BMW 5-series or Cayenne S (serious question)

TheRox · 08-25-2012, 07:11 PM

So I was pretty much teed-up ready to pull the trigger on a 550xi or 535xi...test drove them both, felt the 535xi was way more a driver's car...and all options in, the Cayenne is only 10-15 K more expensive...at this price point, I have no problems jumping to the Cayenne S. This is a lot of money, and I/family want to make the right decision.

Would you push a Cayenne S over a 535xi? (550xi was not for me, nice engine, but laggy from the get go, and way too much weight up front to be agile for me personally). I liked the 535xi, really did...but the Cayenne is quite a good vehicle and like that as well. We WILL get the Burmester sound system in the Cayenne, thats a must for us, something not available in the BMW.

My primary driving is highway 200 km twice a week. I don't drive much daily.

I feel the 5 series is overpriced in Canada - I'd pay 65K for a 535 not 75K (Pricing in Canada). (We also have a Panamera 4 and if I get the Cayenne S, I'll likely take the Panamera 4 as a daily driver and have the family drive the Cayenne S, but thats not the point of this post)

Thoughts? THis is a serious question, I intend to make the decision within the next 2 weeks. I know these are different classes and what not...but this is what its coming down to. Another way of phrasing this is: Panamera 4 or 535xi? As its unlikely I'll use the Cayenne much unless I want the Burmester for 2 hours/week x2 highway commutes.

gtron · 08-25-2012, 07:24 PM

weird you thought that about the 550i. my 550 is fast as hell and handles great. as a matter a fact, the 535 is pretty much the same car with a smaller engine. something must have been seriously off with the one you drove.

if i was going based on family, i would prolly go with the Cayenne depending on the options you get.

bobblehead · 08-25-2012, 07:33 PM

If you are going to a Cayenne, why not up a notch to a GTS. I know the waiting list may be up to Jan 2013 or so by now. I was considering the Cayenne GTS back in June but when I was told 6 months wait, it was a dead end for me.

I think you will enjoy the Cayenne GTS more !

TheRox · 08-25-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

If you are going to a Cayenne, why not up a notch to a GTS. I know the waiting list may be up to Jan 2013 or so by now. I was considering the Cayenne GTS back in June but when I was told 6 months wait, it was a dead end for me.

I think you will enjoy the Cayenne GTS more !

Hi. My family likes the v8. I'll likely take the panamera 4 as I prefer exec type of cars. Gts would add to the price on an already good vehicle. But excellent suggestion

Honestly if I could go back I would get the 4s but am happy with the v6 in the panny. It's swift.

TheRox · 08-25-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gtron

weird you thought that about the 550i. my 550 is fast as hell and handles great. as a matter a fact, the 535 is pretty much the same car with a smaller engine. something must have been seriously off with the one you drove.

if i was going based on family, i would prolly go with the Cayenne depending on the options you get.

I think so. Was a dealer demo that may have been abused Def a nice car though !!

bobblehead · 08-25-2012, 07:46 PM

The Panny 4 may be a bit too boring to drive. I did test drove the Panny 4S and although it's a great car, I did not find it too comfortable to drive ... not sure why.

As for the Cayenne, the dealer is selling this as if it's 'gold' and if you do get the GTS, I do think you will enjoy the GTS with sportier setting over the regular S.

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Originally Posted by TheRox

Hi. My family likes the v8. I'll likely take the panamera 4 as I prefer exec type of cars. Gts would add to the price on an already good vehicle. But excellent suggestion

Honestly if I could go back I would get the 4s but am happy with the v6 in the panny. It's swift.

TheRox · 08-25-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

The Panny 4 may be a bit too boring to drive. I did test drove the Panny 4S and although it's a great car, I did not find it too comfortable to drive ... not sure why.

As for the Cayenne, the dealer is selling this as if it's 'gold' and if you do get the GTS, I do think you will enjoy the GTS with sportier setting over the regular S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRox

Hi. My family likes the v8. I'll likely take the panamera 4 as I prefer exec type of cars. Gts would add to the price on an already good vehicle. But excellent suggestion

Honestly if I could go back I would get the 4s but am happy with the v6 in the panny. It's swift.

