[Moopai]

Does any of the members have these wheels installed on their F10s? If you do, could you please post a photo? Thanks

[RNGSoCal]

check this link out... has pic of F10 with it

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newfo...unchen-wheels/

[Moopai]

Thanks for the link but interested in pictures that are more on an angel to see how flushed the wheels are!

Originally Posted by RNGF10

check this link out... has pic of F10 with it

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newfo...unchen-wheels/

[Moopai]

No one has these wheels on their F10! If you do, please share pics. Thanks

Originally Posted by Moopai

Thanks for the link but interested in pictures that are more on an angel to see how flushed the wheels are!

[cdmulders]

Try these pics. Kelleners wheels have now caught my attention too. Thanks.

http://www.kelleners-sport.com/en/gallery.php?objId=13

Originally Posted by Moopai

No one has these wheels on their F10! If you do, please share pics. Thanks

[Noggie]

I have looked at these but the size and offsets will not give an aggressive or flush look without spacers.
they only come in 19" and 20", not 21".
I found that to use the 8,5" front which only come in 47mm offset, you need a 20mm spacer up front.
The 10" rears come with 40mm offset, so you will need at least a 5mm spacer to make them flush.

So I pretty much decided against them as I dont want to run with spacers, and I wanted 21's.
Pitty as the wheels look really great.

[Moopai]

Agreed! Beautiful wheels and aggressive looking. Too bad that you need spacers. I don't like the idea of using spacers in the front!

So does that mean they are using spacers in the above pictures link? The wheels are almost flushed!

Originally Posted by Noggie

I have looked at these but the size and offsets will not give an aggressive or flush look without spacers.
they only come in 19" and 20", not 21".
I found that to use the 8,5" front which only come in 47mm offset, you need a 20mm spacer up front.
The 10" rears come with 40mm offset, so you will need at least a 5mm spacer to make them flush.

So I pretty much decided against them as I dont want to run with spacers, and I wanted 21's.
Pitty as the wheels look really great.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by Moopai

Agreed! Beautiful wheels and aggressive looking. Too bad that you need spacers. I don't like the idea of using spacers in the front!

So does that mean they are using spacers in the above pictures link? The wheels are almost flushed!

Just looks like the wheels are photoshopped on.

[Noggie]

Their website shop says you get spacers and longer bolts with the front wheels, though they don't specify the spacer size.
with the 47mm wheel offset, I guess its a 15mm spacer as this brings the offset to 32, and stock offset is 33. depending on how flush you want them a 20 or 25mm spacer will get you to 27 and 22 respectively, and I believe some users on the forum has gone as low as 20 or 22mm on 8,5" fronts.

The rear with 40mm offset does not come with spacers, but those who run flush 10" rears have an offset of 35mm or less, so 5, 7 or 10mm spacers is needed to get them flush.

their München forged you can get in 9"x21 offset 32mm, and 10x21 offset 40mm, but the design is slightly different, and I don't like them as much as the other ones.
These will fit just like the regular München with 20mm spacer up front as they are 9" wide, and may still need the same rear spacers.

[Moopai]

Thanks for the detailed feed back. Too bad, they don't have the proper offset for a flush or more aggressive look! It's pretty stupid that Kellener designed them that way!

Originally Posted by Noggie

Their website shop says you get spacers and longer bolts with the front wheels, though they don't specify the spacer size.
with the 47mm wheel offset, I guess its a 15mm spacer as this brings the offset to 32, and stock offset is 33. depending on how flush you want them a 20 or 25mm spacer will get you to 27 and 22 respectively, and I believe some users on the forum has gone as low as 20 or 22mm on 8,5" fronts.

The rear with 40mm offset does not come with spacers, but those who run flush 10" rears have an offset of 35mm or less, so 5, 7 or 10mm spacers is needed to get them flush.

their München forged you can get in 9"x21 offset 32mm, and 10x21 offset 40mm, but the design is slightly different, and I don't like them as much as the other ones.
These will fit just like the regular München with 20mm spacer up front as they are 9" wide, and may still need the same rear spacers.

[Noggie]

I guess they are probably designed for the 3 series, possibly the e90.
Most 3 series have a front offset around 43mm on 7,5" wheels, 47mm on 8,5" may be correct for them. My old e46 m3 had 47mm front on stock wheels.

Since the München Forged have an offset more suited to our cars, and hou can have them in 21", I guess they are angled for the larger cars like the 5 and 7, and the regular München for medium cars like the 3 and 4 series.

But yes, a huge pitty you cant get them with a 27mm offset front and 35mm rear without using spacers.

[cdmulders]

These wheels caught my attention when this thread kicked off in 2014. I am pleased to report that these very same wheels are now mine and that they will be mounted when I remove my winter wheels in about a month. I am trying this staggered setup with the Michelin PSS non-runflats on my xDrive using the recommended 245/40/19 and 275/35/19 tires. The wheel dimensions are as previously noted:
19 x 8.5 ET 47 (front)
19 x 9.5 ET 35 (rear)

I purchased them as a package directly from Kelleners that included the required 15mm wheel spacers & longer bolts for the front wheels and all tires mounted and balanced.

I was initially concerned that the concavity with the 47mm offset for the front wheels would be too 'flat'. Visually comparing the 19 x 18.5 ET 47 wheels with my OEM 351M 19x8.5 ET 33 wheels, the concavity looks to be about the same, which was a mild surprise. What is remarkably different is the thickness of the wheel's hub that mounts to the car - the Kelleners appears to be about 15mm thinner, so the overall concavity appears the same as the OEM 351M. The bonus is that the rear wheel concavity is considerably more than my OEM, which makes sense given both the thinner hub and the wider wheel.

I just weighed OEM+Goodyear RFT and Kelleners+PSS wheel & tire combos for front & rear:
Weight (wheel & tire):
OEM (front & rear): 60 lbs each
Kelleners front (w/ spacer): 52 lbs each
Kelleners rear: 57 lbs each

I include here comparison pictures of one front and one rear wheel. Cheers.

[cdmulders]

Kellener's 19" Munich wheels (8.5" in front, 9.5" in rear) were installed yesterday, and today I detailed the car. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I really like these wheels, and the tires (as many have already said) transform the car, for the better.

Cheers.

[.BMW.]

Looks great on F10.

[Bbb34]

Looks great.

[lsturbointeg]

Almost looks like the M5 wheels but fatter or thicker

[cdmulders]

Originally Posted by .BMW.

Looks great on F10.

Originally Posted by Bbb34

Looks great.

Thanks. Added benefits are that these wheels are easy to clean and weigh less than OEM. I also like the finish on the outward facing sides of the spokes because they are polished. They contrast quite nicely with carbon black.

I was concerned that the front spacers that are required could induce vibration at speed, but found when installing them that they are an exact fit. I can also confirm that there is absolutely no vibration up to 160 kph (100 mph). I think an autobahn run is in my near future.

I'm also really enjoying the enhanced ride of the non run-flat tires, but I did get a can of fix-a-flat just in case.