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12-09-2009, 04:13 AM | #45 | |
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So, telling to ditch the AWD if I'm REALLY into driving is laughable at best. I want my sedan to have AWD and a DCT. If the 550xi doesn't get the best drivetrain available, I'll buy a Panamera or the next RS4/S4. |
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12-09-2009, 04:37 AM | #46 |
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im not a big fan of the new E class to begin with, looks wise
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12-09-2009, 04:52 AM | #47 |
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Listen guys,
If the 550i was to be offered with a DCT it would have been mentioned in the outlining spec PDF available at it's launch. The normal 5 series doesn't need DCT and it's highly questionable where it will be offered with the new M5. It seem remarkable that anyone would dismiss the ZF 8sp out of hand without actually trying it because after sampling one I was more than impressed and this is coming from someone with quite a bit of DCT experience. |
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12-09-2009, 10:04 AM | #51 | |
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I agree. This guy sounds like a your typical (I'm into photography) photographer who isn't REALLY into photography but goes to costco and gets the "BEST" (gotta love that word) dSLR kit he can buy complete with all the bells, whistles, accessories thinking it'll make him a great photographer. Then he chucks it on ebay 2 weeks later and moves onto a new "hobby." Truth is great photography has little-to-nothing to do with your camera. Gotta love people who NEED the "BEST" and want the "BEST" and have no real knowledge on anything. Please, people. Genuinely like something, learn about it instead of demanding "THE BEST" and talking about things you know nothing about. BMW is making these cars--not you. I think they have a better idea on what the "BEST" is.
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12-09-2009, 10:07 AM | #52 | |
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I've driven a 545i for a few weeks with the standard automatic and boy was I impressed. Same for the 335i auto.
Super fast shifting and extremely comfortable and smooth. I've never driven a DCT but I know I wouldn't like it. I'd feel like im playing gran turismo. I want to have a sense of the gears changing. If it's not a manual (the favorite option) an automatic (standard torque converter one) would be my next choice Quote:
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12-09-2009, 11:50 AM | #53 | |
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nice and unbiased!
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12-10-2009, 03:15 PM | #56 |
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Well for that to happen the new 5 series will have to ride much better than the 5GT, but if it gets this right then I have no doubt BMW will be back to the old days of the E39 when it truly was the car to beat.
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12-10-2009, 05:33 PM | #57 |
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The 5 GT is more like the 7. Depending on what trim of the car also varies the ride greatly (5 GT).
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12-11-2009, 01:14 AM | #58 |
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You say that as if it's a bad thing. I'm glad BMW is returning to its roots and reorienting the cockpit to face the driver.
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12-11-2009, 01:25 AM | #59 |
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The expected responses considering that this is a BMW forum.
I'll wait to see what the new M5 looks like vs. the current E63...as well as the performance. The W212 E63 is gorgeous, inside and out (especially in Obsidian with the full carbon fiber). I personally prefer the look of the new F10, but have not driven it obviously. I will say that I would take the current E class over any E60 5series. We almost bought a '10 E350 4matic over a '10 535xi....but ended up deciding on an X5 instead. BMW wins out in handling as usual, but for total package the E is a great option. Here's hoping that the F10 M5 outperforms the W212 E63 inside and out. I love the M5...and have my heart set on one, but as you can see from my garage, I could really give a rat's ass about the badge and am more concerned with the all around package. |
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12-11-2009, 01:32 AM | #60 | |
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12-11-2009, 06:37 AM | #61 | |
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I'm not a fan of run-flats though clearly BMW are and I know how much increasing the alloy size effects so I suppose I am expecting the new 5 series S/E with 19" to ride as well as the E-class on similar rubber, or even the XF on 20", anything worse will greatly effect it's appeal. |
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12-11-2009, 07:29 PM | #63 | |
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12-12-2009, 03:29 AM | #64 | |
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The 6spd in the 545i is incredibly dated. I hate how much the torque converter interferes in our 645ci. It's like it never locks up at a reasonable RPM.
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12-13-2009, 02:59 AM | #66 | |
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The wheels on both cars look dated already. |
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