No oil in my car?

WarReady · 11-11-2013, 07:49 AM

My cars practically brand new it only has 3800 miles on it and the cars telling me it's at the minimum level for oil..! I went to check it and there's no oil dip stick!? That's dumb especially because of the fact that the sensor inside the motor that tells u the oil level is known to fail which could have u putting too much oil in your car without knowing? I guess I'm just very aggravated lol has anyone else had this problem..!???

JamRWS6 · 11-11-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by STACKZ89

My cars practically brand new it only has 3800 miles on it and the cars telling me it's at the minimum level for oil..! I went to check it and there's no oil dip stick!? That's dumb especially because of the fact that the sensor inside the motor that tells u the oil level is known to fail which could have u putting too much oil in your car without knowing? I guess I'm just very aggravated lol has anyone else had this problem..!???

It doesn't say you have no oil, it says you've reached the minimum level and to add one quart. Add the quart and re-check through I drive. I've never heard of a sensor failure.

valcor535 · 11-11-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JamRWS6

It doesn't say you have no oil, it says you've reached the minimum level and to add one quart. Add the quart and re-check through I drive. I've never heard of a sensor failure.

+1

raleedy · 11-11-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by STACKZ89

My cars practically brand new it only has 3800 miles on it and the cars telling me it's at the minimum level for oil..! I went to check it and there's no oil dip stick!? That's dumb especially because of the fact that the sensor inside the motor that tells u the oil level is known to fail which could have u putting too much oil in your car without knowing? I guess I'm just very aggravated lol has anyone else had this problem..!???

What's your source for the statement about the sensor being "known to fail"? Since you didn't even notice the absence of a dipstick until you got the low oil warning it seems to me you should be down on your knees thanking BMW for anticipating your negligence. The system saves you having to do dipstick checking! Engine failure due to low oil might not be covered by warranty.

dr.mba · 11-11-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

What's your source for the statement about the sensor being "known to fail"? Since you didn't even notice the absence of a dipstick until you got the low oil warning it seems to me you should be down on your knees thanking BMW for anticipating your negligence. The system saves you having to do dipstick checking! Engine failure due to low oil might not be covered by warranty.

LOL. I honestly would not have checked my oil level if I had a stick. The 550 is known to waste oil like mad. Having the sensor is a safety mechanism, which I believe is put in there because they realize how many bust engines they would have without it.

MBA

weissja · 11-11-2013, 08:13 PM

Welcome to the oil burning club. It's a known defect. Don't let BMW tell you otherwise. BMW is replacing my engine and I'm not happy about this approach. My car will not be the same. There is no way my car will be the same given all the removal and replacement the dealer is currently doing on my car. Keep good records of all the oil you will be putting into your engine. Also, file a complaint at www.safercar.gov. Good luck.

remmib · 11-12-2013, 04:49 AM

Mine has a dip stick for some reason, maybe because it's a diesel.

bake · 11-12-2013, 07:01 AM

I like the electronic sensor, but I too find it bothersome that there is no dipstick. And regarding oil level sensors tendency to fail, that is very true in some older models, not sure if that issue has been resolved in the F10. I had two E46's in the past, and both had failed oil level sensors at some point during my ownership. It was a pretty well documented issue on the message boards as well.

WarReady · 11-12-2013, 10:05 AM

And considering I've had a cls 550 and I've never had this problem!!

WarReady · 11-12-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

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Originally Posted by STACKZ89

My cars practically brand new it only has 3800 miles on it and the cars telling me it's at the minimum level for oil..! I went to check it and there's no oil dip stick!? That's dumb especially because of the fact that the sensor inside the motor that tells u the oil level is known to fail which could have u putting too much oil in your car without knowing? I guess I'm just very aggravated lol has anyone else had this problem..!???

What's your source for the statement about the sensor being "known to fail"? Since you didn't even notice the absence of a dipstick until you got the low oil warning it seems to me you should be down on your knees thanking BMW for anticipating your negligence. The system saves you having to do dipstick checking! Engine failure due to low oil might not be covered by warranty.

I have a good buddy who is a shop manager at a bmw dealer here in ny and he has told me that the same sensor that's in the 550i is in the 750i and he has had 2 sensors fail 1 guy put 1 quart in when the I drive told him and he overfilled the motor with oil..!! I think it's a poor design and y would I look for a dipstick on my car considering it's 3 months old with 4k miles??

raleedy · 11-12-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by STACKZ89

I have a good buddy who is a shop manager at a bmw dealer here in ny and he has told me that the same sensor that's in the 550i is in the 750i and he has had 2 sensors fail 1 guy put 1 quart in when the I drive told him and he overfilled the motor with oil..!! I think it's a poor design and y would I look for a dipstick on my car considering it's 3 months old with 4k miles??

Well, it's a reasonable question. The point I'm making is that, dipstick or no, you were not checking your oil. A dipstick will not give you a low oil warning unless you use it. At least the electronic system, when it works, doesn't require any action on your part.

If your complaint is about excessive oil consumption on the 550, I don't think the absence of a dipstick has anything to do with it.

The X Men · 11-12-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by STACKZ89

I have a good buddy who is a shop manager at a bmw dealer here in ny and he has told me that the same sensor that's in the 550i is in the 750i and he has had 2 sensors fail 1 guy put 1 quart in when the I drive told him and he overfilled the motor with oil..!! I think it's a poor design and y would I look for a dipstick on my car considering it's 3 months old with 4k miles??

2 sensors fail is hardly a wide spread problem. Many BMW owners do not even know where the dip stick is, therefore a electronic sensor is much more user friendly. No having a dip stick also decrease the chance for oil contamination.

HighlandPete · 11-13-2013, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

Well, it's a reasonable question. The point I'm making is that, dipstick or no, you were not checking your oil. A dipstick will not give you a low oil warning unless you use it. At least the electronic system, when it works, doesn't require any action on your part.

If your complaint is about excessive oil consumption on the 550, I don't think the absence of a dipstick has anything to do with it.

Totally agree. System did its job, as the OP never bothered to check the oil level.

Any 'new' car to me (new or used), I'll be watching the oil level like a hawk. So easy to do with the iDrive system, so no excuse for not checking oil regularly. I can't even imagine not checking my oil level at least every 500 miles, even after knowing it is not normally using oil.

HighlandPete

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weissja Private First Class 13 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 550i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Welcome to the oil burning club. It's a known defect. Don't let BMW tell you otherwise. BMW is replacing my engine and I'm not happy about this approach. My car will not be the same. There is no way my car will be the same given all the removal and replacement the dealer is currently doing on my car. Keep good records of all the oil you will be putting into your engine. Also, file a complaint at www.safercar.gov. Good luck.
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