Hmmm I'm assuming I won't enjoy he cayenne. You think the cayenne s is more enjoyable than a panamera 4? I now you e power which the panny doesn't have.

bobblehead · 08-25-2012, 08:04 PM

Cayenne S vs Panny 4 ... I will pick Cayenne S. Simply more room. Every family needs a SUV.

TheRox · 08-25-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

Cayenne S vs Panny 4 ... I will pick Cayenne S. Simply more room. Every family needs a SUV.

Already have a panny 4. It's not going anywhere. Deciding between the 5 series and cayenne s.

luvthestck · 08-25-2012, 08:25 PM

We don't know your family needs so it would be hard to suggest.I will try to give you some things to consider. I hope I don't add to your agony

1.I would vote for the cayenne S.You have a sedanish vehicle. Depending upon your family needs you might find a SUV more useful than another sedan. This is coming from someone who hates SUV's. I personally wouldn't bother buying a cayenne for different reasons[ unlike my wife].I just think the value proposition isn't there in a cayenne and my necessities from a SUV are different than what Porsche intends to offer.Its just ridiculous that Porsche makes you pay more for basic things like a backup camera in such a big vehicle.

2.One other thing to consider are the interiors.Its a rather important one asyou spend all the time experiencing the INTERIORS. The panny and cayenne have similar interiors. Would you prefer a different feel/experience among your vehicles or would you prefer them to feel the same[cons and pros for both options in this matter viz. familiarity VS variety].

3.Would you like to have one of your vehicles a little more fuel efficient.I am pretty sure 535 wins here over a Cayenne S.
4. I am sure people will eat me alive If i say this but I would suggest you have a look at the 5GT.The interior is amazing and the backseat has such a nice legroom and comfort[ perfect for a family car]. Its not too low nor is it too high and You can get a very good price for obvious reasons.

Let us know of your decision and good luck.

Boss330 · 08-26-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gtron

weird you thought that about the 550i. my 550 is fast as hell and handles great. as a matter a fact, the 535 is pretty much the same car with a smaller engine. something must have been seriously off with the one you drove.

if i was going based on family, i would prolly go with the Cayenne depending on the options you get.

I believe that it's because the 535i has a smaller (as in weight and not just hp) engine that it is also considered to be better handling than the 550i.

That was also said of the new gen 328i vs 335i.

Both are great cars, but I guess personal preferences play a part in how the cars are perceived.

half man half amazin · 08-26-2012, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtron

weird you thought that about the 550i. my 550 is fast as hell and handles great. as a matter a fact, the 535 is pretty much the same car with a smaller engine. something must have been seriously off with the one you drove.

if i was going based on family, i would prolly go with the Cayenne depending on the options you get.

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joey5622 · 08-26-2012, 01:50 PM

i was looking at the same cars before going for the f10. you can't go wrong with either car! the only problems i had with the cayenne were the lack of tech/toys, the insanely long wait list in vancouver and the fact that i like being a bit lower to the ground than up. oh and most cayenne drivers here in van are old chinese moms :P

E92LNGCGY · 08-26-2012, 04:26 PM

This really depends on your family needs. Since you already have the P4 I would get the Cayenne. The 5 is a great car but I'm more of a Porsche guy

Steve360 · 08-26-2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtron

weird you thought that about the 550i. my 550 is fast as hell and handles great. as a matter a fact, the 535 is pretty much the same car with a smaller engine. something must have been seriously off with the one you drove.

if i was going based on family, i would prolly go with the Cayenne depending on the options you get.

Take a CYenne S.. Burmeester, well there is the 1.2kw B&O, not know which one is better. Fuel consumption, and practicality, and 'Appearance/Style' - personal call...

Russkey · 08-26-2012, 06:56 PM

Two great cars! Depends on what you need it for. I would choose 550 over cayenne s any day of the week!

Amleto63 · 08-30-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRox

So I was pretty much teed-up ready to pull the trigger on a 550xi or 535xi...test drove them both, felt the 535xi was way more a driver's car...and all options in, the Cayenne is only 10-15 K more expensive...at this price point, I have no problems jumping to the Cayenne S. This is a lot of money, and I/family want to make the right decision.

Would you push a Cayenne S over a 535xi? (550xi was not for me, nice engine, but laggy from the get go, and way too much weight up front to be agile for me personally). I liked the 535xi, really did...but the Cayenne is quite a good vehicle and like that as well. We WILL get the Burmester sound system in the Cayenne, thats a must for us, something not available in the BMW.

