About to order my first BMW!

MickyD'bo · 02-10-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xs2man

Erm... I dunno? It's mine. Is that wrong somehow then? It's meant to be an LCI with Sports Auto...

Well I spec'd sport auto but was told that on LCI that just means paddles. The gear shifter on LCI (i was informed) is just the long thin lance. Not that there's much wrong with that

I'd just be happier with proper sports auto with stubby selector?

accordRE · 02-10-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbo9

Well I spec'd sport auto but was told that on LCI that just means paddles. The gear shifter on LCI (i was informed) is just the long thin lance. Not that there's much wrong with that

I'd just be happier with proper sports auto with stubby selector?

The sport auto is still available just not on 518's and 520's, lci 525's 530's and so on still get the "sport auto".

MickyD'bo · 02-10-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by accordRE

The sport auto is still available just not on 518's and 520's, lci 525's 530's and so on still get the "sport auto".

I knew there was a reason to get the 530.

MickyD'bo · 02-10-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by accordRE

The sport auto is still available just not on 518's and 520's, lci 525's 530's and so on still get the "sport auto".

Is there any way to retro fit this?

xs2man · 02-10-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbo9

I knew there was a reason to get the 530.

That and the free upgrade to Pro Nav, free Ambient lighting, better residual and extra dealer contribution, meant it was a no brainer, and cost me very little extra overall.

MickyD'bo · 02-10-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xs2man

That and the free upgrade to Pro Nav, free Ambient lighting, better residual and extra dealer contribution, meant it was a no brainer, and cost me very little extra overall.

accordRE · 02-10-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbo9

Is there any way to retro fit this?

Yeah there is, I got a bit upset when I found out you can't have the LCI with the sport shifter but came across a swap on here in the american section. Because they're both electronic units you can just swap them straight out but I think you may have to code it.

accordRE · 02-10-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xs2man

That and the free upgrade to Pro Nav, free Ambient lighting, better residual and extra dealer contribution, meant it was a no brainer, and cost me very little extra overall.

So does the 530 come with pro nav free? or did you dealer give you a free upgrade to pro.

xs2man · 02-10-2014, 03:55 PM

Can't say for sure if it was BMW or my dealer, but it cost me nowt.

I was an extra £40 per month to go 530d instead of 520d. But then I was speccing ambient lighting and Pro Nav on the 520d anyway. But then again, I did scoop a 20% discount in the deal, with an extra £800 onto my part-ex and the 5 year servicing thrown in too.

There was sooooo much going on in the final deal, it was difficult to say who was giving me what. I just got the numbers to work for me.

Piers · 02-10-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by accordRE

Yeah there is, I got a bit upset when I found out you can't have the LCI with the sport shifter but came across a swap on here in the american section. Because they're both electronic units you can just swap them straight out but I think you may have to code it.

I was disappointed too, and thought about the swap initially, but as it turns out the wand is a lovely thing to use, much better than the same wand I hand in my E60. The E60 had a lot more lateral movement, whereas the F10 is accurate and distinct in movement and nicely sprung.

remmib · 02-11-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dobbo9

How is that 2nd pic an LCI but with the sport auto stubby gear selector?

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Originally Posted by xs2man

Erm... I dunno? It's mine. Is that wrong somehow then? It's meant to be an LCI with Sports Auto...

I think the point is that you can't get the sport auto on the LCI 518/520 as you could on the 520 pre-LCI.

MickyD'bo · 02-11-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

I think the point is that you can't get the sport auto on the LCI 518/520 as you could on the 520 pre-LCI.

:mad0 260:

phil_14 · 02-14-2014, 11:44 AM

Looking to order a F10 520d, can anyone advise a decent dealer with a good rate of discount??

Currently, a local garage is set to charge £700 just for delivering the car to the showroom...is this normal ??

accordRE · 02-14-2014, 12:00 PM

Phil, on my invoice it does say that delivery charge is £700 but its all covered in the list price you will be given.

You can get a good deal with a little pushing but a brilliant deal will take that much more effort. I was disappointed that I could get as big a discount as some others on here but for me it was just good enough.

If I remember correctly Balster managed £27k on a base 520d auto at Stratstone, I could only push my dealer to 31k with the auto before options.

Balster · 02-14-2014, 12:04 PM

pm sent Phil.

