[bake]

Since I got my F10 I was under the impression that the car could not be driven away if the key fob was not inside of the car. Today I got in my car with the key fob, started it, but then took the key fob out of my pocket and left it in my garage. I was surprised that I was able to back out of my driveway and drive up the street without the car being disabled. Since I got my car I have left it running outside of stores, etc under the impression nobody could drive away with it. I guess I won't be doing that anymore. :

[sanyomats]

Interesting...that was my understanding too...I hope someone can clarify...

[dr.mba]

The car will run without the fob in it but once its turned off you wont be able to start it again. I too thought it would stop/get disabled after a certain distance but that is not the case..

MBA

[Vinfast]

Correct, you do lock it while it's running right?

[BMWrules7]

Originally Posted by bake

Since I got my F10 I was under the impression that the car could not be driven away if the key fob was not inside of the car. Today I got in my car with the key fob, started it, but then took the key fob out of my pocket and left it in my garage. I was surprised that I was able to back out of my driveway and drive up the street without the car being disabled. Since I got my car I have left it running outside of stores, etc under the impression nobody could drive away with it. I guess I won't be doing that anymore. :

Well, if the key fob battery failed or if the key fob electronics failed then the reliability of your car would hinge on a tiny battery in your fob or the fob itself.

That would be too risky.

Worse, if the motor shutdown if the fob lost contact then you could crash if you were in a critical driving maneuver.

Instead, the car displays a warning immediately after losing contact with the fob. The motor will stay running, but won't restart without a valid fob.

If the fob battery dies, your car can passively interrogate the fob if you hold it next to the spot indicated on the steering column.

[ibimmer954]

The car will run without the key fob, but it should be complaining with error messages on the main display and on the iDrive screen.

[Martin528]

Can you lock it with the fob out of the car and leave it running? Never tried it.

[dr.mba]

Yes you can

MBA

[WilliCO]

My wife's Volvo bings and complains incessantly until the key returns to the car. Not sure what my F10 does. In any case, it's not practical to actively disable the car other than keeping it from being restarted after it's turned off. To dangerous, too much liablity.

[HighConcept]

Originally Posted by dr.mba

The car will run without the fob in it but once its turned off you wont be able to start it again. I too thought it would stop/get disabled after a certain distance but that is not the case..

MBA

+1

[MELLOWYELLOW06]

does anyone else miss being able to stick a metal
let in the ignition?

[bake]

Originally Posted by BMWrules7

Well, if the key fob battery failed or if the key fob electronics failed then the reliability of your car would hinge on a tiny battery in your fob or the fob itself.

That would be too risky.

Worse, if the motor shutdown if the fob lost contact then you could crash if you were in a critical driving maneuver.

Instead, the car displays a warning immediately after losing contact with the fob. The motor will stay running, but won't restart without a valid fob.

If the fob battery dies, your car can passively interrogate the fob if you hold it next to the spot indicated on the steering column.

I think they could have designed the system to shut the car down as soon as the brake pedal is depressed and the key fob is not detected. That is how aftermarket remote start systems are designed and I think it is a good solution. That way as the brake pedal is depressed to engage "R" or "D" the car would just shut off. For manual transmission cars, the same could have been done once the clutch was engaged. Just my $0.02. I would have found the feature to be more useful if it worked that way.

[Alan l.]

It would be too risky to have the car shut off like someone else mentioned. There are times where i have my iphone in the same pocket as my F10's key and the phone causes enough interference where the car starts giving me the warning message on the idrive that the car isn't detected anymore. Imagine the car shutting down on me...

Alan

[Lee]

Tip: Don't drive somewhere with your wife with your key in your pocket, get out, and then let her drive away with the key still in your pocket.

[Donser]

Great Tip... With the start/stop feature enabled, will it still restart without the keyfob inside the car though?

Originally Posted by Lee

Tip: Don't drive somewhere with your wife with your key in your pocket, get out, and then let her drive away with the key still in your pocket.

[dr.mba]

Interesting! I dont have this feature since my car is a 2011. Someone else could chime in on this one!!

MBA

[bake]

Originally Posted by Lee

Tip: Don't drive somewhere with your wife with your key in your pocket, get out, and then let her drive away with the key still in your pocket.

No worries on that one. I don't let my wife drive my car!

[dr.mba]

LoL

MBA

[BMWrules7]

Originally Posted by Donser

Great Tip... With the start/stop feature enabled, will it still restart without the keyfob inside the car though?

Yes. The authorization for the engine start only takes place when you push the start/stop button.

The system does not interrogate the key fob when restarting after an ASS cycle.

Nevertheless, the system does ping the key fob repeatedly to make sure it remains in the car.

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by bake

Since I got my F10 I was under the impression that the car could not be driven away if the key fob was not inside of the car. Today I got in my car with the key fob, started it, but then took the key fob out of my pocket and left it in my garage. I was surprised that I was able to back out of my driveway and drive up the street without the car being disabled. Since I got my car I have left it running outside of stores, etc under the impression nobody could drive away with it. I guess I won't be doing that anymore. :

Thanks goodness!!

[WilliCO]

Originally Posted by bake

I think they could have designed the system to shut the car down as soon as the brake pedal is depressed and the key fob is not detected.

That could result in the car powering down in the middle of an interstate highway with traffic moving at 75 miles per hour. As a solution, it's a non-starter. Pun intended.

[bake]

Originally Posted by WJGreer

That could result in the car powering down in the middle of an interstate highway with traffic moving at 75 miles per hour. As a solution, it's a non-starter. Pun intended.

I meant if the car was in "P". If the car was in gear, I agree it should not shut down. They could simply use the speed sensor to detect that, but I guess if the sensor was faulty you run into the same liability issues.