[Chrissy_bwoy]

Afternoon all.

Looking to hopefully have this fitted along with a service in the spring.

I am aware of a long wait for parts so wanted to arrange in the new year.

Has anyone had this fitted recently? if so where and at what cost (if you don't mind saying)

I have been quoted by one dealer £1700 +labour! going on other threads it has been below that all done.

My car is an F11 2013 LCI auto with paddles.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[makkan00]

I know that on E-series 320d performance it was approx 3K for
- Bigger radiator
- Oil cooler (if I am naming it right)
- Bigger cooling fan
- ECU reprogramming

Interested to see what is the cost on 520d.

[Balster]

I asked my dealer about this upgrade and I was told that the Performance kit cannot be fitted to an LCI with an Auto box. Have things changed?

[xenon]

Presumably because the sports auto was dropped on LCI.

[Chrissy_bwoy]

The dealer I spoke to said it could be done it was the price I was unhappy with.

[valbmw]

The OEM M Performance Power Kit is one of the two power upgrades that are officially available from BMW through its dealers. Please see the info you may find interesting and useful:
- technical intro from the official site http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...rd=power%20kit
- forum discussion and owners' feedback: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834384

The second upgrade (and IMO is the better one) is a Steinbauer tuning box which is BMW approved and proper installation can be done by the dealers keeping the BMW warranty in place: http://www.steinbauer.cc/ru/products...35kw__4ee/b7d/

I have no info is the combination of two possible or not, probably it is not because the Steinbauer boxes software is designed to be coupled with the stock ECU module. So I thing the perfect setup should be: Steinbauer box, MPPK bigger charge air cooler, M5 front brakes, H&R sport springs and sway bars. However this is totally up to your purpose and decision.

[MMY]

I have a new 520d with the next generation B47 engine - is a PPK available for this? Came from a 330d so while 190 BHP is generally adequate - and slightly better and more refined than the previous N47 184 BHP unit, I could use some more poke! (But not prepared the €15k premium for a 530d here in Ireland)

[Balster]

My local dealer said it would have cost £1100 in total (if I could have it). £1700 seems like a lot of £. I would have just bought a 525d instead.

[Chrissy_bwoy]

Thanks for the replies all.

What dealer was that Balster?

[Balster]

PM sent

[GMTRB5]

Are the Steinbauer boxes really bmw approved? Doesn't mention it on their website? If they are then that's tempting!

On my 535d it would take the power to 370bhp! !

[Chrissy_bwoy]

Just had 2 more quotes of £1700 parts only.

So either they have upped the price or thats the price for an LCI auto with paddles.

[valbmw]

The price of MPPK is neither linked to LCI and paddles nor to the mud flaps, or door soft close or whatever. With MPPK you are getting the brand new ECU, intercooler and front brakes, also some funny stickers. The ECU is being loaded with a specific performance software version with all your factory options coded in and incorporated.
The number that you have been given is the regular price for the whole kit, you can compare it to the cost of the OEM parts and see. It's a BMW. But this is a good and secure upgrade, anyway.

[Chrissy_bwoy]

I am basing my assumption on other prices people have been quoted in the past back to 2012. There are very few new topics on any BMW forum regarding the power kit. The later topics hint at compatibilty issues around the time the LCI was introduced.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926888

There was also issue around the paddle shift.

http://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/view...p?f=5&t=157790

Cost in 2012 was under 1300 fitted on a 520d auto.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showpost...5&postcount=81

I was also told the kit for my car did not include fan nor chargecooler as they are already uprated and no mention of front brakes anywhere (unless its country specific)

Thank you all for your input but at this price point it does not represent good value for money for me at least.

[makkan00]

It is usually
- DME module with specific map
- bigger intercooler (which is usually used in hot countries)
- Bigger fan (same as above)
- Slightly bigger air ducts to improve cooling

It was tempting at £1.1-1.4K but I just had M5 body kit fitted. I do not think bmw would like to install performance kit on a car where they may struggle to remove front bumper.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by valbmw

The OEM M Performance Power Kit is one of the two power upgrades that are officially available from BMW through its dealers. Please see the info you may find interesting and useful:
- technical intro from the official site http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...rd=power%20kit
- forum discussion and owners' feedback: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834384

The second upgrade (and IMO is the better one) is a Steinbauer tuning box which is BMW approved and proper installation can be done by the dealers keeping the BMW warranty in place: http://www.steinbauer.cc/ru/products...35kw__4ee/b7d/

I have no info is the combination of two possible or not, probably it is not because the Steinbauer boxes software is designed to be coupled with the stock ECU module. So I thing the perfect setup should be: Steinbauer box, MPPK bigger charge air cooler, M5 front brakes, H&R sport springs and sway bars. However this is totally up to your purpose and decision.