Piers · 02-14-2014, 01:12 PM

Yep £700 delivery is normal, and within OTR price.

NigeNige · 02-14-2014, 02:12 PM

Phil,
I would be very interested to hear an honest the result of your negotiation for a 520d. I have tried to achieve the levels indicated in the forum by approaching many different dealers. However it seems to me the best you can achieve is a similar discount offered with a Broadspeed quote. This is between 13% and 15% on the list price. Achieving 20% seems to be day dream. Or may be I'm a useless negotiator !
Nigel

accordRE · 02-14-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwestlak

Phil,
I would be very interested to hear an honest the result of your negotiation for a 520d. I have tried to achieve the levels indicated in the forum by approaching many different dealers. However it seems to me the best you can achieve is a similar discount offered with a Broadspeed quote. This is between 13% and 15% on the list price. Achieving 20% seems to be day dream. Or may be I'm a useless negotiator !
Nigel

I'm the same, I'm feeling a bit annoyed as I only found the discounts that others were getting (and started thinking how many options I could have added for 5k), however at the end of the day, I did pay what I was happy to pay at a spec level I am happy with and in a months time I'll be driving my 5 series and that's enough for me!

nordberg · 02-15-2014, 02:56 AM

I'd suggest anyone struggling to get at least 20% discount should approach some third part funders - Network/Leaseplan/Lex etc.

I got roughly 23% discount on a 330d F31 before Christmas. BMW could get nowhere near..... I got the finance details via a broker for Network and took them to my local dealer who then organized everything else. The end result was that I took delivery of my car from my local BMW dealer and to all intents and purposes, it was just as though I'd bought the car direct from BMW themselves. The dealer told me they made nothing on the car but they got points from BMW for shifting a car.

I'm not sure about the discounts on the 5 Series at the moment, but this has to be worth a try....

xs2man · 02-15-2014, 03:31 AM

I personally went about it a slightly different way.

I got a Drive The Deal quote on an Audi A6, then took that to an Audi dealer and they matched it (I was looking at either an A6 or 5 series to be fair, and DTD were doing the best discounts).

I then took the Audi Dealer quote to my local BMW dealer and told them to sell me the BMW. So in order to do this, they had to spec the 5 as close to the spec of the Audi as they could, and get the numbers as close as they could. This was on the 2.0D's mind you, and they did very well. Then when I changed engine to the 3.0D and got extra contribution and spec for free, it came out at around 20% discount on list.

Basically, I pushed them as far as I could on the standard car, then after that, pushed them on the spec also. At the very end, I added £1600 of spec for less than £1k. They had worked so hard to sell me a reasonably well speced 5 that by that time I think they had given up just to get the sale, lol.

Welshman · 02-18-2014, 10:36 PM

I went about it a slightly different way in that a dealer will always prefer to sell you a car he has sitting in the showroom. So I popped down to my dealer of choice - Cotswold in Gloucester who have sold me 2 bikes and my current 530d Touring - after phoning and finding that they had a 535d MSport Touring in the showroom with virtually the spec I'd want anyway. With the BMW contribution of £4,500 and a further >10% from them plus a decent price on the 530 I had a deal which was acceptable.

Beancounter_74 · 02-19-2014, 01:52 AM

Welshman - you've sort of said it, but the main thing in all of this is getting the deal for 'you' regardless of what % are being bandied around.
If the price offered is agreeable to you the individual, then comparing it to what others have got is irrelevant.

