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      07-17-2021, 07:23 PM   #1
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Enjoy your tunes...

Looks like those of us in Kommirfornyastan can no longer tune our ECU's. And the Fed's are onboard.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/cali...modifications/
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Wouldn't you just roll it back to stock map and should be good?
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      07-18-2021, 10:48 AM   #4
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Wouldn't you just roll it back to stock map and should be good?
That's terrible but luckily for MHD users I think we can even reset our flash counter to zero
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There are a decent amount of CARB legal tunes. Hopefully BM3 and MHD will come out with some. Or just flash the stock map for the smog checks.

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That's terrible but luckily for MHD users I think we can even reset our flash counter to zero
Flash counter won't really matter, they're checking for non-CARB compliant tunes, not "has this car ever been tuned"
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      07-18-2021, 03:54 PM   #6
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Flash counter won't really matter, they're checking for non-CARB compliant tunes, not "has this car ever been tuned"
From what I understand they plan on looking for just that. I don't know how the in's and out's, but they want to make sure the car wasn't tuned and then switched back. IIUC, has something to do with sensor history.
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From what I understand they plan on looking for just that. I don't know how the in's and out's, but they want to make sure the car wasn't tuned and then switched back. IIUC, has something to do with sensor history.
It looks like they're fine with it being switched back from what I can tell.

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-The vehicle’s software must be restored to an OEM version or a CARB EO approved version.

-Once restored, the vehicle may be retested at any licensed Smog Check station.
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Since you can just flash back to stock, this is no big deal IMO. The whole car industry is going electric anyway, so this won’t matter in a few years.
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Since you can just flash back to stock, this is no big deal IMO. The whole car industry is going electric anyway, so this won’t matter in a few years.
I would still be buying older gas cars lol.
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I would still be buying older gas cars lol.
Electric cars are never going to have the sound of say a flat plane V8, V10, or even a VTEC Honda revved to 9K. However, instant torque, 0-60 in under 4 seconds being average, recharging at home, no oil changes (or leaking valve covers or OFHC!), and less pollution. The future is bright.

I'm genuinely excited for the F150 Lightning. I'd love to be able to occasionally tow a boat or trailer, and never have to pay for gas or diesel fuel.
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Electric cars are never going to have the sound of say a flat plane V8, V10, or even a VTEC Honda revved to 9K. However, instant torque, 0-60 in under 4 seconds being average, recharging at home, no oil changes (or leaking valve covers or OFHC!), and less pollution. The future is bright.

I'm genuinely excited for the F150 Lightning. I'd love to be able to occasionally tow a boat or trailer, and never have to pay for gas or diesel fuel.
the f150 is based on the rivian skateboard platform

4 independent motors. you can do tank turns with ease...

Rivian has done a phenomenal job with their new truck/SUV Platform. We maybe replacing my wife's MDX with the r1s SUV in the coming years.
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...However, instant torque, 0-60 in under 4 seconds being average...
Until the battery heats up and power is reduced significantly. Long mountain grades won't be fun.

Then there's the over-taxed power grid. We in Kommiefornyastan were "asked" to not charge EV's. At least when I run out of gas I can refuel. In the unfortunate event a battery dies, the owner is left with a $12K+ battery replacement. No doubt EV's have a place, HOWEVER, what happens when everyone is trying to charge their cars at the same time I'm trying to run my a/c?
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Until the battery heats up and power is reduced significantly. Long mountain grades won't be fun.

Then there's the over-taxed power grid. We in Kommiefornyastan were "asked" to not charge EV's. At least when I run out of gas I can refuel. In the unfortunate event a battery dies, the owner is left with a $12K+ battery replacement. No doubt EV's have a place, HOWEVER, what happens when everyone is trying to charge their cars at the same time I'm trying to run my a/c?
Meh, oil is a finite resource...we're all going to run out of gas eventually unless we evolve and embrace new technologies. I'm just happy that the "green" EV revolution has a place for enthusiasts with the EV sports car applications.

We're still in the relative infancy when it comes to EV technology vs petrol-based engines. I imagine it's going to be a vastly different world in 10-20 years. California, like every other state, needs modern infrastructure upgrades.
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I just passed. MHD back to stock.
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I just passed. MHD back to stock.
EXCELLENT news!!
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Until the battery heats up and power is reduced significantly. Long mountain grades won't be fun.

Then there's the over-taxed power grid. We in Kommiefornyastan were "asked" to not charge EV's. At least when I run out of gas I can refuel. In the unfortunate event a battery dies, the owner is left with a $12K+ battery replacement. No doubt EV's have a place, HOWEVER, what happens when everyone is trying to charge their cars at the same time I'm trying to run my a/c?
The grid definitely needs work, but we shouldn't just say "let's not develop it" because we haven't solved all the problems yet in one go. Sure batteries are expensive, but so were engines back in the early days of the internal combustion car. Hell new engines TODAY are still expensive as well.
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The grid definitely needs work, but we shouldn't just say "let's not develop it" because we haven't solved all the problems yet in one go. Sure batteries are expensive, but so were engines back in the early days of the internal combustion car. Hell new engines TODAY are still expensive as well.
The PRK hasn't built a powerplant in DECADES and won't anytime soon. The tree-huggers will continue to prevent efficient (nuclear) power plants from being built. There isn't enough wind or solar available. Batteries still have a heat issue.
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I just passed. MHD back to stock.
Flash to stage zero or remove mhd completely?
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Flash to stage zero or removed mhd completely?
The long flash. I believe that's remove MHD.
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The PRK hasn't built a powerplant in DECADES and won't anytime soon. The tree-huggers will continue to prevent efficient (nuclear) power plants from being built. There isn't enough wind or solar available. Batteries still have a heat issue.
Thinking hippies are the reason nuclear isn't being built is a very 80's mindset. Conventional nuclear plants are at this point obsolete and very, very expensive to build. Cost is pretty much the number one thing stopping nuclear, as they're expensive to build and expensive to maintain. Not only that, they don't follow load very well, so if demand plummets, you're now overproducing a very expensive source of power.

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Based on the findings that emerged from this study, we contend that, as of today and for decades to come, the main value of nuclear energy lies in its potential contribution to decarbonizing the power sector. Further, we conclude that cost is the main barrier to realizing this value. Without cost reductions, nuclear energy will not play a significant role.
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Hopefully SMR's can change this by driving costs down via copy pasting the same smaller plant over and over again.
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