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      05-27-2011, 02:50 PM   #23
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alokdhir --

Thanks for the driving tips, pal...

Come on up to NY some time and enjoy the obstacle course.
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      05-27-2011, 04:06 PM   #24
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That is really not the problem. The metropolitan area of for example Ile de France (Paris) or the Rhein/Ruhr Region (Germany) are similar in both size and number of inhabitants. And still the roads are in a much better state.

It pains me to say that the once legendary american infrastructure is crumbling and right now probably the worst in the western world.
No offense, I love both NYC and the US.

The real problem is IMO a lack of government involvement to fund proper maintenance. And yes, infrastructure maintenance costs serious money.
Some states are a lot worse than others. NY is pretty bad.
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      05-28-2011, 03:44 PM   #25
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alokdhir --

Thanks for the driving tips, pal...

Come on up to NY some time and enjoy the obstacle course.
I live in NYC and drive almost daily between NYC and NJ areas (my job is in NJ) and I agree with previous poster (alokdhir) that the problem is NOT the car or tires but largely between the steering wheel and the seat My current lease also has a pretty firm suspension (more firm than on new 5-series) and stock RFT tires and yes, it DOES feel like you hit a landmine if you'll hit one of the infinite (here in NYC area) moderately deep potholes at high speed, but throughout my ownership I have never managed to damage any part of wheel/tire or suspension, even though I've heard multiple reports (on other forums) of other 3-series owners blowing up (and putting bubbles/cracks on them) their wheels right and left... I dunno why I have different experience... maybe because I learned to avoid all of the deep potholes or drive at an appropriate safe speed when they are unavoidable?
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      05-28-2011, 08:21 PM   #26
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Just got out of a 2009 911 S as a daily driver with lower profile tires than the new 550i and i managed no wheel/tire damage .... HOWEVER.....on my '04 545i with sport package I managed 2 bubbles and one slightly bent wheel. Now my driving habits and route to work haven't changed in many years so I have to assume the bmw wheels are softer than the porsches. Also managed no wheel/tire damage for 3 yrs in an E63. Go figure
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      05-28-2011, 08:24 PM   #27
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I'm sure you are a fantastic driver, AlexK. But, you also don't drive an F10 with 19" Goodyear LS2 tires. That's what most of the complaints are about on this forum.
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      06-02-2011, 06:40 AM   #28
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So.....what happens when (not if) I get my next flat? What are others experiencing with respect to tire availability?
I just cannot stand the BMW philosophy of run flats and no spare. So I bought the BMW spare wheel kit (From Fischer, I believe) which fits the E60. Won't clear the brakes on the F10 though, so I sold the tire (kept the jack and wrench) and bought a full size wheel and tire with TPMS sensor from Tire Rack. The whole thing has cost me about $600 and takes up a quarter of the trunk, but you know about that priceless piece of mind.

Sorry to hear that the OP is so unhappy. I doubt he's going to get any satisfaction from BMW though. It's not like it's the car's fault that he drives on such lousy roads.
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      06-02-2011, 07:18 AM   #29
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I drive a 2009 z4 19" RFT - in NYC - replaced 6 tires (insured) in 18 months
Also drive 2011 535ix (non-sport) - 18" RFT - no problems.
Low profile RFT cannot be driven over potholes.
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      06-02-2011, 01:59 PM   #30
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@ alokdhir if Hoss NY drives around NYC, which he did not specify, the pot holes are a major problem for any car. Let's keep this in perspective. BMW a German vehicle makes its cars with German roads in perpective. German roads are superior than that of New York City. I don't beleive any manufacturer ever builds cars with NYC roads in mind. Unless you have driven those raods Alokdhir, its hard to blame Hoss NY. Bear in mind there are over 8 Million people in NYC. Although all people don't drive cars, there is a lot more wear and tear on NYC roads than most in the WORLD!
I would point out that BMWNA headquarters are in a suburb of NYC. The management should have first hand knowledge on NYC roads, as well as northern NJ and the NE.

