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      05-02-2020, 10:45 PM   #1
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Hi! I recently came across this 13' 550i for sale with around 54k miles on the odo and was wondering if it is a good idea to purchase a car with the N63 engine? Or would it be a smarter idea to go with a 528 or 535i? I've been back and forth between 3/4/5 series and can't pick one but currently, I'm leaning more towards the 5 series. I know BMW has a Customer Care Pkg for the N63 engines (I don't know If they are still honoring it). Along with that, I don't know if the repairs that BMW will make under the N63 (CCP) engine will make it reliable enough to surpass 100k miles. I heard the "recall" includes BMW checking and/or replacing the following items: checking the timing chain for stretching and replacing it if necessary, replacing the fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, and low-pressure fuel sensor. I just wanted to know if buying this particular car would be a bad idea...I don't think the vehicle has had this "recall" performed yet. I also heard that this repair could take up to two weeks (which I'd be fine with if the car would be solid afterward). I just wanted to know if I should run from this car or hop on it before it gets sold. Thanks.
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$16k Otd.
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Not too bad. Get a warranty- these engines are known to fail out of the blue.
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Didn’t they make changes to the engine in the 13 model year? The LCI brought about more changes but if I recall the 13 models had some mods to the engine... I have a 11 550i Xdrive the CCP was completed by the previous owner. I have had to spend about $3k in repairs on top of that. It’s not my daily driver so I would say consider it a fun to drive car when she runs well but not a daily driver. I second getting the extended warranty. I have Route 66 no deductible good for 5 years/100k miles.
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I have 2013 550i with 52k miles
I had care package done three years ago with stuff you mentioned excluding timing chain
that checked out ok
I did buy warranty when my original warranty expired it was roughly $4000
only had to us it one time upper and lower oil pan gasket was replaced
as of now I don't have any issues.
I am planing on keeping the car
oil consumption on 550i can be the issue but I believe it depends how you drive the car
but if you look it up not only BMW cars have this issue its all modern cars ]
we all can thank emissions.
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Not too bad. Get a warranty- these engines are known to fail out of the blue.
Getting a warranty was one of the first things I was looking into...surprised these things don’t have a 5yr/100k miles pt warranty (although it wouldn’t do me any good in this instance) but still. Randomly fail for what like improper maintenance? Or just because of poor engineering?
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Didn’t they make changes to the engine in the 13 model year? The LCI brought about more changes but if I recall the 13 models had some mods to the engine... I have a 11 550i Xdrive the CCP was completed by the previous owner. I have had to spend about $3k in repairs on top of that. It’s not my daily driver so I would say consider it a fun to drive car when she runs well but not a daily driver. I second getting the extended warranty. I have Route 66 no deductible good for 5 years/100k miles.
I thought the “recall” for for all the engines for the 50i cars from 08-15? Also, how much did the Route 66 warranty run you?
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I have 2013 550i with 52k miles
I had care package done three years ago with stuff you mentioned excluding timing chain
that checked out ok
I did buy warranty when my original warranty expired it was roughly $4000
only had to us it one time upper and lower oil pan gasket was replaced
as of now I don't have any issues.
I am planing on keeping the car
oil consumption on 550i can be the issue but I believe it depends how you drive the car
but if you look it up not only BMW cars have this issue its all modern cars ]
we all can thank emissions.
best of luck
How long did the CCP take to complete? I also heard that BMW was splitting the cost with the owner like 60% customer and 40% BMW are they still doing it this way? I thought BMW was replacing the engine if it failed some sort of oil consumption test....if I do happen to purchase this car it would be the first thing I would take it in for and hopefully it would fail the test so BMW could replace the motor.
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You should just look for a 2014+... or get a 535
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You should just look for a 2014+... or get a 535
Currently weighing those 2 options as well...The 535i might just be the best bet.
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You should just look for a 2014+... or get a 535
Currently weighing those 2 options as well...The 535i might just be the best bet.
535, n55 is solid overall and plenty quick. Much less stressful than a potential troublesome v8..
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535, n55 is solid overall and plenty quick. Much less stressful than a potential troublesome v8..
I agree with this. I would be uncomfortable buying a car with the expectation that BMW would replace the motor. Even if you received confirmation that it might be eligible for the recall, I believe that there's inherent risk in this approach.
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I own a 2013 550i xDrive, M Sport. I am meticulous on maintenance of the vehicle. I have had the CCP completed before purchase in 2016 and since have had the Valve Stem replaced under the class action suit. The car does not burn a drop of oil and runs great @ 118,450 miles!...Tom
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If you can't afford at minimum to get a 2014 550i, it's just not worth the risk to own an N63 engine. Some owners have reported no issues, but many (many) more had/have to deal with $$$$ issues.

I'm biased, so if you can get a 2014+ 550i, def. worth every penny. I've also driven the 535i and it's awesome to drive.

