[Stevo_N63]

Originally Posted by badblack550xi

lets see your times with tune on, wont be impressive.

I'll post up times next trip I make. Most likely won't be impressive, but it's worthless for me to spend more money when my Focus RS is around the corner.

[Gpfarrell]

Those lousy Dinan tunes don't even work when they aren't installed. That's BS!

[AmooManiak]

I don't think it's just the tune. Those times are well below what a stock 550xi should do in the quarter (trap and ET)

[SLVSRFR]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

I don't think it's just the tune. Those times are well below what a stock 550xi should do in the quarter (trap and ET)

http://autotk.com/0-60-times/bmw/550/

He's at stock times.

[FSociety]

Stevo_N63 your car is white?

[Stevo_N63]

Originally Posted by FSociety

Stevo_N63 your car is white?

yes

[FSociety]

Saw this car Sept 16 when I went to Island thought it was u

[AmooManiak]

Originally Posted by SLVSRFR

http://autotk.com/0-60-times/bmw/550/

He's at stock times.

Nah, he's not. Not sure I would use "Autotk" as an official source. They have consistent trap speeds of under 100 mph for the F10 (some close to 90 than 100) and my dog knows that's not correct. Where did they test these cars? You'd think they'd have some sort of review to go along with the test.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/arc.../t-531502.html

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

Nah, he's not. Not sure I would use "Autotk" as an official source. They have consistent trap speeds of under 100 mph for the F10 (some close to 90 than 100) and my dog knows that's not correct. Where did they test these cars? You'd think they'd have some sort of review to go along with the test.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/arc.../t-531502.html

OMG... the member already stated that his car is fine!! His tune wasn't installed!! You can't compare someone who drag races stock cars for a living to someone who doesn't have anywhere near the same experience. The driver matters just as much, if not more, than the car in drags. Look at those times! Obviously the member can use some practice on launching his car. 13.4 and 12.8 are not far off from a experienced driver to a not so experienced driver, plus who knows what the conditions were.

[NV GUNS]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

Nah, he's not. Not sure I would use "Autotk" as an official source. They have consistent trap speeds of under 100 mph for the F10 (some close to 90 than 100) and my dog knows that's not correct. Where did they test these cars? You'd think they'd have some sort of review to go along with the test.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/arc.../t-531502.html

I agree, autotek has the LCI and pre having the same 0-60 times, also from 14 and newer the 550 keeps getting faster? I don't get it

[AmooManiak]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

OMG... the member already stated that his car is fine!! His tune wasn't installed!! You can't compare someone who drag races stock cars for a living to someone who doesn't have anywhere near the same experience. The driver matters just as much, if not more, than the car in drags. Look at those times! Obviously the member can use some practice on launching his car. 13.4 and 12.8 are not far off from a experienced driver to a not so experienced driver, plus who knows what the conditions were.

13.4 and 12.8 are not far off??? Every .1 seconds @ 100 mph equates to about 1 car length. The faster the time, the bigger the differnce becomes. That's a 6 car lengths difference! Or let's just say, a couple of bus lengths.

Not to mention that "bad" drivers usually spin more which lowers the ET but helps with the trap speed. In this case even the trap speed is not up to par.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

13.4 and 12.8 are not far off??? Every .1 seconds @ 100 mph equates to about 1 car length. The faster the time, the bigger the differnce becomes. That's a 6 car lengths difference! Or let's just say, a couple of bus lengths.

Not to mention that "bad" drivers usually spin more which lowers the ET but helps with the trap speed. In this case even the trap speed is not up to par.

That's at 100mph, his problem isn't top end power. His problem is launching. 60" times are the most important of 1/4 times, and his is far from good. Which means he cant launch or he's having traction issues, no way around it. If it's taking him .5 second longer to get off the line, thats his issue right there. And that "spin theory" applies to cars that are manually shifted, he was in sport auto! That whole theory is based on being able to climb the rpm range while the wheel spins allowing you to have more track to accelerate, which helps your trap speed. However, if his car automatically upshifts while climbing and spinning, that throws that whole theory out the window. All that inertia slowed by 2k RPM from the upshift. You're comparing apples from different trees here. You have no idea the experience of either drivers (guessing not much from the member since he's using S-auto to shift), what the track conditions were on either days, and if the track was prepped properly. Also, for 1/4 times I would probably switch back to the stock 19" M-Sport wheels which was ran on the stock car. You're trying to convince yourself that the car has some underlying issue when the member has already taken his car to a certified DINAN dealer, confirmed that his car is fine, and his tune wasn't installed. I don't see what can verify that even more for you..

