ConnectedDrive Real-Time Traffic Info Gone?

spielnicht · 02-10-2021, 07:13 AM

Just tried to renew my annual RTTI subscription online (connecteddrive.bmwusa.com) but it's no longer an option for my car. I don't use the car's nav often (just on super long drives), but I like having RTTI always updating me of hazards on the highway (I66 & I495).

The only thing I did recently was update to the 2021 map with a lifetime code I got on eBay. I doubt that has anything to do with it.

Anyone else seeing this for their F10?

philipm785 · 02-10-2021, 09:15 AM

This is due to anticipated phase out of 3G wireless connections. BMW doesn't want to deal with complaints and issues due to declining 3G coverage or get stuck paying for COMBOX upgrades like they did for the 2G phase out, so they're just killing the service. My car isn't even out of CPO yet. Kind of frustrating that they sunset this so early.

walmark · 02-10-2021, 09:44 AM

Unbelievable. And some of these cars are only 4-5 years old! Couldn't they plan ahead with a tech upgrade to 4G?

I'm guessing there is nothing we can do about it?

spielnicht · 02-10-2021, 09:44 AM

God damn it. That's horrible to feel your car is already outdated when you're still under warranty or making payments on it (on my last year). Oh well.

philipm785 · 02-10-2021, 03:24 PM

It's possible that an upgraded Combox will be available at some point (they did make a 2G -> 3G upgrade for CIC cars), but I wouldn't hold my breath ..

Nickco43 · 02-10-2021, 06:13 PM

Time to retrofit a NBT Evo and ATM.

spielnicht · 02-11-2021, 08:47 AM

Even then it's unlikely to make a difference since RTTI subscription is tied to my VIN and the option would still be disabled for me to subscribe to. Oh I thought a lot about the ID5/6 upgrade to get native CarPlay support and speedier interface, but I can't justify $2k purchase when I've got a $3k upper oil pan leak job waiting for me to take care of.

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Originally Posted by Nickco43

Time to retrofit a NBT Evo and ATM.

Nickco43 · 02-11-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spielnicht

Even then it's unlikely to make a difference since RTTI subscription is tied to my VIN and the option would still be disabled for me to subscribe to. Oh I thought a lot about the ID5/6 upgrade to get native CarPlay support and speedier interface, but I can't justify $2k purchase when I've got a $3k upper oil pan leak job waiting for me to take care of.

My Connected Drive services are under the donor X3's VIN. I took ownership of the VIN when I setup my ATM.

GrabacrOne · 02-11-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickco43

My Connected Drive services are under the donor X3's VIN. I took ownership of the VIN when I setup my ATM.

Do the Connected App remote services work, like lock/unlock/etc.?

Nickco43 · 02-11-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GrabacrOne

Do the Connected App remote services work, like lock/unlock/etc.?

They are active but I do not think my FRM supports them. I did the same in a F30 with the FEM and everything worked.

GrabacrOne · 02-13-2021, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GrabacrOne

Do the Connected App remote services work, like lock/unlock/etc.?

They are active but I do not think my FRM supports them. I did the same in a F30 with the FEM and everything worked.

I see. Yeah, my F10 also has an FRM module. I wonder if the NBT Evo comes from an LCI F12/F13/F06 6 series which had NBT Evo and should also have FRM instead of FEM or BDC_Body, it will work with the F10.

spielnicht · 02-20-2021, 08:44 AM

So to understand this correctly, our cars have a TCB and that would need to be replaced with an ATM from a donor car to get online functionality, correct?

ezaircon4jc · 02-26-2021, 06:02 PM

I'm a bit confused. What do I need to do to get back RTTI & ConnectedDrive? Is it possible? Parts needed? If I install NBT EVO ID 5 will that work?

So many questions... I just want my services that I use REGULARLY!

dzz · 02-27-2021, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spielnicht

Just tried to renew my annual RTTI subscription online (connecteddrive.bmwusa.com) but it's no longer an option for my car. I don't use the car's nav often (just on super long drives), but I like having RTTI always updating me of hazards on the highway (I66 & I495).

The only thing I did recently was update to the 2021 map with a lifetime code I got on eBay. I doubt that has anything to do with it.

Anyone else seeing this for their F10?

