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      01-30-2014, 04:13 PM   #1
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Problems with NBT Retrofit

Hey guys,
I need help with F10 (2010) vfl with nbt retrofit. I installed the nbt with a original manual from bmw "Cic to nbt", so wiring is 100% ok!

I also installed Kombi FPK and new Zgw without MOST for different K-Can Speed.

Timestamp was set to 1207,1303,1311,1403... i tried all timestamps but Acc, Dcc and Lim dont work.......????? I dont know why????

Some ideas?

Thx a lot

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Modellbezeichnung:	530d
Ausführung:	Europa
Typschlüssel:	FW51
E-Code:	F10
Karosserie:	Limousine
Lenkung:	links
Türen:	4
Motor:	N57D30O0 - 3,00l (180kW)
Antrieb:	Heckantrieb
Getriebe:	automatisch
Außenfarbe:	Havanna Metallic (A17)
Innenraum:	Leder Dakota/df Venetobeige (LCDF)
Produktionsdatum:	30.07.2010
Werk:	Dingolfing
 
Code	Serienausstattung	Standard Equipment
S1CDA
Brake Energy Regeneration	Brake Energy Regeneration
S548A
Kilometertacho	Kilometer-calibrated speedometer
S851A
Sprachversion deutsch	Language version German
Code	Sonderausstattung	Optional Equipment
S1CBA
CO2 Umfang	CO2 package
S205A
Automatikgetriebe	Automatic transmission
S230A
Zusatzumfang EU-spezifisch	Extra package, EU-specific
S255A
Sport-Lederlenkrad Airbag	Sports leather steering wheel
S258A
Bereifung mit Notlaufeigenschaften	Tire with run-flat functionality
S2K2A
BMW LM Rad V-Speiche 328	BMW LA wheel, V Spoke 328
S2VHA
Integral-Aktivlenkung	Integral active steering
S302A
Alarmanlage	Alarm system
S316A
Automatische Heckklappenbetätigung	automatic trunk lid mechanism
S320A
Entfall Modellschriftzug	Deleted, model lettering
S358A
Klimakomfort-Frontscheibe	Climate comfort windscreen
S415A
Sonnenschutzrollo hinten	Sun-blind, rear
S416A
Sonnenschutzrollo hinten/seitlich	Roller sun vizor, rear lateral
S423A
Fussmatten Velours	Floor mats, velours
S428A
Warndreieck und Verbandstasche	Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A
Innen-/Aussensp. mit Abblendautomatik	Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A
Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend	Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S453A
Klimatisierte Sitze vorne	Climatised fornt seats
S456A
Komfortsitz mit Memory	Comfort seat with memory
S465A
Durchladesystem	Through-loading system
S488A
Lordosenstütze Fahrer u. Beifahrer	Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A
Sitzheizung Fahrer/Beifahrer	Seat heating driver/passenger
S4B5A
Edelholzausf. Esche Maser hochglänzend	Fine wood ash grain, high-gloss
S4NBA
Klimaautomatik mit 4-Zonenregelung	Autom. climate control with 4-zone ctrl
S502A
Scheinwerferreinigungsanlage	Headlight cleaning system
S508A
Park Distance Control (PDC)	Park Distance Control (PDC)
S522A
Xenon-Licht	Xenon Light
S524A
Adaptives Kurvenlicht	Adaptive Headlights
S5ACA
Fernlichtassistent	High-beam assistant
S5AGA
Spurwechselwarnung	Lane-change warning
S5DFA
Aktive Geschw.regelung+Stop&Go Funktion	Active cruise control+Stop&Go function
S5DPA
Parkassistent	Park Assistent
S609A
Navigationssystem Professional	Navigation system Professional
S610A
Head-Up Display	Head-up display
S612A
BMW Assist	BMW Assist
S614A
Internet Vorbereitung	Internet, preparations
S615A
Erweiterte BMW Online Information	Expanded BMW Online Information
S616A
BMW Online	BMW Online
S620A
Spracheingabe	Voice control
S633A
Vorbereitung Handy Business	Preparation, mobile phone, Business
S677A
HiFi System Professional DSP	HiFi System Professional DSP
S698A
Area-Code 2 für DVD	Area-Code 2 for DVD
S6AAA
BMW TeleServices	BMW TeleServices
S6ABA
Steuerung Teleservices	Control for Teleservices
S6FLA
USB-/Audio-Schnittstelle	USB/Audio interface
S6NFA
Musik-Schnittstelle für Smartphone	Music interface for Smartphone
S761A
Individual Sonnenschutzverglasung	Individual sunshade glazing
P7A2A
Innovationspaket II	Innovation Package II
S7SPA
Navi Professional/Handyvorber. Bluetooth	Nav Professional/cellph. prep. Bluetooth
L801A
Länderausführung Deutschland	National Version Germany
S850A
Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export	Additional Export tank filling
S863A
Händlerverzeichnis Europa	Retailer Directory Europe
S879A
Bordliteratur deutsch	On-board vehicle literature German
S8KAA
Ölwartungsinterval 30.000km/24Monate	Oil-maintenance interval - 24 months/30,000 km
S8SCA
Freischaltung Telematik länderspez.	Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8TFA
Aktiver Fussgängerschutz	Active pedestrian protection
S8THA
SPEED LIMIT INFO	SPEED LIMIT INFO
S8V1A
Hinweisschild	Label
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      10-13-2014, 02:52 PM   #2
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Hi xTReeM..

Do you please want to share the CIC to NBT manual you mentioned?


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      11-27-2014, 09:05 AM   #3
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Sorry... I´m not allowed to share as its a bmw internal document ...
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      12-15-2014, 06:01 PM   #4
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I also have tried to install NBT on my car. Finally I give up, there are many works to do including wiring and coding too. If anyone is interested I have a full set of NBT unit except the wiring , I am willing to sell you. Thanks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xTReeM View Post
Hey guys,
I need help with F10 (2010) vfl with nbt retrofit. I installed the nbt with a original manual from bmw "Cic to nbt", so wiring is 100% ok!

I also installed Kombi FPK and new Zgw without MOST for different K-Can Speed.

Timestamp was set to 1207,1303,1311,1403... i tried all timestamps but Acc, Dcc and Lim dont work.......????? I dont know why????
I have installed the same in my 2011 f11, you cannot use the new ZGW as Flexray will not initialise with old ICM, new ICM requires new DSC so becomes really expensive, I used old ZGW & spliced new CAN2 wires from CAS to NBT & New Touch Controller.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smercki View Post
Whit old zwg (in metal case) nbt work fine but some of the radio buttons do not work, MODE, EJECT, ON / OFF RADIO ect
You find the solution?
Cool!!

Then try
HU_NBT => FBM_SELECTION = eight_buttons


By the way.. how did you get the old ZGW to work with NBT?
where did you get K-Can2 from?
Did you flashed the old ZGW to get it to work?

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      06-26-2015, 06:47 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by xTReeM View Post
Hey guys,
I need help with F10 (2010) vfl with nbt retrofit. I installed the nbt with a original manual from bmw "Cic to nbt", so wiring is 100% ok!

I also installed Kombi FPK and new Zgw without MOST for different K-Can Speed.

Timestamp was set to 1207,1303,1311,1403... i tried all timestamps but Acc, Dcc and Lim dont work.......????? I dont know why????
I have installed the same in my 2011 f11, you cannot use the new ZGW as Flexray will not initialise with old ICM, new ICM requires new DSC so becomes really expensive, I used old ZGW & spliced new CAN2 wires from CAS to NBT & New Touch Controller.
How did you learn all of this?
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