I would also point out that the wheel and tire choices in Germany are much more extensive. We are forced to 19" wheels with the problematic GY LS2 in 245/40-19 on all xDrive with any sport package, not so in Germany.
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      06-02-2011, 02:42 PM   #31
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14000 miles in NJ with 19's and I have a very very small bubble. I don't think most people would be able to find it but I am anal. The truth of the matter is run flats are a great idea but they need to be developed more.
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      06-02-2011, 07:52 PM   #32
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I'm not buying some of this. I drove all over Chicago this winter and then drove from Chicago to NYC and the spent spent two weeks driving between the Marriott in Teaneck, NJ and all around NYC everyday. Between the Chicago Winter, the trip out east, and two weeks in NJ/NYC I haven't encountered one problem.

Before I took delivery after reading all the horror stories about the run flats looked long and hard about ditching the rft and going with one of the Continentals, I think the DWS? I even put a full size spare in the trunk to see how much room it took up. Not perfect but doable.

In the end I keep the run flats and since Nov OK so far.

Assuming all you say is true you must be one of the top 1% of the job creators we need to fearful of if we raise your taxes, to be able to afford to ditch your Bimmer so quickly take a huge hit.

Me I would just take the free wheels you keep getting and put on regular tires and live with a full size spare until when I went to trade it and I didn't loose my ass.
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      06-02-2011, 08:42 PM   #33
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Lmao too funny

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I'm not buying some of this. I drove all over Chicago this winter and then drove from Chicago to NYC and the spent spent two weeks driving between the Marriott in Teaneck, NJ and all around NYC everyday. Between the Chicago Winter, the trip out east, and two weeks in NJ/NYC I haven't encountered one problem.

Before I took delivery after reading all the horror stories about the run flats looked long and hard about ditching the rft and going with one of the Continentals, I think the DWS? I even put a full size spare in the trunk to see how much room it took up. Not perfect but doable.

In the end I keep the run flats and since Nov OK so far.

Assuming all you say is true you must be one of the top 1% of the job creators we need to fearful of if we raise your taxes, to be able to afford to ditch your Bimmer so quickly take a huge hit.

Me I would just take the free wheels you keep getting and put on regular tires and live with a full size spare until when I went to trade it and I didn't loose my ass.
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      06-02-2011, 08:57 PM   #34
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I'm not buying some of this. I drove all over Chicago this winter and then drove from Chicago to NYC and the spent spent two weeks driving between the Marriott in Teaneck, NJ and all around NYC everyday. Between the Chicago Winter, the trip out east, and two weeks in NJ/NYC I haven't encountered one problem.
This is outstanding. One question. Do you have the 19" Goodyear LS2 or an 18" tire?
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That is really not the problem. The metropolitan area of for example Ile de France (Paris) or the Rhein/Ruhr Region (Germany) are similar in both size and number of inhabitants. And still the roads are in a much better state.

It pains me to say that the once legendary american infrastructure is crumbling and right now probably the worst in the western world.
No offense, I love both NYC and the US.

The real problem is IMO a lack of government involvement to fund proper maintenance. And yes, infrastructure maintenance costs serious money.
United States has 4.3 million KM of paved roads. France, 950,000 and Germany 650,000. Yes NY blows but there are areas of the US with roads that are very good.

Infrastructure is not crumbling and to say is the worst in the western world is laughable. There are certainly areas that need work but there are a ton of areas. You've been reading to many articles coming out of Europe that like to bash the US. New York has as many paved KM of roads as the once mighty Great Britain.
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I used to have a tough time with my 19" GY RFTs. The pressure was always 40+ psi.

I lowered it to 35psi... and a week later i noticed the driving is much better. Better grip, better road feel, more comfy, and no more bubbles.
ahhh.. good to know 35psi works for you.
Mine 19" GY RFTs come with 38 psi for all four when they leaves dealer's door.
I am going to lower the the pressure to 32psi per the manual recommendation.
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      08-08-2011, 10:58 AM   #37
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So, just brainstorming. If a rock truck is dropping rocks on the road, and cracking my windshield, I contact the trucking company and file a claim. The trucking company will pay for it. IF there's ice sheets on a semi, and the ice hits my windshield, the trucking company pays for it.

If NY City has a pothole, and causes you to get a flat tire...... it's the city's fault and they need to pay for it. YOU need to take a picture of the pothole, damage, and location. YOUR tax dollars go to the roads. File claims with NY and insurance and document everything, and stand your ground. Doesn't matter what car you have or wheels/tires.


