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      08-23-2010, 04:55 PM   #1
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Just had my first problem on the new F10 ,
only done 1200 miles and the automatic gearbox went, my dealer
took the car in for a gearbox change under the warranty guarantee ,
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Just had my first problem on the new F10 ,
only done 1200 miles and the automatic gearbox went, my dealer
took the car in for a gearbox change under the warranty guarantee ,
truly shocking.... Please describe symptoms?
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      08-23-2010, 09:42 PM   #3
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which gearbox do you have? 8sp or 8sp sport?
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which gearbox do you have? 8sp or 8sp sport?
Is there a difference? I would have thought the hardware was the same.
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Sorry to hear about this. Sad to say but it won't be the same when you get it back.
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are they taking care of u and giving you a loaner car?? how long is the repair going to be?
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Sorry to hear about this. Sad to say but it won't be the same when you get it back.
One certainly hopes it won't! Or are you actually saying it's not possible to replace a standard component so as to have a properly functioning car? That seems absurd.
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Is there a difference? I would have thought the hardware was the same.
don't know if it is the same exact physical unit
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don't know if it is the same exact physical unit
Yeah I think it is the same unit just different software.
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Sorry to hear the trouble... hope you get your car back sorted soon.

My wife would kill me half if I land the same trouble, she wanted a Merc, but I insisted for a 5.
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Just had my first problem on the new F10 ,
only done 1200 miles and the automatic gearbox went, my dealer
took the car in for a gearbox change under the warranty guarantee ,
Can you elaborate on "went" ?

On CAR magazine's long term test 530d GT the auto gearbox also disintegrated. A murky excuse was given by BMW (see below). Nevertheless, a pattern emerging?

Smoking oil leak on the 5GT – 19 July 2010

Oh dear, the 5-series Gran Turismo has gone spectacularly wrong. CAR's publishing boss Stephen Worthy was driving back to our Peterborough HQ from London when he noticed bystanders pointing and pulling strange faces at the 5GT.

As he pulled up in a car parking space at CAR HQ, he saw smoke and steam gushing from underneath. Uh-oh. Turns out the 5-series dumped all its oil. You can read the full story in the new August 2010 issue of CAR Magazine out on 21 July, but suffice to say it's been a major new-car drama in an age where we're used to meticulous reliability.

What caused the sump to crack? Turns out that a torque converter bolt within the ZF eight-speed auto had worked loose and shot out of the transmission at high speed. Must have been quite a force - it cracked the sump from within.

BMW sadly cottoned on to the fault once we'd been towed to our nearest dealer and insisted on taking the GT back to investigate. We always like to mystery shop our long-termers, but on this occasion that was not possible. The Bracknell HQ took the car for a good three weeks and reported back that it had never seen this fault before on a 5GT.

Turns out that our particular car had been taken in for some work on its auto 'box before its time on our fleet. It was an early launch vehicle that would've been used on the media first drives before coming to CAR. The implication being that the torque converter bolts had not been correctly reinstalled, leading to this later fault.

Anyhow, after the high drama and pools of oil littering our car park, the 5GT is now back and behaving normally. Which is to say, transporting four or five adults in miraculous comfort and punchily silent performance.

We're still fathoming out the 5GT and even the more sceptical members of the CAR team have become begrudging fans of its roomy chauffeuring skills. But this serious fault has won it few brownie points.

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Just had my first problem on the new F10 ,
only done 1200 miles and the automatic gearbox went, my dealer
took the car in for a gearbox change under the warranty guarantee ,
That's not good - I wouldn't be too pleased if that happened to me.
Especially after my last car has been scrapped due to cost of repair.

Wonder how much a new box for the F10 costs...
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      08-24-2010, 04:45 PM   #13
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truly shocking.... Please describe symptoms?
At low speed the engine was trying to stall and behaving as if it was cold,
when it was not, it was terrible everytime I slowed down on a junction,

and next day in a busy motorway, the transmission light came on, telling me there was a fault, and there car could not go over 20mph.
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which gearbox do you have? 8sp or 8sp sport?
8 speed sport
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are they taking care of u and giving you a loaner car?? how long is the repair going to be?
.The repair took a week, mainly because I left the car and then had to go on a business trip,
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Sorry to hear the trouble... hope you get your car back sorted soon.

My wife would kill me half if I land the same trouble, she wanted a Merc, but I insisted for a 5.

I guess it would be a bit embarassing, but you have to remind her it is only a mechanical machine and things can go bad, by the way the reliability of Mercs are much, much worse,
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Wonder how much a new box for the F10 costs...
Less than a Nissan GT-R transmission (~$30,000)
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      08-24-2010, 05:07 PM   #18
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[QUOTE=PoleApart;7882703]Can you elaborate on "went" ?


The vehicle is a 535 petrol engine.fitted with an 8 speed sport automatic gearbox,

The first symtoms as I mentioned in my earlier post, was that at low speed the car was behaving as if it had a cold engine, ( it was trying to stall, almost stopping and then suddenly speeding up ) this behaviour was intermittant and erratic , I thought initially it was a cold engine and ignored it, but when I notice that it was also behaving when the engine was not cold, I phone my nearest BMW garage and made an appointment for them to see it, later that evening in the middle of the motorway the vehicle slowed down to around 20 mph and a transmission light came telling me I had a fault,

At the garage they found the gearbox was leaking oil, and a replacement was ordered.
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One certainly hopes it won't! Or are you actually saying it's not possible to replace a standard component so as to have a properly functioning car? That seems absurd.
No I'm saying it's a new car and with this happening it make the car fell violated. I'm sure BMW will fix it back to normal. It's kind of like getting minor fender bender. It's just not the same anymore to me that is. OP I hope it gets fixed asap. Sorry for your mishap.
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and a transmission light came telling me I had a fault,
At the garage they found the gearbox was leaking oil, and a replacement was ordered.
Did they give any reason for the warning light not appearing earlier? Thanks for your info on the symptoms to watch out for.

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I read this thread and honestly I didn't understand what exactly happened to the transmission.

I think that for the sake of other members in this forum who own an F10 and who will eventually own one, you should elaborate more extensively of what happened to the car, how did the dealer diagnose this problem, and what did the dealer exactly fix/change....


Please...


And sorry for you trouble, hope everything is fine now
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I am so shocked to hear that bad news, pls keep us informed the update info.
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