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      09-14-2011, 12:43 PM   #551
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OK, so I sort of hope you're right and hope you're wrong at the same time

Right, because I hope my car if fine, but wrong because I do feel the damn thing especially on highway. Again, it seems super minor, especially in the left lane which is sort of slanted leftwards to begin with, so it kinda centers out.... Almost no pull at the city speeds. Again, "almost" but always a slight feel. Damn... should I pursue this thing or just leave it be? Mind would drift to another lane in about 5-7 seconds if left uncontrolled. Would reducing air pressure in the left wheel slightly adjust my problem? (and a second question, that's not air in those tires, is it? Nitrogen or smthg? I presume I cannot pump it myself?)
Ha! Welcome to my world. Every friend I have who currently owns an E9X BMW model has the same problem. It seems more pronounced with RWD BMW's or BMW's with the Sports Package with wider tires. My 328i pulls, my friends 335i E90 pulled, My friends 2008 335i pulls, my friends new 2011 335i E92 pulls, every loaner 3-series I have had pulls too.
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      09-14-2011, 01:22 PM   #552
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I have never felt it in my e46 328i. Maybe because they didn't discuss it so much in those damn forums LOL. No, seriously I have never noticed anything but the whole steering experience is so different anyway in the F10 with the electric steering, I wonder if the two issues are related.

That's exactly what I mean by the way:

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... I'm constantly making small steering corrections that either I don't have to do on other cars, or because their hydraulic assist feels so much better I don't notice that I'm doing it.....
I am about to test the theory of road crown affecting this (and the new more sensitive electric steering overblowing/making the problem way more visible that in the past BMW systems) - I will find a remote road and attempt to drive on the left lane against the traffic for a few seconds to see if it starts pulling to the left... Technically, aren't ALL roads (right lanes) slanted to the right slightly for drainage which would explain this whole mystery issue (and again - the new steering being so sensitive that the issue has become way more noticeable)? I do seem to feel a bit less of the pull on the left-most lane on a freeway...

I just for the life of me cannot imagine BMW mass producing flawed, beyond-tolerance cars...


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      09-26-2011, 10:59 PM   #553
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      09-27-2011, 02:08 AM   #554
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Oh wow. This seems to be a big problem. I am planning on doing an ED next year on 535. I hope they find solution soon.
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It ended up being two tires that were pushing/pulling the car to the right. BMWs alignment machine was calibrated wrong and producing bad readings which didn't aid in the troubleshooting process. Once their machine was re-calibrated they were able to determine the push/pull was coming from the tires. Too bad it took 3 weeks to figure it out!

So glad to have her back!
Onesy...just curious which dealership you use here in Vegas?
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      09-30-2011, 11:28 PM   #557
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Same thing here. New F10 535 with 700 miles has been pulling to the right as well. It's already been back once and everything was out of alignment

I am getting seriously pissed off at this..Haven't even hit 1000 miles and after being in service once already, it's got to head back again this week.
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      10-01-2011, 11:17 PM   #558
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Same thing here. New F10 535 with 700 miles has been pulling to the right as well. It's already been back once and everything was out of alignment

I am getting seriously pissed off at this..Haven't even hit 1000 miles and after being in service once already, it's got to head back again this week.
Did correcting the alignment fix anything? It's unclear from your post. Thanks.
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      10-01-2011, 11:22 PM   #559
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I'm happy to report that, after having my 535i in for two 5 day service visits, and insisting with the SA that the car was not "performing normally"; the pulling to the right problem appears to be fixed.
I got the car back on Friday and have been driving it for the last couple of days and am now satisfied that not only has the pulling issue been rectified but the overall steering feel has vastly improved as well.
According to my SA, they performed another alignment centered the steering wheel and applied another SW update provided by BMW.
FG - which dealer fixed your issue? I want a fix too!
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      10-01-2011, 11:56 PM   #560
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Yogi.Sorry about the unclear response. I saw the numbers from the alignment and they were all way off. After the alignment I thought it would be much better..Sad to report that it actually feels worse. I can now feel it at almost any speed
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Has anyone had their car replaced or bought back due to pulling to the right concerns – voluntarily by BMW of North America or under your state's Lemon Law? Please advise. Thank you!
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      10-03-2011, 08:41 AM   #562
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My 528i pulls slightly to the right also. I just had the car realigned and the condition presists. I don't have Active Steering. What should I try next?
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How many times have you had the car aligned and have you had to pay for the alignments?
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      10-04-2011, 12:29 PM   #564
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How many times have you had the car aligned and have you had to pay for the alignments?
Just one time on the alignment and I did have to pay. My 528i was a demo and had just over 4000 miles on it when I purchased it. I immediately put on 19" wheels and tires so I didn't mind paying for the alignment to make sure the tires would wear evenly. I also found a coupon for the alignment. The price was $129 which sounds on the low side for a BMW dealer alignment.

