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06-12-2012, 08:27 PM | #23 | |
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Original poster here. It was late at night, and that stretch of the road is 4 lanes, narrowing to three. The offender was in the left lane for the whole time. I was in the right lane, and there were no other cars around. FWIW, here in Massachusetts, there are now signs that point out that travel in the passing lane is illegal. It was great to see it enforced. And it's not an isolated incident. Another of my friends was in the left lane, and he got pulled over. The cop gave him a warning (nice of him), but he also was really mad and yelled at him (which I think was unnecessary). OTOH, my friend now doesn't hog the left lane. (One less Ford SUV blocking traffic!)
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I did my own time keeping today and I must say that 2 seconds is exaggerated. I would say 1 second should be enough, you'll still have enough reaction time as long as you look ahead to see what's happening in front of the guy driving in front of you. Maybe the 2 seconds are necessary for the average American driver who's talking on the cellphone pressed against the ear with the shoulder, and holding an iced coffee cup on the other hand while still managing to drive at 70 mph in the highway? (j/k) |
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In Europe no one hogs the left lane, it just doesn't normally happen because it is encoded in our mindset that you cannot just stay in the left lane. As a result, drivers on the left lane are normally very focused while they are there and react quickly. I would assume that I would have to adopt a different behavior in the US but here in Europe one second is enough as long as you don't hog the left lane. |
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06-14-2012, 07:11 AM | #29 |
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The signs are beginning to appear on more highways. I have seen them around Boston. I believe it was on Route 128/95 south of Boston. You say you drive 75 in the passing lane around Boston? I think you know that is middle lane speed for most cars. Making a faster car go around you to the right is not a safe thing to do. It is also interesting to me that when I am coming up I93 from Boston to New Hampshire you often see a long line of left lane hogs going 65 to 75 and this line can stretch to 30 or more vehicles. The odd thing is that the far right lane is often empty and that becomes the only way to get around this long line. A BMW can accelerate quickly enough to get around this moving roadblock, but it is not the optimum way to do this as cars do enter and exit the highway from this lane.
I have noticed lately that left lane hogs are beginning to pull back into the travel lane more often. There are still the obstinent drivers who have chosen a speed, let's say, of 75 miles per hour, as the appropriate allowable speed and will not move over for anyone (except more frequently now the police) but they are putting other vehicles at risk as other drivers who may choose 77 miles per hour as their cruising speed. Drivers should pass and then pull back into the travel lane. It is the law. Going 75 is speeding as much as 80 is. It will allow for safe passing for all vehicles. That is why the police are begining to pay more attention to this safety hazard. |
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06-14-2012, 07:42 AM | #30 | |
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06-14-2012, 08:21 AM | #31 | |
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In the US, everyone makes their own rules and think they are right. The "flow of traffic" should be in the travel lanes only. I understand that everyone does what you say, but that doesn't make it right. |
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06-14-2012, 01:09 PM | #34 | |
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I get it now. If you want to drive at the speed of traffic you get into the far left lane on a multilane highway and stay in that lane for as long as you like. You do not let other drivers pass you because you are going fast enough. If they really want to pass you they should weave in and out of the other three lanes on the highway.
I see your point. It also illustrates my prior post that often the far right lane is often empty on these three and four lane roads. Thank you for making me understand the rationale of these drivers who don't move over to let faster cars go by. I always thought it was a conscious decision by these drivers to not let anyone pass them. That is why I never bother to come up behind such a driver, and if I do approach them I am usually in the travel lane and just keep going right past them. They don't seem to mind and at least they don't do what people often did twenty or more years ago which was to abruptly pull into the right lane if anyone tried to pass them on the right. I have had this happen in Vermont and Maine where there was only two lanes. That has always been one of my concerns when passing on the right that someone would cut me off. That is why I often go over another lane to the right to avoid that possibility, especially if I am on my motorcycle. So X Men I guess it is good that you don't feel threatened by someone passing you on the right. I have noticed that no one is bothered by that anymore in the metropolitan areas. Be careful in the countryside. |
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06-15-2012, 12:54 PM | #36 |
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kirbyj settle down my friend, you sound like you are going to have a heart attack. You probably drive like you write post on forums.
Like I said before, if the right lanes are empty, I usually travel in the right lane. If there is traffic, I use the left lane as a travel lane like everybody else. What I cannot stand is drivers who tailgate me in the left lane when there is traffic and I am going with the flow of traffic. |
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06-16-2012, 02:34 PM | #38 |
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They have them in several places on the Mass Pike, including near the State Police barracks in Weston. I also saw one on Route 3 on my way to the Cape this morning. They're not fixed signs -- they're on the signs that flash variable messages.
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Thats why there is no lane morale here in California, people driving slightly or at speed limit thinks they're entitled to the left lane. Even when I'm driving 80, when I see somebody coming up behind me then I just move over. If they want to get a ticket that's up to them. If I dont want to move over then I'll get on the gas, that's my problem if I get cited.
If you dont want to drive fast(er) then get out of the way. You're not doing anyone a favor by blocking or impeding the traffic. |
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If someone is coming up faster than you, get out of the way. It doesn't matter how fast YOU are going.
Passing on the right is illegal, if you are in the way and in the left lane (especially the farthest most left), you need to GTFO of the way.
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In Norway the rule is 3 seconds, and the reason is to make sure you don't collide with the car in front of you, if he needs to panic breake. Really simple really, why do you want to push this few seconds? Will you arrive 2 seconds earlier at destination :-) Have a look here http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html So in verry best case, you will have 0,3 seconds to not hit the car infront of you if they panic breake, again why is this important ? |
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06-18-2012, 08:28 AM | #44 | |
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The situation I am talking about is when there is a line of cars in the left lane all going about 10 to 15 MPH above the speed limit. Some A hole decided that he wants to go faster somehow and tailgates me. Am I suppose to move over to the right lane and let him go 10 feet in front of me in the line of car and then I can get back on the left lane after that drive behind him? |
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