I have a Steinbauer box and they are NOT approved by BMW!

They are almost exactly the same as the AC Schnitzer tuning 'box', as Steinbauer make it as well. The difference is that the ACS box won't affect your warranty as ACS themselves will cover any warranty work that BMW won't do due to the box being fitted. This warranty is only for 2 years from the date the car was registered, or you can pay extra for the 3rd year.

However the Steinbauer is much more unlikely to cause problems like the cheaper DTUK style boxes as they don't increase fuel injection pressure or turbo boost pressure at all.

I'm very happy with my SB box, it's stated gains are for the factory setting, but with it cranked up i should be getting +26% power, so 320hp & 520lb-ft!

[valbmw]

Originally Posted by teaston

I have a Steinbauer box and they are NOT approved by BMW!

They are almost exactly the same as the AC Schnitzer tuning 'box', as Steinbauer make it as well. The difference is that the ACS box won't affect your warranty as ACS themselves will cover any warranty work that BMW won't do due to the box being fitted. This warranty is only for 2 years from the date the car was registered, or you can pay extra for the 3rd year.

However the Steinbauer is much more unlikely to cause problems like the cheaper DTUK style boxes as they don't increase fuel injection pressure or turbo boost pressure at all.

I'm very happy with my SB box, it's stated gains are for the factory setting, but with it cranked up i should be getting +26% power, so 320hp & 520lb-ft!

Sir, I am from a 20-million city where the country-largest BMW official dealer installs Steinbauer power box on both petrol and diesel 5-series keeping BMW factory warranty and the product warranty for the box and install. It might be the large dealership got a special agreement to sell the additional retrofit option for car enthusiasts. As noticed a number of times the dealers in different countries can offer some specific services (or restrictions) to generate more revenue. But I never heard any dealer extending BMW factory warranty as a charity or just for fun. The dealer for me is the BMW itself, I have no idea how they worked it out with Munich HQ, and actually I don't care. So no common rule here.
Good to hear that you are happy with your power box. We also have the authorized partners for Steinbauer, and Hartge, and AC Schitzer but the last two boxes should be removed to pass BMW dealer service during a warranty.

[Chrissy_bwoy]

Its more than likely country specific as we are talking about the UK who are notoriously stringent on warranty claims. Perhaps its more relaxed in Russia? (as your profile suggests)

[valbmw]

It is a country specific thing, and BMW is to decide what they let go or what they don't. However I agree the UK experience is the governing rule here. I was just not aware this particular product has no BMW hands on it, but still the box itself is good. No intention to confuse the OP and the other members.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by valbmw

Sir, I am from a 20-million city where the country-largest BMW official dealer installs Steinbauer power box on both petrol and diesel 5-series keeping BMW factory warranty and the product warranty for the box and install. It might be the large dealership got a special agreement to sell the additional retrofit option for car enthusiasts. As noticed a number of times the dealers in different countries can offer some specific services (or restrictions) to generate more revenue. But I never heard any dealer extending BMW factory warranty as a charity or just for fun. The dealer for me is the BMW itself, I have no idea how they worked it out with Munich HQ, and actually I don't care. So no common rule here.
Good to hear that you are happy with your power box. We also have the authorized partners for Steinbauer, and Hartge, and AC Schitzer but the last two boxes should be removed to pass BMW dealer service during a warranty.

That is very strange that the Steinbauer doesn't affect warranty in Russia, but then a lot of things are done very 'differently' in Russia.

Anyway, this is the UK forum, and in the UK the Steinbauer is certainly not approved by BMW, and will void any engine or drivetrain warranty for any problems that the dealer finds is directly caused by the box.

It's a risk i'm willing to take though as the chances of anything going wrong are very low.

[xenon]

If the Steinbauer box does not increase fuelling or turbo boost pressure, what exactly does it do to yield +26% power?

Or do you mean the DTUK does not increase fuelling or turbo boost?

[valbmw]

Originally Posted by teaston

That is very strange that the Steinbauer doesn't affect warranty in Russia, but then a lot of things are done very 'differently' in Russia.

Anyway, this is the UK forum, and in the UK the Steinbauer is certainly not approved by BMW, and will void any engine or drivetrain warranty for any problems that the dealer finds is directly caused by the box.

It's a risk i'm willing to take though as the chances of anything going wrong are very low.

I agree with you, we even have the steering wheel at another side. But just to be consistent: BMW is a German car, the box is Austrian and the whole site is US if you don't mind. What's wrong with it. Whatever is done differently here and there, we are all BMW fans discussing owners' experience. Regardless of what you mean 'differently', let's just be smart and play it cool.