Rear camera Malf'in!

dadysev · 04-04-2017, 08:54 AM

Rrrr! Don't get it. Works every time, including obstacle marking and the lines "thingy". Wtf f10?? Have to scan it and see if it gives me more info.
Anyone encounter this ??

Ickdeep · 04-04-2017, 10:22 AM

I had this same message for the side camera. Luckily the car was under warranty still and they replaced the wiring to fix the problem.

mrashton · 04-04-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dadysev

Rrrr! Don't get it. Works every time, including obstacle marking and the lines "thingy". Wtf f10?? Have to scan it and see if it gives me more info.
Anyone encounter this ??

I had the same issue due to a side view camera failure. This then messes with the TRSVC module which issues errors each time you go to use the reverse camera. Here is a link to my experience and eventual replacement of the sideview camera and signal cable. http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/125551...amera-failure/
The first post is where I removed the side view camera and then later on towards the end of the thread is where I replaced the cable.

DonJkZ · 04-04-2017, 09:53 PM

I too get this error sometimes. It seems to occur after washing the car or sometimes rain, not sure why because everything works, but malfunction comes up. It then disappears after a few hours or a day.

ezaircon4jc · 04-04-2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DonJkZ

I too get this error sometimes. It seems to occur after washing the car or sometimes rain, not sure why because everything works, but malfunction comes up. It then disappears after a few hours or a day.

Sounds like moisture intrusion...

DonJkZ · 04-04-2017, 10:19 PM

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Sounds like moisture intrusion...

Would this be moisture inside the camera lens module itself (is there even a sensor for that?), or just indicating moisture around the interior of boot handle? (One clip holding the camera in place is loose)

ezaircon4jc · 04-04-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DonJkZ

Would this be moisture inside the camera lens module itself (is there even a sensor for that?), or just indicating moisture around the interior of boot handle? (One clip holding the camera in place is loose)

I would start at connections...

dadysev · 04-05-2017, 07:55 AM

well i did do a good wash on Sunday and noticed it Monday morning. I will def have to start taking apart the connections in the trunk. thanks all

FiverJ · 04-05-2017, 01:24 PM

I have this same issue intermittently. Dealer asked over $2000 to replace camera and wiring.

mrashton · 04-06-2017, 02:14 PM

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I have this same issue intermittently. Dealer asked over $2000 to replace camera and wiring.

That is seriously ridiculous money. But the retail price of the camera is about $450 and the HSD cables are very pricy. If it is just the trunk camera, I'd take a guess that it isn't that difficult for a DIYer and you can probably source the parts cheaper on the Internet. The problem with these cables is that once moisture affects them it is nigh on impossible to remedy without replacement. That is from experience.

mrashton · 04-06-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FiverJ

I have this same issue intermittently. Dealer asked over $2000 to replace camera and wiring.

That is seriously ridiculous money. But the retail price of the camera is about $450 and the HSD cables are very pricy. If it is just the trunk camera, I'd take a guess that it isn't that difficult for a DIYer and you can probably source the parts cheaper on the Internet. The problem with these cables is that once moisture affects them it is nigh on impossible to remedy without replacement. That is from experience.

Breach · 04-07-2017, 03:26 PM

As stated there's likely a short and the ECU throws an error. Had the same with my left top view camera, water ingress, would fix itself when the car dries... I replaced mine myself (bloody expensive cables), but the rear one is probably more complicated - also identifying which cable is at fault is also a PITA. Check that the rubber rear view camera seal is still intact (mine broke on its own and had to be replaced). It's very unlikely you'll have to replace any cameras unless the connection pins have corroded themselves. Frankly it's incredible we have water/corrosion issues with a car that expensive - yours is probably the 10th thread I've come across...

dadysev · 04-07-2017, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Breach

As stated there's likely a short and the ECU throws an error. Had the same with my left top view camera, water ingress, would fix itself when the car dries... I replaced mine myself (bloody expensive cables), but the rear one is probably more complicated - also identifying which cable is at fault is also a PITA. Check that the rubber rear view camera seal is still intact (mine broke on its own and had to be replaced). It's very unlikely you'll have to replace any cameras unless the connection pins have corroded themselves. Frankly it's incredible we have water/corrosion issues with a car that expensive - yours is probably the 10th thread I've come across...

yeah figured that. Have had a few days of rain. First nice warm day i'm taking the stuff apart. probably needs re sealing. Rubber and seals broke down i'm guessing. most likely has slight shorts between the pins from water and the message is popping up cause the current to the cameras is a little higher.

dadysev · 04-13-2017, 09:04 PM

Anyone know where the main module is ? now my right top, and right front camera are giving errors!!! RRRR! WTF?!?!

FiverJ · 04-19-2017, 07:21 PM

I got my new cable installed to left front camera. Indy tech saved time by routing it along door sill and under carpet after wrappimg it with extra conduit. Took 6 hours but did not end up having to remove seats ,carpet or center console. $588 out the door.

claykin · 04-20-2017, 06:34 AM

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I got my new cable installed to left front camera. Indy tech saved time by routing it along door sill and under carpet after wrappimg it with extra conduit. Took 6 hours but did not end up having to remove seats ,carpet or center console. $588 out the door.

BMW has a bulletin on how to route the HSD repair cables. The method used by your servicer is basically the same way BMW recommends. Hopefully your issue is resolved.

mrashton · 04-27-2017, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dadysev

Anyone know where the main module is ? now my right top, and right front camera are giving errors!!! RRRR! WTF?!?!

The TRSVC module is in the trunk behind the cover on the left hand side.

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Breach First Lieutenant 80 Rep 373 Posts Drives: F10 520dA M Sport Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	As stated there's likely a short and the ECU throws an error. Had the same with my left top view camera, water ingress, would fix itself when the car dries... I replaced mine myself (bloody expensive cables), but the rear one is probably more complicated - also identifying which cable is at fault is also a PITA. Check that the rubber rear view camera seal is still intact (mine broke on its own and had to be replaced). It's very unlikely you'll have to replace any cameras unless the connection pins have corroded themselves. Frankly it's incredible we have water/corrosion issues with a car that expensive - yours is probably the 10th thread I've come across...
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FiverJ New Member 0 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2014 535i M Sport Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (0)	I got my new cable installed to left front camera. Indy tech saved time by routing it along door sill and under carpet after wrappimg it with extra conduit. Took 6 hours but did not end up having to remove seats ,carpet or center console. $588 out the door.
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