[Paoloveggie]

Ok. So I'm set on KW street comfort coilovers.

Wondering if I need a camber kit to normalize the camber. Another friend told me it's not camber but toe that I shold be worried about. My previous lowered ride suffered from inside tyre wear due to lowering springs and I'm keen to avoid that.

Im on 20s.

Advice appreciated.

[Boss330]

Most lowering kits come with instructions that the wheel adjustments needs to be checked and realigned after lowering. At least European kits with TÜV approvals do.

Normally you should be able to stay within the factory tolerances, without the need for aftermarket camber kits, as long as you lower between 20-40mm (or even 60mm in many cases).

I had my car at BMW after I put on my Eibach Pro Kit, They adjusted camber and toe to spec. My F10 has not had any wear issues on the inside of the rear tires, but my previous E60 did (and that was on factory M-Sport suspension...)

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Most lowering kits come with instructions that the wheel adjustments needs to be checked and realigned after lowering. At least European kits with TÜV approvals do.

Normally you should be able to stay within the factory tolerances, without the need for aftermarket camber kits, as long as you lower between 20-40mm (or even 60mm in many cases).

I had my car at BMW after I put on my Eibach Pro Kit, They adjusted camber and toe to spec. My F10 has not had any wear issues on the inside of the rear tires, but my previous E60 did (and that was on factory M-Sport suspension...)

I have had eibach pro kit installed and my garage has hunter.
They said that they have only one specification for SE / M sport.
Other specs were for M5.

What did you dealer say to you?

PS: On E9x, there was standard settings and then there was ZCP settings.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by makkan00

I have had eibach pro kit installed and my garage has hunter.
They said that they have only one specification for SE / M sport.
Other specs were for M5.

What did you dealer say to you?

PS: On E9x, there was standard settings and then there was ZCP settings.

I'm not sure if they said anything about that, but I will try to remember to look at data sheet I received from them afterwards and see what it says.

It was common that BMW (and other manufacturers) used to have a different spec for "sports suspension". Not sure if that is still true for the F10 though...

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by Boss330

I'm not sure if they said anything about that, but I will try to remember to look at data sheet I received from them afterwards and see what it says.

It was common that BMW (and other manufacturers) used to have a different spec for "sports suspension". Not sure if that is still true for the F10 though...

Thats is my point.
My garage with hunter tracking machine stated that SE and m sport have same settings for cars without variable suspension.
Then with variable suspension there is separate settings.
And last one for M5.

Would like to see photo of your settings...

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Thats is my point.
My garage with hunter tracking machine stated that SE and m sport have same settings for cars without variable suspension.
Then with variable suspension there is separate settings.
And last one for M5.

Would like to see photo of your settings...

Here is a photo of my wheel alignment sheet.

Just under the yellowed out area it says:

BMW * 5-er F10 * sports suspension, lowered * not active steering * wheel diameter: 19"

So my dealer seemingly had the option to specify sports suspension and lowered...

[makkan00]

Here is photo of mine.
Not sure how to compare as yours is in different language.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by makkan00

Here is photo of mine.
Not sure how to compare as yours is in different language.

Unfortunately the tolerances are impossible to read on your photo, so I am not able to see if you have different settings...

For instance my front camber has a base setting of -0deg 40' and has a +/-30' tolerance. If your datasheet has different camber settings than mine, then that would indicate different settings available for "sports suspension, lowered".

Before adjustments my front camber was -0deg 44' (left) and -0deg 43' (right)
After adjustments my front camber is -0deg 43' (left) and -0deg 39' (right)


Before adjustments my rear camber was -2deg 10' (left) and -1deg 50' (right)
After adjustments my rear camber is -1deg 46' (left) and -1deg 44' (right)

[makkan00]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Unfortunately the tolerances are impossible to read on your photo, so I am not able to see if you have different settings...

For instance my front camber has a base setting of -0deg 40' and has a +/-30' tolerance. If your datasheet has different camber settings than mine, then that would indicate different settings available for "sports suspension, lowered".

Before adjustments my front camber was -0deg 44' (left) and -0deg 43' (right)
After adjustments my front camber is -0deg 43' (left) and -0deg 39' (right)


Before adjustments my rear camber was -2deg 10' (left) and -1deg 50' (right)
After adjustments my rear camber is -1deg 46' (left) and -1deg 44' (right)

Many thanks. I think I have been conned then.
Here is my setup

Front after adjustment -0deg 38' (left) and -0deg22'
Rear after adjustment -2deg 11' (left) and -2deg'15 (right)

Comparing my and your setup whose wheel will be more inclined toward out at the bottom?

Now garage says that they had hunter machine and only had one setting.

[r33_RGSport]

Toe is the tire killer.
Also, the F10 suspension is double wishbone design, which there is no camber adjustment.
The only way to alter the camber degree is by altering the ride height. Adjusting toe might have a slight effect.

[moonriver]

Hi all,
I'm also using KW V3 on my F10, rear tires are also worn badly inside - Looking for a solution.
Anyone has tried this KMAC? I see they have, quite expensive, need advice/comment do they work?
http://www.k-mac.com/product/bmw-f01...pair-194526-k/

Thank you!