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09-25-2014, 10:16 AM | #661 | |
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The component they are referring to (commonly called a wishbone) is not necessarily bent, but comes in different dimensions to get the camber in specification. There is a standard dimension part, plus + & - value wishbones. The 'outsize' components give a +/- 30min value around the standard part number dimensions. Hope that helps a bit on the technical side. HighlandPete |
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09-25-2014, 11:28 AM | #662 | |
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Just spoke to service manager, and he told me that the Control Arm is actually not bent but the technician thinks that putting on one that is a fraction shorter will straighten out the camber... which is a bit frustrating since we are not even 100% sure it will and I have to spend $600 for it to just find out. Normally when a car is out of alignment what do they do to fix it? |
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09-25-2014, 11:45 AM | #663 | |
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If the original part on the car is measured and deemed not bent, then the problem lies with BMW and their quality control, since a replacement part of a different dimension might bring the car in spec, thus the alignment fix should be covered under warranty. Put another way, you should have the dealership measure the part coming off of your car, and compare it to a BRAND NEW part with the same part number. If the old part measures perfectly, then the pulling issue is not due to a faulty part, but rather, incorrect tolerances from the manufacturing of the car. This, in turn, is a manufacturing defect that should be covered under warranty. |
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09-25-2014, 05:37 PM | #664 | |
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Coming back to my first comment, I'm assuming your car tracked straight until June... if so something changed. Your excess toe-in (on the limit) does give a clue the tracking may have got knocked out of tolerance. The camber going too positive, (whatever the cause) will not have helped that toe-in value. HighlandPete |
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09-25-2014, 10:52 PM | #665 | |
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09-26-2014, 10:32 AM | #666 | |
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My dealer told me that if they order the part and I choose not to put it on the car, I will be charged a restocking fee. Its what you get when you are the only BMW dealer in town I guess hu.. |
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09-26-2014, 11:40 AM | #667 |
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So you're charged a restocking fee, big deal. That's a small price to pay considering the other repair costs involved. And if you end up proving the dealership wrong, they may waive the restocking fee for you.
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09-26-2014, 12:03 PM | #668 | |
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I've marked 'C' at the track rod end. Imagine moving the top of the carrier, position 'B' inwards or ourwards, while postion 'C' stays where it is, along with the bottom mounts as a fixed pivot. Therefore toe-in increases as you move 'B' outwards. Thus why I'm suggesting we are seeing a higher toe-in reading on your first alignment sheet. Harmonises with how the camber is out of spec' as a positive camber. The above comment is assuming the bottom suspension arms (wishbone and tension strut) are in spec', have not moved, bent or damaged in some way. BTW, you won't be able to directly compare dimensions of the existing component and the 'correcting' replacement, they will be different by design. Even comparing side by side and seeing differences, the only way you will know the camber setting, is by fitting the new part and having an alignment reading. It is dimensioned to give a -30min change. HighlandPete |
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01-12-2015, 11:33 AM | #670 |
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My SA said that BMW intentionally has the car pull a little to the right to ensure that drivers are paying attention and not falling asleep at the wheel. He said it was intentional design.
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01-12-2015, 12:42 PM | #672 |
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muahahahhahahahahahahahah I would email bmw corporate customer care and see what they think of that response. I also heard that every few minutes the car starts to wildly accelerate to make sure your paying attention too
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01-12-2015, 06:46 PM | #673 |
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There is a Service Bulletin to address this issue. I don't have my repair records handy, but it is a software update called "Straight Ahead Conversion" or similar. I had my 2011 528i updated 3 years ago and this issue is under control.
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06-07-2015, 03:33 PM | #674 |
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Have any of you guys noticed any difference between models with the Msport suspension and those without the Msport with regards to the pulling to the right issue?
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06-07-2015, 04:16 PM | #675 | |
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Is your car pulling, or simply drifting on road camber? One thing to check, steering wheel position when running straight. Is it exactly central? If not, the steering angle sensor (SAS) function is compromised, can't position the steering with the same precision as when it is perfectly central. Errors with SAS positioning is known to affect steering pull. HighlandPete |
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06-07-2015, 04:30 PM | #676 | |
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I did get my car second hand and the previous owner did mention the it pulled to the right during his out of town trip. I did not notice this too much during my test drive but after a few days of owning the car, I did notice the drifting that I mentioned in the paragraph above. I have since had the car aligned and haven't noticed anything significant, thought the drifting is still there. In comparison, my 1999 Audi A4 drifts like crazy and my 2014 Mercedes S550 is straight as an arrow. Perhaps it's a characteristic of the car? |
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06-08-2015, 11:56 AM | #677 | |
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I had the OEM tires giving me tire pull to the right. I no longer use these tires but am using Michelin Pilot Super Sport. This fixed the tire pull to the right. I also had my DME reprogrammed and that fixed the vague center feel. |
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06-08-2015, 01:42 PM | #678 | |
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What size rims are on your car and what kind of suspension does your car have? Thanks! |
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06-08-2015, 05:37 PM | #679 |
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I have had the unfortunate pleasure of dealing with BMW North America since I bought my new 2015 550 in December.
It has been pulling hard to the right since it was delivered. It has been in the shop 6 times now and numerous parts were ordered and installed. The car still steers to the right today. BMW NA claims it is absolutely perfect and there is not a problem. They closed their claim. I re-opened it. I am waiting for their rep to come to our dealership. This is unacceptable for an $80,000 vehicle. BMW NA has been absolutely horrible to work with. If they decide there is not a problem, they just close their file. This DOES NOT fly with me. I have owned 6 new BMW's over the years. I have to say, my 550 has been the absolute worst vehicle I have owned. And dealing with BMW has made my experience even worse. This has been going on for nearly 7 months. I have been paying for an $80,000 vehicle which drives like a 10 year old Honda. I have owned 3 Range Rovers with significantly fewer mechanical issues and much better service from Land Rover.
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06-09-2015, 12:14 PM | #680 | |
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I'm running factory 19". Factory Run Flats are crap. |
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06-09-2015, 12:17 PM | #681 | |
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I sorry to hear this. I've been there for the past few years. I saw the biggest improvement when I replaced the factory RF with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. One thing you may want to try is to swap the right and the left side to see if this creates a left side pull. But then again, the wheels will be rotating in the opposite direction so I'm not quite sure how the car will react. But my guess is tire pull. |
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06-09-2015, 12:21 PM | #682 | |
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