[MissionPerformance]

You guys might not have heard much about us in the past due to the fact that we have never been active on forums but its time for us to join in and provide BMW world with much needed tuning/reflash support. We have spent many years in BMW industry behind the scenes, building many unique and fun projects. Our involvement with BMWs has began with E39 chassis for which we built a twin-screw supercharger setup for the 540i. Since than we have progressed to building few S62 E39 tourings (once of those was featured at recent BimmerFest). Since then, we have moved on to Fxx chassis and performed word's first successful conversion of RWD 328D F31 touring and currently entertaining an idea of building a S55 (or even N63tu) powered F31.

Well, enough of past projects and time to say why we are here now. While working on the projects in the past, we noticed that BMW performance tuning world is dominated by few old-timer companies delivering very similar product. Those companies for sure have earned your trust since they have been around for a long time, but because of their long-term involvement in this industry, they don't have desire nor need to building new solutions and ideas. This is where we come into play. Making extra power on the new Fxx platform is no brainier and even an amateur tuner can get some gains, but what sets us apart from everyone is a concern for longevity, safety and innovation.

We have seen impressive power gains on S63 and S55 platforms in the past using custom software re-flashes and tuning boxes. Being around high powered engines for a while has taught us one thing: A proper engine calibration software is the only option when it comes to reliability. Since Fxx chassis is a relatively easy platform to make decent power on, few companies decided to do what Japanese imports have been doing for many years, and that is using tuning boxes to trick signals to the ECU. Tricking a computer of $60k+ car using a $300 tuning box just doesn't seem right to us. Companies can state that the tuning boxes are 100% safe, but that is just not true. What is true is that for optimal reliability and drive-ability, a proper designed software calibration is the only right choice and no one can deny that. Since this is a given fact, then why do a lot of high powered Fxx still use tuning boxes? Well the answer is really simple: most tuners are satisfied with their profits and just do not feel the need to spend time and money into further research and development. This leaves tuning support half finished for general public and completely unacceptable for those individuals that push their engines to the limits.

Tuning boxes have 2 advantages over a software re-flashes: A) ability to use higher rated MAP sensors B) Ability to implement meth injection. MAP sensor limits have shown to be a huge issues when it comes to proper calibration and we have seen that with quite a few cars tuned by few USA and abroad companies. We have witnessed medium powered S63s and N63tus hitting the MAP limits at 4-5K rpm. And then what? How can you build and sell a performance tune that is already maxing out your sensor at mid-rpms. Well, in our opinion you can't do that and this is why we have never offered for sale our software re-flashes until we figured out the solution to this problem. Our solution is a custom software calibration for a 3 and 3.5 bar MAP sensors paired with a plug and play sensor that we are rolling out within next month. This makes us the only tuner in the industry (until the point when others copy our re-flash) to be able to safely pass the 2.5 and 3bar limits and offer a reliable and well calibrated software for all of our customers that go with stage 2+ packages.

We believe that when a customer purchases a re-flash for their cars, every function should work as intended. At this moment, no other tuner has been able to properly re-flash S63 or N63tu, calibrating the Sports Display to show the actual torque and HP numbers. It might seem like a small deal to some, but to us this is a major concern. Sport display receives the proper data from internal torque model. If the sport display is saying you are making a "stock" amount of torque while dyno is showing 15% increase, well then we know something is wrong with a tune and torque model. In addition to this, quite few computer functions depend on this torque model (including AC and charging system) and proper calibration is a Key to a long lasting platform. Yes it takes a lot of time and resources to properly build a tune, but this is what sets us apart. We do not rush development and release generic software but instead perfect everything and only then make it public.


Future plans for all of you high powered customers: We know that a lot of you chose tuning boxes as they allow you to run integrated methanol injection. Well, this is all about to end as we are starting development for factory-integrated methanol injection using a plug and play harness for BMW factory ECU. That means that we are building complete calibration and program from scratch for pretty much all Fxx vehicles that will allow us to do just this. This is something that has not been attempted before as the R&D costs are phenomenal but having in-house engineers makes it all possible for us.


OBD/End User Flashing: There has been a lot of talk over the last year of OBD flashing release, but no actual release date. That is because such support will not be possible anytime soon. Back in E90/E60 day, tuners got very lucky as their cars had backdoors to flashing function of processor that allowed for un-authorized software to be loaded onto a car. That has all changed with late production TC1796 and introduction of TC1797 processors. Since BMW switched to this new processor line, the backdoor has been closed and only factory signed software can be used on the vehicle. After many months of research of this system, we have been successful of flashing partial data over OBD. The partial data is better then nothing, but in the end of the day it is still not something that we can use. The only way to properly flash Fxx over OBD is to have the master RSA key for the bootloader. Its not possible to brute force crack this key (its possible but would take a very very long time) and it can not be extracted as computer only has public key, not the private "master" one. So at this point on, do not count on having OBD support any time soon. It might happen, but probably not any time soon. Without the backdoor, the only way this will happen is if someone wants to spend good money (and by that I mean very good money) and obtain the mater RSA key for boot loader encryption.

Due to this dilemma, we have been forced to abandon OBD flashing research and instead built our own M-Boot option. M-Boot was developed by Mission Performance as an additional solution for all of our returning customers that either want to upgrade performance stage or "temporary" go back to stock for a dealer visit. Since M-Boot is a custom written bootloader for the Fxx chassis, there is no additional chip/hardware needed to be added to the ECU. In addition of having the ability of re-flashing the computer without sending it into our offices, M-Boot offers one very unique feature that no other company can offer at this point. After installation of M-Boot, your engine computer will never need to be updated at the dealer. That means that to the dealership, your engine computer will always show as up-to-date, factory original and in most cases, your tuned computer will not get reflashed to factory state. If for some reason dealership over-writes our M-Boot, we will reinstall the previous calibration for free.

On-Site flashing for Group Buys: We understand that to many customers, sending in your computer might not be an ideal solution. For those individuals, we are doing something that no other companies are offering as well. We can set up group buys of 10+ customers and I can personally fly out and flash your computers. Of course a working environment has to be setup for this to happen, but interested parties can contact us directly to set this up.



As a bonus, we are offering performance hardware ,such as downpipes, for many Fxx vehicles. Over time we will be adding more product to our website but if you have some special requests, just shoot us an email at sales@missiontuning.com


And questions or requests? Just send us an email or post it here. We are always open to suggestions and requests.

[Simple5]

You guys would be king if you can flash the n63.

[UA_civ_eng]

Originally Posted by Simple3

You guys would be king of you can flash the n63.

Yup

[badblack550xi]

Originally Posted by Simple3

You guys would be king if you can flash the n63.

[lsturbointeg]

Interesting

[550Reasons]

Originally Posted by Simple3

You guys would be king if you can flash the n63.

wont happen, they are already focused on the TU

[UA_civ_eng]

Originally Posted by badblack550xi

Hahahaha

[Bmw doubles]

Correct me if I am misunderstanding this. You're saying you can overwrite the BMW OS booting binary on the DME with your M-Boot software? Additionally, the M-Boot loader allows the user to toggle between tuned and factory settings like switching maps using OBD or a tethered computer?

[MissionPerformance]

BmwDoubles, you are partially correct. M-Boot gets loaded onto the DME using old school boot mode. That means we still have to bench-flash the ecu only once. After that, we can freely flash over OBD without having to open up the computer. The customer can switch between factory or tuned firmware at any point they want to do so using the provided program and cable. We are starting researching into development of android app for this, but for now we are finishing work on our software for PC.

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

BmwDoubles, you are partially correct. M-Boot gets loaded onto the DME using old school boot mode. That means we still have to bench-flash the ecu only once. After that, we can freely flash over OBD without having to open up the computer. The customer can switch between factory or tuned firmware at any point they want to do so using the provided program and cable. We are starting researching into development of android app for this, but for now we are finishing work on our software for PC.

Wow it sounds like you're about to pave a new path for flash tunes. Don't forget about OS X / iOS

I'm excited to see what you guys are going to put down for the N55 on F10's. Let me know if you need a Guinea pig I

[belal242]

this sounds like a nice new option, but the proof will be in the dynos and long term reports on experiences with the dealer and the overall reliability and performance. I look forward to watching you guys try to break this market.

Now is there any N63 options (2011-2012 Engines)?

Also, what sort of pricing are we talking about?

[lsturbointeg]

Agree! Long term research and development is key. Reliability, performance and if factory components will handle the power over long term and not fail. Probably why most people will go with the other companies products as they've had products out for quite some time along with actual users with their impressions or issues. I haven't done a tune yet but it's good to know what actually works because of what people's reviews are when posting about the product they have.

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Agree! Long term research and development is key. Reliability, performance and if factory components will handle the power over long term and not fail. Probably why most people will go with the other companies products as they've had products out for quite some time along with actual users with their impressions or issues. I haven't done a tune yet but it's good to know what actually works because of what people's reviews are when posting about the product they have.

That is 100% true and long term reliability is a key for a successful product. This is why we have never rushed, and never will, to release the product. We have quite few E70 35ds running with our stage 2 hardware and software package on xoutpost (our customer actually started a thread a while back for us) with great success. One of the customers in particularly on 2 occasions used his stage 2 E70 to tow his boat from Florida to Alaska and back with no issues at all.

Im posting last 2 dyno runs we have performed during a dyno season for F30 328D and F10 550i.

This is stage 2 550i dyno pull to show you the limits of the original MAP sensor. Check out the bump at 2500rpm and an instant drop after reaching MAP sensor limit. Since the new calibration has been performed and stage2+ sensors have been produced, we have made this tune way smother and even more powerful (We should new dyno numbers in next few weeks)


This is a basic stage 2 calibration for F30 328D N47 diesel. Safe gains from a 2.0td

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Wow it sounds like you're about to pave a new path for flash tunes. Don't forget about OS X / iOS

I'm excited to see what you guys are going to put down for the N55 on F10's. Let me know if you need a Guinea pig I

If you are local to OC, we would gladly discuss this option with you. Send us a PM when you get a chance.

[Bmw doubles]

Pm'd

[Pimpsy]

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention. Big n63tu numbers will inspire a purchase.

Please PM me when you post the new 550 dyno results so I don't miss it.

[lsturbointeg]

Be nice to see something for a 535

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by AlanM

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention. Big n63tu numbers will inspire a purchase.

Please PM me when you post the new 550 dyno results so I don't miss it.

You want big proven numbers, EnzoPerformance ask badblack550xi and ARC550

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Be nice to see something for a 535

Yep,

[747flyboy]

Any plans for N63 2011/2012....You did a good job avoiding the pre -asked question.

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

You want big proven numbers, EnzoPerformance ask badblack550xi and ARC550

Tunes like these are the main reason we decided to join in and actually provide real product. Can you hit 540+ flywheel HP on the N63tu platform? For sure, it has been done many times before. Can it be done safely? Nope, not with stock MAP sensors. N63tu uses 2.5 bar main and secondary MAP sensors. The secondaries are used for overboost detection and serve as high priority inputs for at least 15 protection/safeguard functions. Since COMP S63tu uses 3.0bar overboost sensors and MAXES them out at certain occasions, how do you expect to safely make 550hp on n63tu platform that requires more boost to make same HP numbers as s63. This is just plain impossible.
Yes, you can build a tune using factory sensors and rely on computer to compensate for the fact that you hit the MAP limits, but it is just NOT safe. On top of that, Enzo has no calibration for internal torque model. Actually, no one has it at this point. If you are producing 100+NM of torque and computer thinks that you are making factory levels, then how can you sell it as a completely developed product? You are selling a piggy-back like re-flash. That's it. It does work, no doubt, but we are not in the market to risk $60+ cars by flashing unfinished product.

We did not start this thread to argue with anyone, but unqualified opinions are just not required. I can see that you have been posting on a lot of threads (few of our old ones as well), promoting Enzo for some reason, and its not my concern, but please do not promote inferior product without actually spending years in research and development or at least visiting both product on a dyno and seeing them perform in action. I can bet you with 100% certainty that any 550+hp 550i will max out the main and for sure the secondary MAP sensor. If you do not believe me, set up a data-logger and log activity of both MAP sensors of your enzo tuned 28i. As long as your car is actually making 310+hp, you for sure will be surprised by MAP reading results.


Again guys, we are not trying to offend anyone but we came here as we saw this exact issue in the tuning market. We are not calling out other tuners directl, but if someone comes here to promote others, then we will respond with cold facts. Tunes are being released with flaws and to this point no one else wants to address them as it costs A LOT. Recalibrating MAP is not easy task for sure and requires at least 25 areas to be changed in the calibration files such as a main 30 byte scale map, 1 byte main calibration map and many voltage/load dependencies. Proper calibration takes a lot of resources but the outcome is a properly built tune, just like BMW designed it from factory (just with a good boost of power).

Originally Posted by 747flyboy

Any plans for N63 2011/2012....You did a good job avoiding the pre -asked question.

Sorry about that, though I already answered it before but I guess I did miss this question. At this point, we obtained a 2012 550i computer for research and starting to look into bypassing bootmode protection, but I do not want to put your hopes up. Yes it is do-able BUT it might not make sense for us to develop this as the BMW has left Continental MSD behind and switched to Bosch indefinitely. If the development will not take up too much resources for us, we will for sure make it, but we are not sure just yet. I will keep you guys updated regarding this.

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Be nice to see something for a 535

We already have Stage 1 finished for N26, N55, S63 and S55. "Bmw doubles" might be our first customer for N55 models and after his car is finished, you can wait for his review of the tune. Im sure we can ask him to make the review for you guys.

[Bmw doubles]

Flash tunes are no easy task and we have so little understanding of what parameters need to be adjusted and what security protocols from both Bosch and BMW have put in place. It's more then AFR, timing and boost, and its obviously more than the common garbage tool to access.

We know BMW is very aware of the tuning market and it takes an engineer of great skill to bypass hard coded parameters. Bench flashes are still evolving, even the backend flashes on the BMS side are custom tweaked sometimes when things don't go right. The real truth is in the long term reliability, so we'll shall see who prevails. In the meantime I can't say my GSR flash is better or worse then MP or Enzo, yet. I will say that the ability to OBD flash is pretty innovative on our cars, so you guys should give props where props are due. I know there are some guys who went from GSR to Enzo, but they have not compared the tunes or at least not publicly.

Stay tuned...

Get it?

[lsturbointeg]

Wait...so you guys are GSR because that's what Bmw doubles has? Or is he changing his out? My only concern was our turbo on the 535 is just too small and is already at it's limits. How much more hp can you pull really without say upgrading to the PureTurbo2 upgrades? I'm asking as a potential buyer.