02-10-2014, 03:55 PM	#75
xs2man Captain 18 Rep 618 Posts Drives: 2013 F11 530d M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Scotland iTrader: (2)	Can't say for sure if it was BMW or my dealer, but it cost me nowt. I was an extra £40 per month to go 530d instead of 520d. But then I was speccing ambient lighting and Pro Nav on the 520d anyway. But then again, I did scoop a 20% discount in the deal, with an extra £800 onto my part-ex and the 5 year servicing thrown in too. There was sooooo much going on in the final deal, it was difficult to say who was giving me what. I just got the numbers to work for me. __________________ 530d M-Sport Touring.
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phil_14 New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warwickshire iTrader: (0)	Looking to order a F10 520d, can anyone advise a decent dealer with a good rate of discount?? Currently, a local garage is set to charge £700 just for delivering the car to the showroom...is this normal ??
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accordRE Private First Class 7 Rep 181 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: . iTrader: (0)	Phil, on my invoice it does say that delivery charge is £700 but its all covered in the list price you will be given. You can get a good deal with a little pushing but a brilliant deal will take that much more effort. I was disappointed that I could get as big a discount as some others on here but for me it was just good enough. If I remember correctly Balster managed £27k on a base 520d auto at Stratstone, I could only push my dealer to 31k with the auto before options.
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Balster Captain 109 Rep 628 Posts Drives: BMW G30 530d MSport xDrive Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0)	pm sent Phil. __________________ G30 530d M Sport xdrive, Adaptive Drive and with all of the important options.
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Piers Captain 36 Rep 619 Posts Drives: 2017 F10 535d M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Sussex, UK iTrader: (0)	Yep £700 delivery is normal, and within OTR price. __________________ 2017 F10 535d MSport Auto - Mineral Grey - Oyster leather - 19" 351M's - Pro Media - Enhanced bluetooth - MSport rear spoiler - Sun protection glass - Harman Kardon Hifi - Multi Function Display - Ambient Lighting - Folding mirrors - Sunroof - LED adaptive headlights
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NigeNige Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 530D M Sport E60 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Phil, I would be very interested to hear an honest the result of your negotiation for a 520d. I have tried to achieve the levels indicated in the forum by approaching many different dealers. However it seems to me the best you can achieve is a similar discount offered with a Broadspeed quote. This is between 13% and 15% on the list price. Achieving 20% seems to be day dream. Or may be I'm a useless negotiator ! Nigel
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02-15-2014, 02:56 AM	#85
nordberg Major 178 Rep 1,470 Posts Drives: F31 330d M Sport Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (1)	I'd suggest anyone struggling to get at least 20% discount should approach some third part funders - Network/Leaseplan/Lex etc. I got roughly 23% discount on a 330d F31 before Christmas. BMW could get nowhere near..... I got the finance details via a broker for Network and took them to my local dealer who then organized everything else. The end result was that I took delivery of my car from my local BMW dealer and to all intents and purposes, it was just as though I'd bought the car direct from BMW themselves. The dealer told me they made nothing on the car but they got points from BMW for shifting a car. I'm not sure about the discounts on the 5 Series at the moment, but this has to be worth a try.... Last edited by nordberg; 02-15-2014 at 10:04 AM..
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xs2man Captain 18 Rep 618 Posts Drives: 2013 F11 530d M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Scotland iTrader: (2)	I personally went about it a slightly different way. I got a Drive The Deal quote on an Audi A6, then took that to an Audi dealer and they matched it (I was looking at either an A6 or 5 series to be fair, and DTD were doing the best discounts). I then took the Audi Dealer quote to my local BMW dealer and told them to sell me the BMW. So in order to do this, they had to spec the 5 as close to the spec of the Audi as they could, and get the numbers as close as they could. This was on the 2.0D's mind you, and they did very well. Then when I changed engine to the 3.0D and got extra contribution and spec for free, it came out at around 20% discount on list. Basically, I pushed them as far as I could on the standard car, then after that, pushed them on the spec also. At the very end, I added £1600 of spec for less than £1k. They had worked so hard to sell me a reasonably well speced 5 that by that time I think they had given up just to get the sale, lol. __________________ 530d M-Sport Touring.
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Welshman Private First Class 8 Rep 142 Posts Drives: BMW 535d Touring Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Near Bewdley, Worcestershire, UK iTrader: (0)	I went about it a slightly different way in that a dealer will always prefer to sell you a car he has sitting in the showroom. So I popped down to my dealer of choice - Cotswold in Gloucester who have sold me 2 bikes and my current 530d Touring - after phoning and finding that they had a 535d MSport Touring in the showroom with virtually the spec I'd want anyway. With the BMW contribution of £4,500 and a further >10% from them plus a decent price on the 530 I had a deal which was acceptable.
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02-19-2014, 01:52 AM	#88
Beancounter_74 Colonel 602 Rep 2,246 Posts Drives: M140i F20, 449i F33 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Essex iTrader: (0)	Welshman - you've sort of said it, but the main thing in all of this is getting the deal for 'you' regardless of what % are being bandied around. If the price offered is agreeable to you the individual, then comparing it to what others have got is irrelevant.
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