2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
 

2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 F10 Technical Topics Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications n63tu max power with stock downpipes?
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-02-2017, 12:12 AM   #23
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
DuSh trust me you're fine lol dont get lost by the numbers game, most of these owners have never seen a dyno and just go to the tuner who advertised the highest dyno queen Weiner size lol.

I also think for your car X5 50i + 91 oct higher weigh & drivetrain loss than these F10, your tune speaks for itself on Dyno Dynamics. The guy said it himself, the Mustang was calibrated to read happy like a Dynojet

My advice is, but we cant see since his screenshot is tiny, focus on the power band + delta (before and after numbers) not just peak number.
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80


Last edited by FSociety; 12-02-2017 at 12:22 AM..
Appreciate 2
DuSh2113.50
      12-02-2017, 12:19 AM   #24
TheBlackGT
Like No Other.
TheBlackGT's Avatar
United_States
554
Rep
1,833
Posts

Drives: BMW F07 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NY/NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FSociety View Post
DuSh trust me you're fine lol dont get lost by the numbers game, most of these owners have never seen a dyno and just go to the tuner who advertised the highest dyno queen Weiner size lol.

I also think for your car X5 50i more drivetrain loss than these F10 and 91 octane, your tune speaks for itself on Dyno Dynamics. The guy said it himself, the Mustang was calibrated to read happy like a Dynojet

My advice is, but we cant see since his screenshot is tiny, focus on the power band + delta (before and after numbers) not just peak number.
I still need to come to the strip with you, I've been slacking.
__________________
BMW 550i GT LCI (w/ a VW MK7 daily)
personal IG: http://www.instagram.com/TheBlackGT
my work: http://www.instagram.com/CorsaAutoDesign
Appreciate 0
      12-02-2017, 12:49 AM   #25
DuSh
Colonel
DuSh's Avatar
2114
Rep
2,388
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackGT View Post
I did a little background research and spoke with a few dyno-tuning friends. Mustangs/Dyno Dynamics (let's call it DD for short) are actually quite close, although DD does read between 2-3% lower on average. However a DD does read 12-15% lower than a dynojet, and with your numbers factored at 15% difference in thats around 512/622wtq. Still very impressive. Also btw, WG550i's car is AWD not RWD.

BPC claims 127whp gains on their site, DME has shown gains of 140whp. The difference isn't much; at the end of the day I'm sure both tunes share commonalities.

Nonetheless, these cars are stupid fast with just simple tunes.
In that case I stand corrected. Impressive job for DME Tuning! Thanks you for clarifying, this is how we get to truth. I'm glad there are enthusiast members like you who care about all this

Well, in my case I'm still going to go with downpipes and intake as I really want to push it to the max one day (before I succumb to boring electric cars lol) Hopefully, we'll see good numbers for Stage 2 across all tuners for our platform
Cheers
Appreciate 1
FSociety3811.50
      12-02-2017, 12:59 AM   #26
TheBlackGT
Like No Other.
TheBlackGT's Avatar
United_States
554
Rep
1,833
Posts

Drives: BMW F07 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NY/NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DuSh View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackGT View Post
I did a little background research and spoke with a few dyno-tuning friends. Mustangs/Dyno Dynamics (let's call it DD for short) are actually quite close, although DD does read between 2-3% lower on average. However a DD does read 12-15% lower than a dynojet, and with your numbers factored at 15% difference in thats around 512/622wtq. Still very impressive. Also btw, WG550i's car is AWD not RWD.

BPC claims 127whp gains on their site, DME has shown gains of 140whp. The difference isn't much; at the end of the day I'm sure both tunes share commonalities.

Nonetheless, these cars are stupid fast with just simple tunes.
In that case I stand corrected. Impressive job for DME Tuning! Thanks you for clarifying, this is how we get to truth. I'm glad there are enthusiast members like you who care about all this

Well, in my case I'm still going to go with downpipes and intake as I really want to push it to the max one day (before I succumb to boring electric cars lol) Hopefully, we'll see good numbers for Stage 2 across all tuners for our platform
Cheers
haha I did not mean hostility in my reply, just wanted to share my research. DME's tune is no doubt impressive but so is BPC's, especially with that torque figure.

