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      02-09-2011, 06:09 AM   #45
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Not sure of my specific dealer's level of expertise with this engine. At this point, it is clear they are 'dead in the water' and waiting on guidance from Germany. Appearently, the regional field engineer is on vacation this week and my dealer is working directly with Germany (they are likely just waiting for the this guy to come back).

I am assuming this will never really get resolved and eventually they will do some type of buyback (either due to me pursuing lemon law once I reach criteria or they will give up). I realize it may take awhile. Major bummer, as I was pretty excited to be in a near new F10 550 sport @ around $20k under MSRP. Unless they can get it fixed, it was obviously not so great of a deal. On the more positive side, I have only had to make a single trip to the dealer
Mate they just may have to put a new Engine in it now that would be good.
Hold on a bit longer.
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      02-09-2011, 06:30 AM   #46
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Given I purchased used, does that have an impact on whether I will be offered a buyback or the quality of offer I may receive? I am keenly aware I am approaching the criteria for lemon law in my state. Any advice from this community would be much appreciated.
You really need to read up on the laws in MN, since they vary by state. Here in NC, I know that the lemon law applies only to the original purchaser of a new car.

Now - that shouldn't have too much impact on a BMW buyback, but just keep in mind that you may not have the lemon law to fall back on if negotiations fall apart. And they may not know that, so keep it to yourself. They (BMW) would prefer a buyback because that doesn't show on the title and they'll have an easier time selling the car.

I can't help but wonder if your car was already a buyback once already?

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted.
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      02-09-2011, 07:25 AM   #47
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You really need to read up on the laws in MN, since they vary by state. Here in NC, I know that the lemon law applies only to the original purchaser of a new car.

Now - that shouldn't have too much impact on a BMW buyback, but just keep in mind that you may not have the lemon law to fall back on if negotiations fall apart. And they may not know that, so keep it to yourself. They (BMW) would prefer a buyback because that doesn't show on the title and they'll have an easier time selling the car.

I can't help but wonder if your car was already a buyback once already?

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted.
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My understanding is a buyback would clearly show in BMW service records. That is not the case, although it was in for 3 service visits within the first 5000 miles. If they don't offer a buyback, I assume they would need to continue trying to fix the car. I guess I'll just keep driving the loaner for the next 3.5 years if needed.
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My understanding is a buyback would clearly show in BMW service records.
I don't see why. It's not a service, it's something between BMW N.A. and you. Or maybe the dealer will buy it back (that's happened to me once as well) in which case BMW N.A. wouldn't even know about it.
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Engine malfunction, Reduce power

Count me in on the problem list. Only 7000 miles on car. Two service centers, 10 days, no car. Not even a loaner
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      03-04-2011, 06:40 PM   #51
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Got my car back today and light did not come on yet but I can feel there is still an issue. If I drive faster than 60, the car shakes. Time to lemon.
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I don't see why. It's not a service, it's something between BMW N.A. and you. Or maybe the dealer will buy it back (that's happened to me once as well) in which case BMW N.A. wouldn't even know about it.
Buyback cars usually need to be labeled as such, depending on state.
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Hi All,
Took delivery 7/26/10. Obeyed the break-in rules obsessively and am an all-around fairly conservative driver.
8,400 miles and Car "bings" and says "Engine Malfunction: Reduced Power. Engine restart not possible after stop. Drive directly to the nearest BMW Service Center or stop safely and call BMW Assist."
I obeyed it and drove straight there. The advisor was doubtful and told me it was probably just a problem with the remote control. He shut it off, and found out that the car was not lying...restart was not possible.
This was Thursday morning, and in the normal BMW shroud of secrecy i've been told very little, and that a motor related to the cam shaft was likely the issue and the part would be here Tuesday and they would want to keep it to drive for a few days after that.
An entire week? I don't have a good feeling. Anyone else heard of/experienced this?
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My 2011 535I gave me the "engine malfunction, loss of power, no restart after stop" message at 7700 miles. Took it in they kept it overnight, said they had to reboot the computer. This morning at 5:45 a.m. on the interstate at 9,000 miles I got the same message. Took it back in. SA says there is a technical bulletin out that says to "reboot the computer" but since that has already been done, they will have to check with BMW for further advice. Meanwhile, since they were out of their own loaner cars, I'm driving a Toyota Corolla from Enterprise. This is my first BMW. So far, I'm not impressed.
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I'd like for some 535i owners that has driven around or more than 8400 miles and has not had this problem to post here, just to balance things up. This thread makes me nervous. :/
My '11 535i had a minor vacuum leak at 10k (reduced power mode), it's now with 22k and still running strong (knock on wood).
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My 2011 535i Prod date 7/2010 displayed the Engine Malfunction message two days ago. I took it to the dealer before turning off the engine. They looked at it yesterday and said they needed to reload the software this morning. I don't know if BMW has upgraded the software or not. In limp home mode I was able to slowly get it up to 90mph, with reduced acceleration. SA didn't have a clue.
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My 2011 535i Prod date 7/2010 displayed the Engine Malfunction message two days ago. I took it to the dealer before turning off the engine. They looked at it yesterday and said they needed to reload the software this morning. I don't know if BMW has upgraded the software or not. In limp home mode I was able to slowly get it up to 90mph, with reduced acceleration. SA didn't have a clue.
New software from BMW was loaded, taking 4.5 hours. SA claimed there was a problem with the valves in the 8speed tranny.

Report: Customer states engine malfunction reduced power warning came on. "Engine will not restart" came up as well. Check and report.
Ck fault mem FC 135604 is stored. Run test plan for Valvetronic. Stated to reprogram car DC D1214 B000000000 90 212 reprogram car inc CAS. Run 2nd fault survey and clear transport mode and initialize seats. Test Drive - OK.


535i seems to be ok now, although I had to reprogram the seat memory settings, both driver and passenger. Mileage 20475. Sport automatic. Delivered in Munich on ED in Sept 2010.
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Well I guess I will drive my Acura for another year as I was going to buy a new 5 series, but do not want to plop down $65K for a reliability headache.

I really love the design and features of the new BMW, but they have a long history of being a pain in the ass to own.
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I had another problem with the 11 535i. I had a cooler in the car that drew some power while stopped. This evidently degraded the charge in the battery somewhat. Five days later, I got a message that said that the battery was not charging. I used a battery charger that overnight got it back to normal, but two days later the same message came on, along with the engine malfunction message that it could not be restarted. I drove immediately to the dealer who kept it overnight, did a test and found that power had been taken from the battery for 30 minutes a week before. They reset the error code and charged me $50 for the privilege.

There is no way to reset the error code (that I know of), so, if you are in Montana with no dealers, the car will have to be flat bedded out of Montana, probably to Calgary, to get the error code reset.

There is a lesson to be learned. Never have any device connected to the power while the car is not running. And never buy another BMW.

I'll be picking up my Audi S5 in Ingolstadt in three weeks.
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