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      03-27-2018, 04:59 PM   #67
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https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...5-Dyno-Results

535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
What downpipe did you get?
Got the AR Design Catted Downpipe. Don't want that fuel smell.... and don't want car too loud. Want it respectable.... Expensive but Very happy I went this way. Not a huge difference in performance loss going Catted either.
Does it pass ca smog?
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535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
What downpipe did you get?
Got the AR Design Catted Downpipe. Don't want that fuel smell.... and don't want car too loud. Want it respectable.... Expensive but Very happy I went this way. Not a huge difference in performance loss going Catted either.
Does it pass ca smog?
I'm in NJ but don't expect it to pass. 50/50 chance
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Cool!! I doubt it will pass in ca
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535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
Love this write up. I have the Mission Performance Stage One Ecu Tune and am going Stage 2 now if I can only get Alex to reply. Your write up convinced me this is the way to go and I am very happy with current Stage One Tune. Very Excited for Stage Two Now as well (big smile).
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
I have MP stage 2, how are you logging info?
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
I have MP stage 2, how are you logging info?
Data log or 1/4 mile times ?

Dragy 1/4 mile times (very accurate)
Data Logging with an MHD datalogger.

What are your Stage 2 times ? What model car too?
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I don't have any measurements info of the car. Car is 2013 535i with PS 1 turbo, Wagner intercooler, charge pipe, high flow inlet & outlet for turbo, Upgraded Diverter valve. So I may get MHD data logger.
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I don't have any measurements info of the car. Car is 2013 535i with PS 1 turbo, Wagner intercooler, charge pipe, high flow inlet & outlet for turbo, Upgraded Diverter valve. So I may get MHD data logger.
I cannot believe u have not been data logging.
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I don't have any measurements info of the car. Car is 2013 535i with PS 1 turbo, Wagner intercooler, charge pipe, high flow inlet & outlet for turbo, Upgraded Diverter valve. So I may get MHD data logger.
I cannot believe u have not been data logging.
I know and for that reason I may switch to BM3 or MHD flash. Car runs perfect on Mission performance 2, no codes or issues at all, whatsoever. Why did you switch to MP 2?
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
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I don't have any measurements info of the car. Car is 2013 535i with PS 1 turbo, Wagner intercooler, charge pipe, high flow inlet & outlet for turbo, Upgraded Diverter valve. So I may get MHD data logger.
I cannot believe u have not been data logging.
I know and for that reason I may switch to BM3 or MHD flash. Car runs perfect on Mission performance 2, no codes or issues at all, whatsoever. Why did you switch to MP 2?
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I finally got a hold of Alex at Mission Performance. Got my Stage 2 Map and loaded it. My Logs look Real Clean so far. Just ordered Wagner FMIC and Remus Exhaust. May try and get Alex at MP to Crank it up a bit afterwards. Do u know what your 0-60mph and 1/4mile times were on Stage 2 ? Wondering where i should be performance wise.... Fully Stock i was at 14.3sec 1/4mile and 0-60mph Stock was 6.1sec. STOCK with No Launch Control in any of those runs (Dragy). .....I am just wondering where i should be at on Stage 2. Thanks a bunch !!!
back to Mission Performance?
I cannot decide which tune to use. Mission Perdormance runs the smoothest and has the cleanest logs and feels like it is finely tuned ...but it's not the fastest. Bootmod3 has the best support and is the fastest but feels very Raw...BM3 also has a slider option for burbles - cold start on/off- burble length- burble aggressiveness - etc. where I can adjust all options to my liking. So I am kinda torn in between the two tunes.
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