Diesel Owners

kube · 11-12-2013, 07:51 AM

Folks -- just picked up my 535d xDrive over the weekend and absoultely loving it. Still breaking it in (116 miles only), so can't fully comment on the difference in performance between this car and my 2011 535i xDrive, but so far, no issues.

I'm not sure if I have a down-level software version or what, but in the Owner's manual, (p. 203), there's a reference that we can check the amount of diesel exhaust fluid remaining in the Control Display under "Vehicle Info, Vehicle Status, Diesel Exhaust Fluid." I tried to access this information last night, but it doesn't exist on my system -- there's no option to display Diesel Exhaust Fluid level.

Is anyone else able to access this information?

kave · 11-12-2013, 08:39 AM

It's probably AdBlue. It's urine from Pigs btw. It has been used by large trucks in Europe for many years to get rid of Nox emissions.

I guess you don't have it on US spec cars. I am quite sure there should be a blue lid where you fill diesel if you have it.

kube · 11-12-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kave

It's probably AdBlue. It's urine from Pigs btw. It has been used by large trucks in Europe for many years to get rid of Nox emissions.

I guess you don't have it on US spec cars. I am quite sure there should be a blue lid where you fill diesel if you have it.

No, I have the blue lid/tank for the additive, what I'm asking is on the Control Display, can anyone access the menu item under Vehicle Info that indicates how much is left in the tank? Manual says it should be there, but it's not on my car.

shikbas · 11-12-2013, 06:48 PM

The full urea tank suppose to last ten thousands miles and the car will give a warning to fill it up u should do that as the engine will not start if it is out of urea

raleedy · 11-12-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shikbas

The full urea tank suppose to last ten thousands miles and the car will give a warning to fill it up u should do that as the engine will not start if it is out of urea

He should still get a status reading out of the control display no?

raleedy · 11-12-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kave

It's probably AdBlue. It's urine from Pigs btw. It has been used by large trucks in Europe for many years to get rid of Nox emissions.

I guess you don't have it on US spec cars. I am quite sure there should be a blue lid where you fill diesel if you have it.

US cars definitely have the urea system -- even the 4-cylinder diesel that I believe doesn't necessarily have it in other markets.

kube · 11-13-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raleedy

He should still get a status reading out of the control display no?

Yeah -- that's my question here. Has anyone with a 2014 diesel been able to pull up the remaining diesel exhaust fluid level on the control display under Vehicle Information. The manual says it should be there, but the menu option doesn't exist, and I'm trying to confirm whether the manual is wrong, or my car has down-level software.
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gorban · 11-13-2013, 10:26 PM

I have an lci F11 520xdT -14 with EU specs and it has the AdBlue. I can see the level of fluid on the iDrive screen.

kube · 11-14-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gorban

I have an lci F11 520xdT -14 with EU specs and it has the AdBlue. I can see the level of fluid on the iDrive screen.

Great -- thanks for the info.

Is anyone from the US able to see this? (or even tried?)

I would hate it if this was one of those "country-specific" options and customers in the US get zero visibility to this information. I know we're supposed to get 10,000 miles per refill, but there's a disclaimer that at temps under 32F that consumption could be faster, so with winter on the horizon in New York....

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Grover432 · 11-14-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kube

Great -- thanks for the info.

Is anyone from the US able to see this? (or even tried?)

I would hate it if this was one of those "country-specific" options and customers in the US get zero visibility to this information. I know we're supposed to get 10,000 miles per refill, but there's a disclaimer that at temps under 32F that consumption could be faster, so with winter on the horizon in New York....

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If it isn't installed in your car, maybe it can be coded?

pokerface · 11-14-2013, 09:15 PM

Just to share some knowledge that circulates the forums every so often.. the Urea Fluid, AdBlue, or Diesel Exhaust Fluid can be purchased at VW, or even at Walmart for significantly less than what the BMW / Benz / Audi dealerships would sell for.

raleedy · 11-14-2013, 11:57 PM

I'm amazed at how hard it is here for the OP to get a direct answer to a simple question!

BMW Bandit · 11-26-2013, 09:31 AM

Hi folks, newby here from Canada. I recently bought a 2014 535d and I too am unable to determine the amount of DEF fluid remaining in vehicle even though the manual gives explicit instructions on how to do that. My dealer has checked several other cars and all have the same issue. BMW needs to update the software to allow this check to be made.