If you took a novice driver and put him in a stock Aventador that runs high 10's in the 1/4 mile with an experienced driver. I guarantee you the novice driver wouldnt get anywhere near the 10 second mark. The driver is the most important, in any tracked event.

[AmooManiak]

I'm not sure why you're implying that I said that something else is wrong with his CAR. I said it's not just the tune and that those times are well below normal 1/4 times. Someone else said that he is running stock times, which is not true.

[badblack550xi]

Horrible all around, most likely has a vacuum leak

[FSociety]

Stevo_N63 ATCO Oct 14th Friday they open from 4:30-11:30pm lots of BMWs going

[M6NIAC]

Guys understand many sources measure 1/4's in many different ways! He's probably not running stock times because:
1. His R/T
2. He might have many different weight factors:
a. His personal weight
b. Other objects inside the car (he forgot or didnt take out)
3. His shifting vs automatic shifting

I highly, HIGHLY doubt that all sources (you guys looked at) drag the same car that's
1. Exactly the same weight (including driver)
2. Shift exactly the same time
3. Launch exactly at the same time

[badblack550xi]

Originally Posted by Arko528

Guys understand many sources measure 1/4's in many different ways! He's probably not running stock times because:
1. His R/T
2. He might have many different weight factors:
a. His personal weight
b. Other objects inside the car (he forgot or didnt take out)
3. His shifting vs automatic shifting

I highly, HIGHLY doubt that all sources (you guys looked at) drag the same car that's
1. Exactly the same weight (including driver)
2. Shift exactly the same time
3. Launch exactly at the same time

HE ran at island dragway where i set all my records, stock N63 550 runs 13 flat there all year long.

[M6NIAC]

Mate, that's not the point i'm trying to make! I'm simply stating every source that's out there, that we as individuals use to look up STOCK 1/4 mile times, are not always the same and most of the time are different. It is very difficult for 2 sources to have the same 1/4 mile time for a specific vehicle, I know this because my best mate from high school works for a company where he drags stock cars and reports the 1/4 times.

Your 1/4 might've been different than his because
1. He is inexperienced whereas you might not be.
2. The weight in his car might be way different from the weight that was in your time, and what I mean by that is. He probably weighs either much more than you or much less OR he probably had other objects in the vehicle that could've had an impact to his ET.
3. Automatic vs manual shifting, I made a point about this earlier in the post, you might've shifted manually whereas he shifted automatically and remember that makes a huge, HUGE difference!

[SLVSRFR]

Originally Posted by Arko528

Mate, that's not the point i'm trying to make! I'm simply stating every source that's out there, that we as individuals use to look up STOCK 1/4 mile times, are not always the same and most of the time are different. It is very difficult for 2 sources to have the same 1/4 mile time for a specific vehicle, I know this because my best mate from high school works for a company where he drags stock cars and reports the 1/4 times.

Your 1/4 might've been different than his because
1. He is inexperienced whereas you might not be.
2. The weight in his car might be way different from the weight that was in your time, and what I mean by that is. He probably weighs either much more than you or much less OR he probably had other objects in the vehicle that could've had an impact to his ET.
3. Automatic vs manual shifting, I made a point about this earlier in the post, you might've shifted manually whereas he shifted automatically and remember that makes a huge, HUGE difference!

I agree with you 100%. I believe his car is fine and is running stock times for him and his driving ability. Stock times are relative to the driver/track. You use it as a baseline of where you should be, but my 1/4 mile times would be different from someone with the same car/mods

[AmooManiak]

Originally Posted by Arko528

Guys understand many sources measure 1/4's in many different ways! He's probably not running stock times because:
1. His R/T
2. He might have many different weight factors:
a. His personal weight
b. Other objects inside the car (he forgot or didnt take out)
3. His shifting vs automatic shifting

I highly, HIGHLY doubt that all sources (you guys looked at) drag the same car that's
1. Exactly the same weight (including driver)
2. Shift exactly the same time
3. Launch exactly at the same time

You can take RT out of the equation.

[M6NIAC]

Originally Posted by SLVSRFR

I agree with you 100%. I believe his car is fine and is running stock times for him and his driving ability. Stock times are relative to the driver/track. You use it as a baseline of where you should be, but my 1/4 mile times would be different from someone with the same car/mods

Exactly

[Gpfarrell]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

You can take RT out of the equation.

Double exactly.