I will have my Stage 2 with downpipes and intakes dyno'd soon, and will keep you posted. Regardless, having a near 3-ton truck do 60 as quick as many 6 figure exotics is already quite amazing.
__________________
BMW 550i GT LCI (w/ a VW MK7 daily)
personal IG: http://www.instagram.com/TheBlackGT
my work: http://www.instagram.com/CorsaAutoDesign
Appreciate 1
DuSh2113.50
      12-02-2017, 01:28 PM   #27
wg550i
New Member
8
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: F10 550i M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Sorry for the poor quality on my previous post, I was having trouble uploading the photo. I have a better quality photo here.
View post on imgur.com
Appreciate 0
      12-03-2017, 07:30 PM   #28
badblack550xi
Colonel
badblack550xi's Avatar
United_States
465
Rep
2,416
Posts

Drives: F10 550i 2011 F90 2020 COMP
Join Date: May 2013
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

1/4 mile times do the talking, most dyno queens ive seen never put any good 1/4 numbers.
__________________
2011 550i RWD 60-130 7.35
Appreciate 2
FSociety3811.50
DuSh2113.50
      12-04-2017, 12:10 AM   #29
DuSh
Colonel
DuSh's Avatar
2114
Rep
2,388
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by badblack550xi View Post
1/4 mile times do the talking, most dyno queens ive seen never put any good 1/4 numbers.
That's in my plans within a month hopefully. So far I timed myself on a straight strip of road with a distance measured on google maps lol - I got around 118mph trap time (damn 5200lbs), hopefully that's around high 11's but we shall see. I'll post receipt
Appreciate 1
      12-04-2017, 09:37 AM   #30
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
I bought "Go Dragy" from here http://godragy.com (Free iOS and Android app)
$157 shipped (Sale right now) it will go up to $199
It has a 10hz GPS just like the famous Vbox that cost $500+

Scroll down to middle of page BUY NOW "Click it" and you'll see $149, just received mine on friday and will be testing. 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile, 60-130

Drag strip are closing here so there shouldn't be an excuse
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80

Appreciate 0
      12-04-2017, 12:13 PM   #31
badblack550xi
Colonel
badblack550xi's Avatar
United_States
465
Rep
2,416
Posts

Drives: F10 550i 2011 F90 2020 COMP
Join Date: May 2013
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FSociety View Post
I bought "Go Dragy" from here http://godragy.com (Free iOS and Android app)
$157 shipped (Sale right now) it will go up to $199
It has a 10hz GPS just like the famous Vbox that cost $500+

Scroll down to middle of page BUY NOW "Click it" and you'll see $149, just received mine on friday and will be testing. 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile, 60-130

Drag strip are closing here so there shouldn't be an excuse
Great! funny thing the Vbox version everyone uses is the pricey version but is much slower than their cheaper version which is similar to Go Dragy.
__________________
2011 550i RWD 60-130 7.35
Appreciate 1
FSociety3811.50
      12-12-2017, 01:00 PM   #32
Bob@BPC
Bob@BPC's Avatar
United_States
864
Rep
642
Posts

Drives: F30 328i Sport Line
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Raleigh

iTrader: (0)

Had a 2013 BMW Alpina B7 on the dyno today, made impressive numbers in stock trim.

I did pull the stock file from the car (THANK YOU OBDII FLASHING) and diving into the software side and see whats different between this and a stock n63tu.
I'll be tuning this car later this year.
Attached Images
   
Appreciate 2
FSociety3811.50
DuSh2113.50
      12-12-2017, 03:05 PM   #33
AldoNY
Enlisted Member
3
Rep
47
Posts

Drives: 2014 550i x drive
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Westchester NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wg550i View Post
My 550i xdrive (N63TU) is tuned by DME Tuning, and it dyno'd @ 528awhp and 588ft-lbs. Tune only stock downpipes running 93 octane.
How's the tune holding up? Any parts fail or wear out since tuning
Appreciate 0
      12-12-2017, 03:22 PM   #34
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
badblack550xi DuSh TheBlackGT wg550i

https://www.amazon.com/dragy-10Hz-Ba...keywords=Dragy

Amazon has it too, free 1 day shipping

Dragy vs Vbox same run
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80

Appreciate 2
DuSh2113.50
wg550i8.00
      12-13-2017, 09:13 AM   #35
wg550i
New Member
8
Rep
15
Posts