My primary driving is highway 200 km twice a week. I don't drive much daily.

I feel the 5 series is overpriced in Canada - I'd pay 65K for a 535 not 75K (Pricing in Canada). (We also have a Panamera 4 and if I get the Cayenne S, I'll likely take the Panamera 4 as a daily driver and have the family drive the Cayenne S, but thats not the point of this post)

Thoughts? THis is a serious question, I intend to make the decision within the next 2 weeks. I know these are different classes and what not...but this is what its coming down to. Another way of phrasing this is: Panamera 4 or 535xi? As its unlikely I'll use the Cayenne much unless I want the Burmester for 2 hours/week x2 highway commutes.

The Cayenne is a VW Tuareg under a Porsche camouflage.

Chili Palmer · 09-01-2012, 05:52 PM

My wife and I were looking at stepping into a Cayenne GTS (2010) to replace her '06 E60 550. It was at a BMW dealership that had a White Cayenne GTS on their pre-owned lot, but it didn't have the Light Memory Package (auto headlights) or the nicer leather interior, those were two "musts" for us, so we were kind of bummed. But it was at this dealership that had a CPO Jet Black F10 550i with the M-Sport package, the cooled front seat package with the butt massagers, comfort access, back up camera, but no split rear seat (why is this an option?).

We drove the 550i and I instantly bonded with it - I never really liked my wife's E60. This car hauled some serious mail and just looks (excuse my adolescent vocabulary) bitchen!

I don't know how much different the redesigned Cayenne is from the previous model, but if you're sitting on the fence between the two cars, drive the F10 550, it'll definitely push you over.

bcbarker · 09-02-2012, 01:06 PM

They are two very different cars.. The 5 is more sleek and sportier and the cayenne is big and bulky... Personally I feel the new body of the cayenne is super feminine.
I have the 535i and it's the nicest car I've driven long and short distance... I have a friends with the old cayenne and it feels slow and not worth the extra money of the Porsche name... If your looking for big and sporty look at the X5 M or X6 M...

Over all they are very different so it's all up to you..