The other way you can look at it - cost of regular maintenance and repairs. Parts for the 550i are more expensive, and if you are capable enough to work under your hood, the 550i is a nightmare because of how tight everything is packed. I'm dreading the day that I need to replace something as simple as a water pump or alternator, nevertheless something more involved. Already reminisce about the old days of working on my E46. Sigh.

Also, if you don't absolutely need all-wheel drive, avoid the xDrive. It's great to have and mechanically very sound, but substantially limits your options for upgrades, most notably the suspension.
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OP, is this your first BMW?? If so, I would again highly recommend to stick to a later model F10 N55...2013+ is good. I have seen PLENTY of 535 with under 70k for under 20k. Yes, same prices as a 550, but we all know WHY!!! Also, some people dont understand any 550 has a bad name, so when you buy it, good luck selling it down the road...Just a thought to consider... Only option will be selling to a BMW guy who appreciates the work done but that would take time.

Overall, the 550i is a bargain, but these cars can be whores and suck you dry...

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Hi! I recently came across this 13' 550i for sale with around 54k miles on the odo and was wondering if it is a good idea to purchase a car with the N63 engine? Or would it be a smarter idea to go with a 528 or 535i? I've been back and forth between 3/4/5 series and can't pick one but currently, I'm leaning more towards the 5 series. I know BMW has a Customer Care Pkg for the N63 engines (I don't know If they are still honoring it). Along with that, I don't know if the repairs that BMW will make under the N63 (CCP) engine will make it reliable enough to surpass 100k miles. I heard the "recall" includes BMW checking and/or replacing the following items: checking the timing chain for stretching and replacing it if necessary, replacing the fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, and low-pressure fuel sensor. I just wanted to know if buying this particular car would be a bad idea...I don't think the vehicle has had this "recall" performed yet. I also heard that this repair could take up to two weeks (which I'd be fine with if the car would be solid afterward). I just wanted to know if I should run from this car or hop on it before it gets sold. Thanks.
I have 13 550 with 62 k. CCP has fixed most of the issues and all oil pan gaskets are replaced under extend warranty. Valve gaskets are also replaced couple months ago under the settlement. The car runs great now.
Yes, get extend warranty for sure..
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I agree with this. I would be uncomfortable buying a car with the expectation that BMW would replace the motor. Even if you received confirmation that it might be eligible for the recall, I believe that there's inherent risk in this approach.
Spoke with the BMW dealer today and it’s had the CCP done already by the previous owner and out of sheer luck for me the car was regularly serviced at that dealer it’s been serviced every 5k miles as well. I know replacing the engine has a ton of factors involved that could possibly all turn to a negative.
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I own a 2013 550i xDrive, M Sport. I am meticulous on maintenance of the vehicle. I have had the CCP completed before purchase in 2016 and since have had the Valve Stem replaced under the class action suit. The car does not burn a drop of oil and runs great @ 118,450 miles!...Tom
The 13 I’m looking at already has the CCP done however, no valve stem replacements. Good to hear yours is holding up well.
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If you can't afford at minimum to get a 2014 550i, it's just not worth the risk to own an N63 engine. Some owners have reported no issues, but many (many) more had/have to deal with $$$$ issues.

I'm biased, so if you can get a 2014+ 550i, def. worth every penny. I've also driven the 535i and it's awesome to drive.

The other way you can look at it - cost of regular maintenance and repairs. Parts for the 550i are more expensive, and if you are capable enough to work under your hood, the 550i is a nightmare because of how tight everything is packed. I'm dreading the day that I need to replace something as simple as a water pump or alternator, nevertheless something more involved. Already reminisce about the old days of working on my E46. Sigh.

Also, if you don't absolutely need all-wheel drive, avoid the xDrive. It's great to have and mechanically very sound, but substantially limits your options for upgrades, most notably the suspension.
Most of the (few) 14+ 550i that are near me either have too many miles or they have shady history’s with 3 accidents reported that all ended in Severe Damage or not one bit of service history.

My uncle owns his own Indy shop for cars like BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc..So anything that needs to be fixed I’ll just have him check it out.

Xdrive isn’t a necessity for me because it hardly ever snows here and when it does I’m at home lol.
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OP, is this your first BMW?? If so, I would again highly recommend to stick to a later model F10 N55...2013+ is good. I have seen PLENTY of 535 with under 70k for under 20k. Yes, same prices as a 550, but we all know WHY!!! Also, some people dont understand any 550 has a bad name, so when you buy it, good luck selling it down the road...Just a thought to consider... Only option will be selling to a BMW guy who appreciates the work done but that would take time.

Overall, the 550i is a bargain, but these cars can be whores and suck you dry...
This is personally my first BMW but my family has owned a few before. I’ve been advised by most people to go for the 535i. I’ve seen this one 550i for sale for almost a year so I’m steering clear of that one. The 550i could be found for an amazing deal but if the negative outweighs the positive then no point in owning one.
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