I am considering having the tires Road Force balanced to make sure they aren't contributing to the issue. I may swap the fronts side to side to see if that helps (Continental ExtremeContact DWS are asymmetrical, not directional so you can rotate side to side).
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      10-04-2011, 01:54 PM   #565
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Just one time on the alignment and I did have to pay. My 528i was a demo and had just over 4000 miles on it when I purchased it. I immediately put on 19" wheels and tires so I didn't mind paying for the alignment to make sure the tires would wear evenly. I also found a coupon for the alignment. The price was $129 which sounds on the low side for a BMW dealer alignment.

I am considering having the tires Road Force balanced to make sure they aren't contributing to the issue. I may swap the fronts side to side to see if that helps (Continental ExtremeContact DWS are asymmetrical, not directional so you can rotate side to side).
My car is an August 10 build that had a very noticeable pull to the right and a wandering/loose feel to the steering, expecially at higher speeds. I brought the car to the dealer for these issues in June and they performed a software update, rotated the 2 front tires and rotated the struts. The car drives soo much better. The steering tightened up and the pull to the right is virtually gone. The car seems to be very sensitive to road crown and will sometimes drift to the right but nothing like before.
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My car is an August 10 build that had a very noticeable pull to the right and a wandering/loose feel to the steering, expecially at higher speeds. I brought the car to the dealer for these issues in June and they performed a software update, rotated the 2 front tires and rotated the struts. The car drives soo much better. The steering tightened up and the pull to the right is virtually gone. The car seems to be very sensitive to road crown and will sometimes drift to the right but nothing like before.
What model do you have? Do you have Active Steering? I don't.
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What model do you have? Do you have Active Steering? I don't.
528i, no active steering.
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      10-05-2011, 01:19 PM   #568
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528i, no active steering.
Do you have more information on the "software update". Any information you have would be appreciated so when I call my dealer, I can give details.

Thanks,
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      10-05-2011, 04:55 PM   #569
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I test drove a 528 x today with a strong pull to the right. I noticed it and got used to it during the drive then came a cross this post.
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      10-06-2011, 07:29 AM   #570
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Do you have more information on the "software update". Any information you have would be appreciated so when I call my dealer, I can give details.

Thanks,
I dont have the work order but I pulled this from another forum, the shop performed the same procedure on mine. Your shop should have a service bulletin on how to correct the pulling to the right issue.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=549373
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I have a 523Li manufactured june 2011 (shanghai, china), had a problem also pulling to the right like when u accelerate steering wheel clicks a bit to the right and stiffs. Took it to the dealer twice and what they did was rotate tires, correct pressure for tires and change setting for alignment(maybe loosen the strut or suspension dont know what they meant).After the changes felt a bit comfortable BUT still shifting to the right plus the steering wheel is much looser than before
Does anyone have this kinda experience after the changes? they recommended a software upgrade for the next step ... but hinted might still have this shifting problem.
Well its a wonderful car but those RFT are just too expensive and attractive to nails
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      10-08-2011, 04:07 PM   #572
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I haven't been driving my car for two months now because I was tired of the car and also because I bought a 1997 E36 320i convertible which was much more fun to drive during the short "summer". Actually I was wondering where 15 years of technological improvement went as the 320i was handling much better than the F10. No umcomfortable ride, no pulling anywhere, no vague and wandering steering, no hard RFT.

Anyway, I put the winter tires on the F10 and drove on the Autobahn for two sixty mile trips. This car is just handling so awful. It pulls to the right and to the left depending on whatever, I don't know. The steering feels synthetic and it is a funny feeling that you can almost not describe. The easiest is to hold the steering wheel only with two fingers and let the car ride. This way you get a closer feeling of what is happening.

Somehow it feels as if you were driving a car where the steering is worn out in the middle so that the same amount of steer leads to different reactions depending on how far you have turned the steering wheel already.

Sorry if this sounds complicated but English is not my native language.
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