08-25-2012, 07:11 PM	#1
TheRox Colonel 119 Rep 2,312 Posts Drives: 6mt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there iTrader: (2)	So I was pretty much teed-up ready to pull the trigger on a 550xi or 535xi...test drove them both, felt the 535xi was way more a driver's car...and all options in, the Cayenne is only 10-15 K more expensive...at this price point, I have no problems jumping to the Cayenne S. This is a lot of money, and I/family want to make the right decision. Would you push a Cayenne S over a 535xi? (550xi was not for me, nice engine, but laggy from the get go, and way too much weight up front to be agile for me personally). I liked the 535xi, really did...but the Cayenne is quite a good vehicle and like that as well. We WILL get the Burmester sound system in the Cayenne, thats a must for us, something not available in the BMW. My primary driving is highway 200 km twice a week. I don't drive much daily. I feel the 5 series is overpriced in Canada - I'd pay 65K for a 535 not 75K (Pricing in Canada). (We also have a Panamera 4 and if I get the Cayenne S, I'll likely take the Panamera 4 as a daily driver and have the family drive the Cayenne S, but thats not the point of this post) Thoughts? THis is a serious question, I intend to make the decision within the next 2 weeks. I know these are different classes and what not...but this is what its coming down to. Another way of phrasing this is: Panamera 4 or 535xi? As its unlikely I'll use the Cayenne much unless I want the Burmester for 2 hours/week x2 highway commutes. Last edited by TheRox; 08-25-2012 at 07:17 PM..
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bobblehead Brigadier General 256 Rep 4,721 Posts Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On iTrader: (0)	If you are going to a Cayenne, why not up a notch to a GTS. I know the waiting list may be up to Jan 2013 or so by now. I was considering the Cayenne GTS back in June but when I was told 6 months wait, it was a dead end for me. I think you will enjoy the Cayenne GTS more !
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bobblehead Brigadier General 256 Rep 4,721 Posts Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On iTrader: (0)	Cayenne S vs Panny 4 ... I will pick Cayenne S. Simply more room. Every family needs a SUV.
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luvthestck First Lieutenant 30 Rep 394 Posts Drives: 18’ Q7,16'981 GTS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hall of Fame iTrader: (0)	We don't know your family needs so it would be hard to suggest.I will try to give you some things to consider. I hope I don't add to your agony 1.I would vote for the cayenne S.You have a sedanish vehicle. Depending upon your family needs you might find a SUV more useful than another sedan. This is coming from someone who hates SUV's. I personally wouldn't bother buying a cayenne for different reasons[ unlike my wife].I just think the value proposition isn't there in a cayenne and my necessities from a SUV are different than what Porsche intends to offer.Its just ridiculous that Porsche makes you pay more for basic things like a backup camera in such a big vehicle. 2.One other thing to consider are the interiors.Its a rather important one asyou spend all the time experiencing the INTERIORS. The panny and cayenne have similar interiors. Would you prefer a different feel/experience among your vehicles or would you prefer them to feel the same[cons and pros for both options in this matter viz. familiarity VS variety]. 3.Would you like to have one of your vehicles a little more fuel efficient.I am pretty sure 535 wins here over a Cayenne S. 4. I am sure people will eat me alive If i say this but I would suggest you have a look at the 5GT.The interior is amazing and the backseat has such a nice legroom and comfort[ perfect for a family car]. Its not too low nor is it too high and You can get a very good price for obvious reasons. Let us know of your decision and good luck. Last edited by luvthestck; 08-25-2012 at 08:38 PM..
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joey5622 First Lieutenant 32 Rep 363 Posts Drives: 535xi Join Date: May 2011 Location: vancouver bc iTrader: (0)	i was looking at the same cars before going for the f10. you can't go wrong with either car! the only problems i had with the cayenne were the lack of tech/toys, the insanely long wait list in vancouver and the fact that i like being a bit lower to the ground than up. oh and most cayenne drivers here in van are old chinese moms :P __________________ 2012 535xi Imperial Blue Oyster interior 2012 Lexus CT200h Star fire pearl Ivory interior 2008 Infiniti G35x Aspen pearl Graphite interior - you are missed my friend
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E92LNGCGY Lieutenant Colonel 434 Rep 1,732 Posts Drives: F97/Q5/982 GT4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	This really depends on your family needs. Since you already have the P4 I would get the Cayenne. The 5 is a great car but I'm more of a Porsche guy
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Russkey Captain 155 Rep 751 Posts Drives: '12 BMW AW 550xi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 550xi [10.00]	Two great cars! Depends on what you need it for. I would choose 550 over cayenne s any day of the week! __________________ '15 Porsche Macan S / Black & Garnet Red / 20" RS Spyder Wheels / CF trim / Red Calipers / Black Rear Badge. '12 AW 550xi / Dinan S2 / Arkym CF Spoiler / 3D Design Style Splitter / Eisenmann Race Exhaust / 20' HRE FF01 / ACS Springs / CF Grill / CF 3D Design Diffuser / Blue Calipers...
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Chili Palmer Master Of My Domain 89 Rep 669 Posts Drives: 2015 650i Gran Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal iTrader: (3)	My wife and I were looking at stepping into a Cayenne GTS (2010) to replace her '06 E60 550. It was at a BMW dealership that had a White Cayenne GTS on their pre-owned lot, but it didn't have the Light Memory Package (auto headlights) or the nicer leather interior, those were two "musts" for us, so we were kind of bummed. But it was at this dealership that had a CPO Jet Black F10 550i with the M-Sport package, the cooled front seat package with the butt massagers, comfort access, back up camera, but no split rear seat (why is this an option?). We drove the 550i and I instantly bonded with it - I never really liked my wife's E60. This car hauled some serious mail and just looks (excuse my adolescent vocabulary) bitchen! I don't know how much different the redesigned Cayenne is from the previous model, but if you're sitting on the fence between the two cars, drive the F10 550, it'll definitely push you over.
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bcbarker Private 7 Rep 59 Posts Drives: 535i F10 M-sport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Newport Beach CA iTrader: (0)	They are two very different cars.. The 5 is more sleek and sportier and the cayenne is big and bulky... Personally I feel the new body of the cayenne is super feminine. I have the 535i and it's the nicest car I've driven long and short distance... I have a friends with the old cayenne and it feels slow and not worth the extra money of the Porsche name... If your looking for big and sporty look at the X5 M or X6 M... Over all they are very different so it's all up to you..
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