You could upgrade to Apple or Android car play and use apps like Waze and your maps will always be up to date. It is also munch cheaper than the NBT EVO upgrade.

ezaircon4jc · 02-28-2021, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dzz

You could upgrade to Apple or Android car play and use apps like Waze and your maps will always be up to date. It is also munch cheaper than the NBT EVO upgrade.

The NBT EVO is only $50 more than the CarPlay MMI adapter. Also...

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CarPlay MMI Prime supports devices running iOS up to version 14

I haven't installed 14.4 for various reasons, but have 14.2.

dzz · 03-06-2021, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

The NBT EVO is only $50 more than the CarPlay MMI adapter.

Please do share a link for NBT EVO. The ones I was able to find are $700 or more without the touch screen while MMI units are about $265 (after the $65off coupon) at https://www.amazon.com/Carlinkit-Wir.../dp/B085CCTPCD

ezaircon4jc · 03-07-2021, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dzz

Please do share a link for NBT EVO. The ones I was able to find are $700 or more without the touch screen while MMI units are about $265 (after the $65off coupon) at https://www.amazon.com/Carlinkit-Wir.../dp/B085CCTPCD

'Twas my mistake. The EVO is more like $2200; I looked at the wrong item. The Bimmer-Tech MMI is more like $650. Sorry for the confusion.

dzz · 03-07-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

'Twas my mistake. The EVO is more like $2200; I looked at the wrong item. The Bimmer-Tech MMI is more like $650. Sorry for the confusion.

Yes, Bimmertech wants $2200 for the EVO, but I've come across european seller that would sell EVO unit for about $700 and then if you want touch screen that is additional $200-$300. I didn't pursue it because I wanted to keep my car as stock as possible and be able to reverse the changes

stealth98 · 03-26-2021, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by walmark

Unbelievable. And some of these cars are only 4-5 years old! Couldn't they plan ahead with a tech upgrade to 4G?

I'm guessing there is nothing we can do about it?

ARTTI can be enabled as long as the data connection via the CarSIM is active see https://navituning.azurewebsites.net

Is the ConnectedDrive store (QR) still active in iDrive?

spielnicht · 03-26-2021, 07:41 PM

Why am I just finding out about this when I was paying $50 a year for the past 4 years?

I meet all the prerequisites. Gonna pull the trigger and give it a go. I'll update soon.

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Originally Posted by stealth98

ARTTI can be enabled as long as the data connection via the CarSIM is active see https://navituning.azurewebsites.net

Is the ConnectedDrive store (QR) still acitive in iDrive?

ezaircon4jc · 03-26-2021, 11:25 PM

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Is the ConnectedDrive store (QR) still acitive in iDrive?

No. The store was disabled a year or so ago. The lawyers made them turn it off for "safety" reasons.

ezaircon4jc · 03-26-2021, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spielnicht

Why am I just finding out about this when I was paying $50 a year for the past 4 years?

I meet all the prerequisites. Gonna pull the trigger and give it a go. I'll update soon.

Please do! I'm also looking at this option.

02-10-2021, 07:13 AM	#1
spielnicht Petrolhead 438 Rep 801 Posts Drives: 24 X3 M40i/14 550i/08 Z4 3.0si Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Virginia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW Z4 3.0si [9.67] 2014 BMW 550i [6.00] 2024 BMW X3 M40i [9.25]	ConnectedDrive Real-Time Traffic Info Gone? Just tried to renew my annual RTTI subscription online (connecteddrive.bmwusa.com) but it's no longer an option for my car. I don't use the car's nav often (just on super long drives), but I like having RTTI always updating me of hazards on the highway (I66 & I495). The only thing I did recently was update to the 2021 map with a lifetime code I got on eBay. I doubt that has anything to do with it. Anyone else seeing this for their F10? Attached Images __________________ . 2024 X3 M40i 2014 550i 2008 Z4 3.0si 6MT 2011 Z4 35si (sold)
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walmark Apprentice 85 Rep 491 Posts Drives: 550i F10 '15 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SF Bay iTrader: (2)	Unbelievable. And some of these cars are only 4-5 years old! Couldn't they plan ahead with a tech upgrade to 4G? I'm guessing there is nothing we can do about it?
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