Have you filed a claim with your state to fix your damage and possibly get the holes filled?
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      08-08-2011, 11:23 AM   #38
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I would point out that BMWNA headquarters are in a suburb of NYC. The management should have first hand knowledge on NYC roads, as well as northern NJ and the NE.
Of course they know very well... hence the wheel and tire warranty.

I am not a fan of the warranty, but sounds like this is an area you definitely need it.

And I thought the roads in Alabama were the worst ever. Remind me to stay down here in redneck hillbilly land and out of the New York area.
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United States has 4.3 million KM of paved roads. France, 950,000 and Germany 650,000. Yes NY blows but there are areas of the US with roads that are very good.

Infrastructure is not crumbling and to say is the worst in the western world is laughable. There are certainly areas that need work but there are a ton of areas. You've been reading to many articles coming out of Europe that like to bash the US. New York has as many paved KM of roads as the once mighty Great Britain.
Don't take it personal dude. I love the US and I would never "bash" the US. I'm sorry if I offended you.
I'm just comparing form my own experiences. I have driven hundred thousands of miles in the US (mostly NY, New England, D.C. and Florida) and I know the roads of western Europe plus Singapore like the back of my hand. Plus I'm into the infrastructure, tolling and roadwork business.
So, I'm not bashing, it happens to be my expertise.
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It is a fact the US infrastructure is falling apart. Much of it isn't detectable to the passing eye. An incredible amount of bridges across all of US interstate are in need of desperate repair. This is in no way exclusive to NY, as a matter of fact, most of the infrastructure is outside NYC where decades of commerce has beaten down the unmaintained roadways.

I don't believe you will find an argument among knowledgeable civic engineers that the US is facing a severe infrastructure problem that will be further compounded by its weakening dollar, debt limit and budget constraints.

I think Edwin was just passing his own opinion based on what I believe to be an accepted situation for the US infrastructure. No need to throw him under the bus with media attacks, lol.

ps. the US highway system is a direct model of the German Autobahn created by Hitler. Eisenhower sought to build an identical, literally identical system of roadways and number after the system he witnessed first hand during WWII.
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You know it's an absolute shame that only Pirelli and Goodyear have an HPAS 245/40/19 tire with an XL Load Rating. I've been waiting for another vendor such as Michelin, Toyo, or Yokohama to produce a quality 19" All-Season tire for our cars.
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How do I know if my wheels are bent? Although I concentrate to avoid hard hits- I must admit I have bottomed out a few times.

My maintenance is not for another 15,000 miles?
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You know it's an absolute shame that only Pirelli and Goodyear have an HPAS 245/40/19 tire with an XL Load Rating. I've been waiting for another vendor such as Michelin, Toyo, or Yokohama to produce a quality 19" All-Season tire for our cars.
If you're talking about all season RFT in that size, The Goodyear LS2 is the only game in town (in the world, actually). If you are referring to the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season tire, it is a non RFT. If you do want non RFT, there's a number of manufacturers out there in that size besides Pirelli: Conti, Michelin, Yokohama, etc.

As most evertyone on this forum is aware, the LS2s are junk. BMW is changing them over to Bridgestone Potenza RE050A, a summer tire in the same 245/40R19 size on a case-by-case basis if you complain about the sidewall bubbling issue w/ the LS2s like I did. If you are in warm weather country year round, you're good to go. Since I'm in New England, I've got till October and then I've got to get into something else. Since the LS2s are not available (I wouldn't want them back on my car anyhow) that leaves the Potenza RE960AS Pole Position RFT if and when it becomes available in the 245/40R19 size (available now in certain 16" and 17" sizes). I'm betting it will be available sometime this fall. Failing that, it's non RFT, either Cont DWS, or Michelin PS A/S. I'm in "discussion" now w/ my BMW dealer's Service Mgr and General Mgr. Wish me well!

I'm not familar with the abbreviations "HPAS" - something all season? XL Load Rating? - as long as the tire has a 98V or 94W load rating it will support the weight and performance of the car.
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I would also point out that the wheel and tire choices in Germany are much more extensive. We are forced to 19" wheels with the problematic GY LS2 in 245/40-19 on all xDrive with any sport package, not so in Germany.
Yes, but the only problem we don't assume to have is damaged tires ;-)
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