Still on the topic of DEF, in addition to monitoring the QUANTITY, the car also monitors the QUALITY of the DEF. If for any reason, the computer decides the DEF is the "Incorrect exhaust fluid" the computer puts the car into a 200 mile limit with NO RESTART when the counter hits 0 miles. You are required to seek BMW service within that mileage limit. This happened to me in central California with less than 2000 miles on the car. Cost me a 2 day lay-over to get it fixed.

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kube Private First Class 15 Rep 121 Posts Drives: 2014 535d xDrive MSport Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East Fishkill, NY iTrader: (0)	Diesel Owners - Exhaust Fluid Range? Folks -- just picked up my 535d xDrive over the weekend and absoultely loving it. Still breaking it in (116 miles only), so can't fully comment on the difference in performance between this car and my 2011 535i xDrive, but so far, no issues. I'm not sure if I have a down-level software version or what, but in the Owner's manual, (p. 203), there's a reference that we can check the amount of diesel exhaust fluid remaining in the Control Display under "Vehicle Info, Vehicle Status, Diesel Exhaust Fluid." I tried to access this information last night, but it doesn't exist on my system -- there's no option to display Diesel Exhaust Fluid level. Is anyone else able to access this information? __________________ Current: 2014 BMW 535d xDrive MSport \| Dark Graphite \| Black l Dark Wood \| Loaded Current: 2018 BMW X3 30i \| 2014 MINI Cooper S \| 2007 VW Jetta 2.5 Retired: 2015 X3 28i \| 2011 BMW 535i xDrive MSport \| 2008 BMW 535ix \| 2005 BMW X5 4.4i \| 2002 BMW X5 4.4i \| 1986 BMW 325e (275k miles) \| 1983 BMW 320i
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kave First Lieutenant 19 Rep 329 Posts Drives: BMW 520D Touring 2012 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 520D Touring [10.00]	It's probably AdBlue. It's urine from Pigs btw. It has been used by large trucks in Europe for many years to get rid of Nox emissions. I guess you don't have it on US spec cars. I am quite sure there should be a blue lid where you fill diesel if you have it. __________________
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shikbas Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: Bimmer Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	The full urea tank suppose to last ten thousands miles and the car will give a warning to fill it up u should do that as the engine will not start if it is out of urea
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11-13-2013, 10:26 PM	#8
gorban Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 229 Posts Drives: F11 520xdAT, E87 120dM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden iTrader: (0)	I have an lci F11 520xdT -14 with EU specs and it has the AdBlue. I can see the level of fluid on the iDrive screen. __________________ Current: 2014 F11 lci 520xd Touring, Imperial Blue
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11-14-2013, 09:15 PM	#11
pokerface Colonel 430 Rep 2,524 Posts Drives: F25 X3 N20 / F80 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Just to share some knowledge that circulates the forums every so often.. the Urea Fluid, AdBlue, or Diesel Exhaust Fluid can be purchased at VW, or even at Walmart for significantly less than what the BMW / Benz / Audi dealerships would sell for.
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raleedy Colonel 160 Rep 2,248 Posts Drives: 2016 228i 6-speed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	I'm amazed at how hard it is here for the OP to get a direct answer to a simple question!
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11-26-2013, 09:31 AM	#13
BMW Bandit Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2014 535d Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Victoria, BC iTrader: (0)	DEF fluid levels in the 535d Hi folks, newby here from Canada. I recently bought a 2014 535d and I too am unable to determine the amount of DEF fluid remaining in vehicle even though the manual gives explicit instructions on how to do that. My dealer has checked several other cars and all have the same issue. BMW needs to update the software to allow this check to be made. Still on the topic of DEF, in addition to monitoring the QUANTITY, the car also monitors the QUALITY of the DEF. If for any reason, the computer decides the DEF is the "Incorrect exhaust fluid" the computer puts the car into a 200 mile limit with NO RESTART when the counter hits 0 miles. You are required to seek BMW service within that mileage limit. This happened to me in central California with less than 2000 miles on the car. Cost me a 2 day lay-over to get it fixed.
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