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      08-04-2013, 03:03 PM   #1
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Rolling with engine off

I was parked in my garage and wanted to roll my car back a few inches so I'd have room to detail it. Couldn't figure out how to do it without starting and stopping the engine for a second.

Is there any way to get the vehicle out of park and into neutral with the engine off ?? I looked through the manual, and all it says is that the vehicle is automatically engaged in Park when the engine is off.
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There is a transmission release but its a lot more involved than just starting the engine.
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Check your manual. There is a section on this for those who will need to put there car in neutral when using those car washes that roll your car through.
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Check your manual. There is a section on this for those who will need to put there car in neutral when using those car washes that roll your car through.
I did. It says to put the car in Neutral BEFORE shutting the car off.
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Check your manual. There is a section on this for those who will need to put there car in neutral when using those car washes that roll your car through.
I did. It says to put the car in Neutral BEFORE shutting the car off.
That won't work though. If your car is in gear and you hit the Start/Stop button, the car automatically moves to Park.
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I HATE this. So stupid you can't put the car in Neutral while the engine is off. Inane.
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So how do people go thru automatic car wash?
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you cant even reverse your car without closing the driver's door
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Car wash I go to all the time, just keep it in neutral with the engine on.
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Does pushing the start button without pressing brake (put the car on accessory power) help car to shift into neutral?
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Does pushing the start button without pressing brake (put the car on accessory power) help car to shift into neutral?
Nope
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you cant even reverse your car without closing the driver's door
Yeah I tried to do that one time and the car tripped out I thought I broke it for a sec haha
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Why would anyone use a auto car wash? That is how you get scratches....
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Yeah I tried to do that one time and the car tripped out I thought I broke it for a sec haha
Annoying feature..... but this can be disabled via coding.
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Why would anyone use a auto car wash? That is how you get scratches....
Some places are too cold to wash the car with a hose without freezing the water and yourself in the process. If you live up North, you got no choice really.
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you cant even reverse your car without closing the driver's door
For good reason, people have been killed doing just that. Opening a door to look out, falling out and being reversed over as the car continues.

Here is a reasonably extreme example of why the car doesn't allow movement without you in it;

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec-...-car-1.1294029
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Last weekend I read the manual by myself for another reason. Is stumbled over a chapter where the transmission is described. What I remember is:

- You can unlock the transmission without the engine running by pushing up the gear lever sack, unclip the plastic part below and using a tool to release the lock. IMO this costs lot's of time and will produce scratches, so this is just for emergency only.
- If you put the key fob into the lock, put the car into neutral and than switch off with the start button it STAYS in neutral.

I hope I remember it right. It is for a german spec car, but if you ask me it is worth a try...
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For good reason, people have been killed doing just that. Opening a door to look out, falling out and being reversed over as the car continues.

Here is a reasonably extreme example of why the car doesn't allow movement without you in it;

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec-...-car-1.1294029
Its good that BMW is making its cars safer and are implementing these features.

However, no amount of safety features is going to 100% prevent accidents; but I do agree that this is not a reason to not implement them.

The worrying trend is that there is no provision made available to disable these features (if required).

The same car sold in a different market has a feature enabled or disabled (depending on how safety conscious the said market is); so it is not that BMW is pushing the safety features, it is also being conscious of the market it sells to.

It would be nice if BMW allowed the end customer to enable/ disable these features or let the dealerships enable/disable these features. At the moment, the only way is to code then car yourself...
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Last weekend I read the manual by myself for another reason. Is stumbled over a chapter where the transmission is described. What I remember is:

- You can unlock the transmission without the engine running by pushing up the gear lever sack, unclip the plastic part below and using a tool to release the lock. IMO this costs lot's of time and will produce scratches, so this is just for emergency only.
- If you put the key fob into the lock, put the car into neutral and than switch off with the start button it STAYS in neutral.

I hope I remember it right. It is for a german spec car, but if you ask me it is worth a try...
This feature was removed from around 2009 onwards... does not exist anymore.
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you cant even reverse your car without closing the driver's door
You can if you put on your seat belt.
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This feature was removed from around 2009 onwards... does not exist anymore.
I tested it 5 minutes ago and it works as described.

But anyway, please go on discussing...
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I tested it 5 minutes ago and it works as described.

But anyway, please go on discussing...
Since there is no longer a tool provided in the US version of theF10, its pretty save to say that feature is gone.
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