Drives: F10 550i M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AldoNY View Post
How's the tune holding up? Any parts fail or wear out since tuning
No problems at all, I love it.
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2018, 03:58 PM   #36
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
DuSh hows the car
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80

Appreciate 1
DuSh2113.50
      01-26-2018, 04:39 PM   #37
DuSh
Colonel
DuSh's Avatar
2114
Rep
2,388
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FSociety View Post
DuSh hows the car
I added drilled rotors, bought aftermarket roof spoiler (but haven installed it yet - can't find time), ventured into weight reduction: muffler delete, rear seat delete, lighter rims, thinking to install Momo race seat (lightweight) and maybe even Braille/Deka battery (stock x5 battery weighs 65lbs). Waiting for new OBD tunes to start coming out with some improvements and more hp/tq - it's sad that there's not much going on for n63tu platform. I mean there's tons of stuff for n54/55, but not much for n63tu
I'm preparing for exams and haven't had much time to really check what's going on with tunes/flash market

How is your car, hope you have no issues, running good?
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2018, 04:41 PM   #38
DuSh
Colonel
DuSh's Avatar
2114
Rep
2,388
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob@BPC View Post
Had a 2013 BMW Alpina B7 on the dyno today, made impressive numbers in stock trim.

I did pull the stock file from the car (THANK YOU OBDII FLASHING) and diving into the software side and see whats different between this and a stock n63tu.
I'll be tuning this car later this year.
Bob, I was wondering if you have Stage 2 for n63tu ready? And if it's possible to flash it via OBD or not yet? Thank you
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2018, 05:37 PM   #39
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuSh View Post
I added drilled rotors, bought aftermarket roof spoiler (but haven installed it yet - can't find time), ventured into weight reduction: muffler delete, rear seat delete, lighter rims, thinking to install Momo race seat (lightweight) and maybe even Braille/Deka battery (stock x5 battery weighs 65lbs). Waiting for new OBD tunes to start coming out with some improvements and more hp/tq - it's sad that there's not much going on for n63tu platform. I mean there's tons of stuff for n54/55, but not much for n63tu
I'm preparing for exams and haven't had much time to really check what's going on with tunes/flash market

How is your car, hope you have no issues, running good?
Actually not much on the N55 compared to N54
N63TU i'll take it any day over N55 (Better Gains)
BPC should

Quote:
Originally Posted by DuSh View Post
Bob, I was wondering if you have Stage 2 for n63tu ready? And if it's possible to flash it via OBD or not yet? Thank you
OBD2 is out via Bootmod3 for a year now; you should of gone that route used BM3 OTS Map for Daily and BPC Custom Map (As they're a Dealer/Tuner in the list too) for your crazy fun times

Did u get Dragy ?
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80

Appreciate 1
DuSh2113.50
      01-27-2018, 12:07 AM   #40
DuSh
Colonel
DuSh's Avatar
2114
Rep
2,388
Posts

Drives: F15 X5 50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FSociety View Post
Actually not much on the N55 compared to N54
N63TU i'll take it any day over N55 (Better Gains)
BPC should



OBD2 is out via Bootmod3 for a year now; you should of gone that route used BM3 OTS Map for Daily and BPC Custom Map (As they're a Dealer/Tuner in the list too) for your crazy fun times

Did u get Dragy ?
I'm ashamed to say, I haven't got it yet, I wanted drilled rotors and some other stuff badly since I bought x5. I ran out of money lol, but it's my next thing to buy
Appreciate 0
      01-28-2018, 02:41 AM   #41
FSociety
IG @bmwF9xG80
FSociety's Avatar
3812
Rep
7,593
Posts

Drives: G80 M3, X4M, G07 X7m50
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC to NJ to Orlando FL

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2023 BMW G80 M3  [0.00]
2020 BMW X4MC  [0.00]
16' BMW X4 M40i  [10.00]
06 Cadillac STS  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuSh View Post
I'm ashamed to say, I haven't got it yet, I wanted drilled rotors and some other stuff badly since I bought x5. I ran out of money lol, but it's my next thing to buy
$149 :-p its the best mod for me
__________________
60-130mph 6.5s X4M #HCP
60-130mph 5.0s G80 M3 #OrlandoAutowerks Sauce

IG: @bmwF9XG80

Appreciate 1
DuSh2113.50
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:03 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST