think that there is a small chance the dipped runs at 55w as its through a projector lens I maybe wrong and this would indicate why they run halogens through projector lens' because they can get more power out of the halo bulbs but I'm not sure as you can only buy H7s in 55w, I know the high beam will run at 55w and go through a reflector lens. confusing right???

Im thinking about getting the kit but I don't want to fit it as its a pain in the a** accessing the bulbs through the wheel arch so ill get the pros to do it for ££ but I don't wanna waste money if they don't work lol!!!

Any ideas??

By the way just thought I would mention after heavy research into this bulb technology the CREE bulbs are gonna take over the HID market by the looks of it the kits are really stepping up and this one is only 200-300 lumens of the output of a HID kit and get this the colour because its LED is pure 6K white. Compare that to the output of a HID kit at 6K and its out doing it by nearly 600 lumens. Its also smaller, less complicated and will last longer than a HID kit if not the whole life of the car.

[makkan00]

Cope paste from other thread

Originally Posted by youknowluke

No that makes alot of sense, one of my main reasons for attending this was to have DVD in motion set and any other way of playing video files set. But also was this angel eye frustration, could you do me a favour and post a picture of your car tomorrow with the headlight on 0 in normal daylight so I can see if this is a worthwhile mod because I'm travelling very far to come this weekend which isn't an issue but I don't wanna waste mine or anyone else's time if you see what I mean.
So to summarise can you please post a picture or multiple pictures of the halo headlights in DRL mode as there is like 1 picture of this on the net and its from side on at night you can see a difference but its stupid the way the photo was took.

No promises but will try. Car is super dirty and had my eibach pro springs fitted today.

Originally Posted by youknowluke

Theres a guy at a BMW place in gloucester who said if I pay him 400 he will fit new high power LEDs to the headlight and marker (where the yellow lights should be that xenons have), he thinks he can code in such a way that he can utilize the power source from the full beam for both LEDs fool the headlight into thinking its Xenon and then fit Xenon bulbs ballasts etc. To be honest I don't want to do this because its a massive gamble... he says hes gonna send me proof of a F10 hes done this on and if he does I will post and probably have it done. It will be an easy tell because on the photo the indicators are all different from the halo for the LCI and the Pre LCI xenon which is just LEDs so he won't fool me!!!

I see what you are saying. You stated that we code the car to fool that it has xenon kit. By doing that it will increase the voltage going to halo rings and they will be brighter.

Its excellent idea however following flaws;
1- There is physical difference b/w halo rings of xenon cars and non-xenon.
So simply by increasing voltage going to it (via xenon coding), it is not going to make massive difference.
2- If xenon headlights have bi-xenon, then your high beam H7 will have different PMW, and that may not work properly. Again, it require some work.

If I get time in the future, I may experiment. But I have no high hopes considering point 1.

Originally Posted by youknowluke

In answer to the CREE led thing I was referring to these new CREE led h7 headlight kits that come with heat sinks the works and as they are LEDs they just draw current like traditional halogens and light up nothing as complicated as HID kits, after seeing all the HID kit stories and flickering issue I might opt for this kit as the seller is promising that it works and its an LED its either on or off nothing as complicated as Xenons so I'm hoping if its 30w the draw should be enough to fool the LCU into thinking its got a halo bulb but again its finding someone who will fit the kit and do a proper job as I'm to impatient to do it myself and I don't wanna f*** anything up... These CREE kits are 6000k as they're LEDs and not as bright as Bi-Xenon but much brighter than Halos and you get a nice crisp white look.
Any thoughts on this? as I'm trying to find someone to fit it then its gonna happen and ill post the result.

See the LED kit here on eBay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141441234649" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.ebay.co.u...1441234649</a>

I think you can try this. You get 14 days return policy and you can return them if you do not like them.
At least that will resolve your headlight issue. But it may not be as bright as HID / xenons.

Edited:
Here is some feedback on these LEDs H7
http://www.monsterlights.com.au/mons...ht_testing.htm" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.monsterli...esting.htm</a>
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...eadlights.html" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.alfaowner...ights.html</a>
http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/thr...-bulbs.189200/" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.arrse.co....bs.189200/</a>

So, answers is 'NO'!

Edit version 2: Low beam is very poor!
http://<div class="youtube-playerCon.../iframe></div>

[youknowluke]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Cope paste from other thread



No promises but will try. Car is super dirty and had my eibach pro springs fitted today.



I see what you are saying. You stated that we code the car to fool that it has xenon kit. By doing that it will increase the voltage going to halo rings and they will be brighter.

Its excellent idea however following flaws;
1- There is physical difference b/w halo rings of xenon cars and non-xenon.
So simply by increasing voltage going to it (via xenon coding), it is not going to make massive difference.
2- If xenon headlights have bi-xenon, then your high beam H7 will have different PMW, and that may not work properly. Again, it require some work.

If I get time in the future, I may experiment. But I have no high hopes considering point 1.




I think you can try this. You get 14 days return policy and you can return them if you do not like them.
At least that will resolve your headlight issue. But it may not be as bright as HID / xenons.

Edited:
Here is some feedback on these LEDs H7
http://www.monsterlights.com.au/mons...ht_testing.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.monsterli...esting.htm</a>
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...eadlights.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.alfaowner...ights.html</a>
http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/thr...-bulbs.189200/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.arrse.co....bs.189200/</a>

So, answers is 'NO'!

Edit version 2: Low beam is very poor!
http://<div class="youtube-playerCon.../iframe></div>

The links did not work for some reason, did you manage to get any photos of the DRL? The cree LED kit is on order aswell as cree indicator bulbs they might aswell change them whilst they are there. I found a specialist who I've used before years ago and he's goannas fit it for me. He's gonna fit one and if it codes up on the dash just take it off not bother and back to the drawing board I will go. I will post the progress... Please post DRL photos of you have them

Take a look at this CREE LED looks excellent lighting performance I've been reason that it's output is nearly 400lumens more than a HID bulb in the equiv temp colour 6k which is good. If the performance is like he photo and it doesn't code it will be great!!!

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1...-H11-H4-H7.jpg

[makkan00]

Few photos of standard headlights.
When I checked the coding for DRL, they were on max brightness.





Hope that helps.

PS: These are not adjusted for brightness or anything and taken with iphone.

[youknowluke]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Few photos of standard headlights.
When I checked the coding for DRL, they were on max brightness.





Hope that helps.

PS: These are not adjusted for brightness or anything and taken with iphone.

Thanks for those photos, god the angel eyes are as bad as mine are on sidelights I thought there would be an improvement, do they barely show up when its sunny? P.s love the black grille and is that a M5 body kit??

Im gonna have to sort something out for the headlights Xenon or LED is coming to mine. Can't be doing with the halos I've got Phillips White Vision bulbs they are bright but they're no way near the 5000k they quote on the box. I think I'm gonna purchase the CREE next week will post the updated progress. As for the coronas ill have the DRL coded, I'm mainly going for the DVD in motion, sports screens and any other cool stuff I can get done.

Please anyone with a Halo and headlight mods please I need your input!! I parked next to a F11 today and even the rear lights are different NBT is so much better than CIC, I can't even read emails or do f*** all with CIC I would be pissed if I had paid £2k for this option and all it is is some USB slots and a big screen with nav!!

[youknowluke]

I've attached photos of my current Halogens, they actually look 10x whiter than they are in reality on the photos, I've also attached a photo of my LEDs when I press the unlock button on my remote in the dark, the LEDs are so bright. I'm so confused I might sell the car in the summer get an F11 with NBT & Xenons. In the meantime Ill struggle to find a solution !!

[youknowluke]

just too add I've ordered the LED kit but I'm not sure it will fit and don't want to pay somebody to find out it won't. Because I changed the halo bulbs to the philips and I was sure they need a retaining clip as the bulb plugs into what holds it in place. Confused.com?

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by youknowluke

just too add I've ordered the LED kit but I'm not sure it will fit and don't want to pay somebody to find out it won't. Because I changed the halo bulbs to the philips and I was sure they need a retaining clip as the bulb plugs into what holds it in place. Confused.com?

Are you saying that you have changed the light for halo rings?

[youknowluke]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Are you saying that you have changed the light for halo rings?

no its a mod in progress trying to change the dipped beam to CREE led, I had a mate I know take the headlight out today we both checked it out we measured the current going to the LED when we blipped the key and the angel eyes came on its 10w, the access to this LED is hard but you can strip the headlight its gotta be a weekend job but I'm gonna get the dipped beam done, all the LED is is a chip to make it harder to remove, 2 wires soldered onto it +/- obviously.... its actually an easy job the pain comes when you try to resolder the wires inside the headlight onto the chip so I'm exploring this with a headlight workshop in Birmingham. The LEDs are dirt cheap and speaking to somebody at Valeo on Friday they said the LEDs used on the xenons are CREE hence the heat sinks CREE leds get mega hot, the ones on the halo are yep you guessed it normal LEDs worth no more than £1, BMW cheaps out there as the CREE ones are £2.83 per chip. First is dipped beam then comes the headlight mod. Funny thing is also is that the CREE cheap is also 10w according to Valeo... so its just a chip change (which sounds simpler than it is) Retrofitting heat sinks should not be a problem as under the LED is just an empty space where the heat sink should be.


If I get it sorted ill post what happens!! coding tomorrow!!!

[youknowluke]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Are you saying that you have changed the light for halo rings?

CREE led chip link : http://www.lightinthebox.com/high-po...ncQaAtxU8P8HAQ

[teaston]

Originally Posted by youknowluke

anybody think fitting this kit will work ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141441234649

Its a 3 x CREE chip powered H7 bulb with massive turbo fans and heat sinks on the back of it, it comes with a 14 day return policy, and one year warranty. I contacted the seller directly told him about my car etc and the halogen bulbs it takes H7 55W and he said this will work no errors. His kit is 30w ? its just going to draw current however like a normal halogen bulb not like a HID kit (yay no flickering or relays) but my concern is that it will just think a bulb is blown all the time ???? anybody any ideas.

I've been reading up and H7 bulbs account for 40% of the UK market and you can only buy them in 55w but unless its high beam they run at 35w (hooray then the LED kit would only be 5w off) but here is my other dilemma I think that there is a small chance the dipped runs at 55w as its through a projector lens I maybe wrong and this would indicate why they run halogens through projector lens' because they can get more power out of the halo bulbs but I'm not sure as you can only buy H7s in 55w, I know the high beam will run at 55w and go through a reflector lens. confusing right???

Im thinking about getting the kit but I don't want to fit it as its a pain in the a** accessing the bulbs through the wheel arch so ill get the pros to do it for ££ but I don't wanna waste money if they don't work lol!!!

Any ideas??

By the way just thought I would mention after heavy research into this bulb technology the CREE bulbs are gonna take over the HID market by the looks of it the kits are really stepping up and this one is only 200-300 lumens of the output of a HID kit and get this the colour because its LED is pure 6K white. Compare that to the output of a HID kit at 6K and its out doing it by nearly 600 lumens. Its also smaller, less complicated and will last longer than a HID kit if not the whole life of the car.

Cheap LED's like those are not powerful enough for low or high beam! Do not believe the quoted lumen output, they're quoting the maximum possible output of the 2 bulbs combined, not the actual output when fitted to a car. Even then they're being optimistic.

All 4 series owners with factory LED headlights say they're no brighter than xenon's, and they're LED costing hundreds of pounds, and fitted into specially designed housings/reflectors!