[BMW_ACURA]

Hi guys Newbie here, was a member on 3 series forum and moved to 2010 Acura TL and now planning to order a 2011 535.
How many weeks does it take to take delivery(in US) after ordering and right now there is offer with free navigation going on, do you guys think the deals will get better or this is the best it can get.
Thanks guys

[ibimmer954]

Assuming you have an immediate production slot, about 4-6 weeks depending on the timing of your car being built and the boats leaving for the U.S. If you don't have an immediate production slot, then you have to wait until the 4-6 week timer starts.

[Bandini3]

Others on this forum can give you a detailed explanation of the ordering process and typical schedule.

Here are a few points you might consider:

1. The 'Free Navigation' offer should not be viewed as a signal that BMW is facing weak demand that has forced a (GM-like) incentive to stimulate sales. Rather, it arose because of disruption to a Japanese supplier following the earthquake. Apparently, BMW cannot source the non-Nav screens at this time. Since all new orders must include the Nav option, BMW is making it free.

2. You might search this forum for an indication of the typical discount you can expect on a new order. Generally, for an informed buyer, the discount will be appreciably more than the free Nav (~$1,900)

3. Rather than arranging a May/June order for July/August production of a 2011 model year 535i, you might consider requesting a September production slot for a 2012 M/Y when they become available (June).

4. Depending upon your time constraints, if you are interested in a 'deal' you could also consider buying a 535i from dealer inventory in late summer. Dealers will want to clear inventory ahead of the arrival of the 2012 cars. Factory incentives are more likely at that time, if there is a significant overhang of 2011 vehicles.

[Autojack]

For many years - but before the Japanese parts shortage issue - here in Southern California a new BMW order generally took about 8 weeks from dealer order date to arrival date at your dealer (give or take a few days) for all Teutonic-built vehicles. Subtract a week or two for BMW's built here in the U.S.

Based on our local market conditions, I would not anticipate much dealer discounting of 2011 F10's in the near future, merely because the 2012 F10's are coming soon. There may be other reasons to discount certain F10s.

The typical "good" dealer discount for an F10 in our area is a couple hundred dollars over or a couple hundred dollars under the invoice price. This can best be accomplished through the dealer's fleet manager or through the dealer's internet dept.

All of these issues may vary depending on your location in the U.S.

[bodonx]

I am on the same boat. Without seeing the changes on 2012, it's hard to make a decision.

[jondoc72]

mee too, waiting on the fence

[jondoc72]

also I want to drive the new A6 to compare

[Sharbotcom]

US guys consider yourself lucky. In Canada you are forced to buy the navigation system - no discount, no exceptions. So in the case of the 535i the base price is posted at $62,300 BUT you can't build your own without the $5,400 Executive package. I'd love to hear what Consumer and Corporate Affaires would have to say about deceitful practices. If you are forced to buy the option than it is no longer an option. The base price should be advertised as $67,700.

[yogi799]

Originally Posted by Sharbotcom

US guys consider yourself lucky. In Canada you are forced to buy the navigation system - no discount, no exceptions.

WRONG!
You technically have to buy it (Exec Pckg), but practically you don't have to pay for it! That's what I did. Placed the order this week

[BMW_ACURA]

Changes in 2012, what do you mean this model just came in 2011 and you are already talking of changes, could you please elaborate what changes r u taking about

[bodonx]

Since F10 came out, there have been 3 different "versions" of F10.

The changes are minor. But, what people in this forum look forward are bug fixes for steering wheel, bubble tire, etc IMO

Originally Posted by BMW_ACURA

Changes in 2012, what do you mean this model just came in 2011 and you are already talking of changes, could you please elaborate what changes r u taking about

[BMW_ACURA]

What are all the major or minor issues being reported by 535 owners

[jondoc72]

possible changes may include:
few houngred dollars more expensive
new colors, modification of existing colors like the graphite II
further corrections
changes in packages/selection
auto start stop function
M5 model,535d model,hybrid model coming afterwards

[Sharbotcom]

Originally Posted by yogi799

WRONG!
You technically have to buy it (Exec Pckg), but practically you don't have to pay for it! That's what I did. Placed the order this week

So they credited you the full $5,400 of the Executive Package?

[MrDit]

Originally Posted by yogi799

WRONG!
You technically have to buy it (Exec Pckg), but practically you don't have to pay for it! That's what I did. Placed the order this week

Please expand on what you are saying, I am not understanding. How did you not pay for it??

[bfv]

Originally Posted by BMW_ACURA

What are all the major or minor issues being reported by 535 owners

Don't get into issues....majority of buyers don't complain, just get the car and start enjoying!......myself coming from 08 TL as well

[yogi799]

Originally Posted by Sharbotcom

So they credited you the full $5,400 of the Executive Package?

Originally Posted by MrDit

Please expand on what you are saying, I am not understanding. How did you not pay for it??

I've negotiated to get them to throw it in for free (almost). Their initial offer was to pay 50% of it.

[Sharbotcom]

Originally Posted by yogi799

I've negotiated to get them to throw it in for free (almost). Their initial offer was to pay 50% of it.

Are you saying you negotiated 50% off of the $5,400 Exec Pkg? Was that the total discount?

If the base price was $62,300 and they advertise that (as they do on their website) you should be able to buy a base vehicle for that price (juristictional levies - taxes - excepted). If you can't buy a vehicle for that price and you are forced to upgrade (as in this case) then it is considered a typical bait and switch manouver. BMW Canada has got to change their base price to include the Exec. Pkg. and not keep the old base price.

If you negotiated $2,700 off of the selling price which includes the $5,400 Exec. Pkg. then you got snookered big time! Sorry! If you wanted the Exec. Pkg. then that is a good thing. But, I would expect the $2,700 to be indipendant of what else I would negotiate off of the car.

Bottom line is no matter what discount you got, your going to get a nice car that you will enjoy. But this does change the fact that BMW Canada is playing fair ball with their pricing on the web site.


Bill

[yogi799]

I don't think you've read my post correctly. I've said the dealer offered 50% and I ended up getting it almost for free. Total cost: $63k.

I am glad to have that package though.

How long did your delivery take?

[Sharbotcom]

Originally Posted by yogi799

I don't think you've read my post correctly. I've said the dealer offered 50% and I ended up getting it almost for free. Total cost: $63k.

I am glad to have that package though.

How long did your delivery take?

I was 9 weeks to delivery.

BTW I'm glad you like the Exec. Pkg. So do I. I'd still like to challenge BMW Canada on their deceitful tactics regarding this issue.

As I mentioed earlier...you are gonna love this car.

[yogi799]

Originally Posted by Sharbotcom

I was 9 weeks to delivery.

BTW I'm glad you like the Exec. Pkg. So do I. I'd still like to challenge BMW Canada on their deceitful tactics regarding this issue.

As I mentioed earlier...you are gonna love this car.

Yup, that was my main argument to get the discount... I said: since I'm forced into a package, the only natural thing for you to do is... to pay for it... :-)

Oh, yes, I can't wait! Thanks for sharing your delivery time. I had just started another thread on that as I can't sit in my chair! Did you pay a full price for yours?

I told my dealer I had only one regret - not being able to get the rear view camera (which is packed in a stupid 3500 combo). He said he will look into it and maybe break a package apart, as it apparently can be done for a fee. I could really use this camera, so hopefully the answer will be positive.

Yup, this will by my first new car, and boy.... what car!

[Sharbotcom]

Originally Posted by yogi799

Did you pay a full price for yours?

If you talking about the Exec. Pkg. I did as part of the configuration I chose. I did get about a 6% discount overall when I ordered.

Bill