[HelixBmw]

Hello,

I stumbled across an intake which seems to be a cheaper version of the N63intake.

Has anyone tried it?

It's priced right at $397

http://www.armmotorsports.com/BMW-F1...n63-intake.htm

[spyroz]

the price is decent, why don't you buy it and do a review on it buddy...

[Simple5]

I hit them up. Sounds like a variant of badblack's intake. The cones stay inside of the engine bay instead of behind the grills and they come with k&n filters instead of the stainless steel mesh that badblack's come with...

I may give this a try. At under 400 bucks that's not bad at all... I am kinda tired of waiting around for an intake solution but don't want to pay over 1k for an intake plus the people selling the used n63intakes here are flakes.

[Simple5]

Ordered. I'll report back with pics and a review but I'm also going to order the afe dry filter cones to replace the oiled k&n ones. Don't want to deal with oiling filters.

[spyroz]

Originally Posted by Simple3

I hit them up. Sounds like a variant of badblack's intake. The cones stay inside of the engine bay instead of behind the grills and they come with k&n filters instead of the stainless steel mesh that badblack's come with...

I may give this a try. At under 400 bucks that's not bad at all... I am kinda tired of waiting around for an intake solution but don't want to pay over 1k for an intake plus the people selling the used n63intakes here are flakes.

Well, that doesn't help because N63 engine produce so much HEAT inside the engine bay, it's like sucking extremely HOT air.... but anyway, good luck and let me know what's up.

[Simple5]

Originally Posted by spyroz

Well, that doesn't help because N63 engine produce so much HEAT inside the engine bay, it's like sucking extremely HOT air.... but anyway, good luck and let me know what's up.

Actually looking at the design and the install instructions that they sent me the filters are at the front and a portion of the intake snorkel is still intact (Or some type of air piping) and feeds outside air onto the filters. To me it actually makes more sense than having the filters open to the elements.

[BlackWidow]

Nope, that’s all hot air. Ambient temps in the engine bay are through the roof. I would add flex pipe just like badblack intake all the way to the grill or fabricate some type of piping and add couplers

[Simple5]

Adding a flex pipe and going to the front grills wouldn't be difficult either, I've already planned for that.. couplers, flex pipe and all... the biggest thing was the parts where the mass airflow sensors connect to. Either way sub 400 bucks and a little more invested (under 100) would still be less than a used gen 1 badblack intake.

I am in no way knocking badblack, he's a true pioneer of the n63, it's just nice that I can get something that's viable that I can tinker with without breaking the bank.

[HelixBmw]

Originally Posted by Simple3

Adding a flex pipe and going to the front grills wouldn't be difficult either, I've already planned for that.. couplers, flex pipe and all... the biggest thing was the parts where the mass airflow sensors connect to. Either way sub 400 bucks and a little more invested (under 100) would still be less than a used gen 1 badblack intake.

Let's see some pictures once your installation is completed. As well any new sounds?

[Simple5]

I will post pics but video clips and sound I'm gonna need a little help on that one but I'll be glad to do it.

[HelixBmw]

Originally Posted by Simple3

I will post pics but video clips and sound I'm gonna need a little help on that one but I'll be glad to do it.

For the video I would just upload to YouTube and make the video either public or you can just have it viewable by a link.

[spyroz]

Originally Posted by Simple3

Actually looking at the design and the install instructions that they sent me the filters are at the front and a portion of the intake snorkel is still intact (Or some type of air piping) and feeds outside air onto the filters. To me it actually makes more sense than having the filters open to the elements.

Hahahaha........there's NO air will travel into the engine bay unless you direct it with some piping. It's all pure evil in there......Lol

[Lowkey F10]

In this for updates

[hovik92]

Any news on this? I want it and want to make sure it's actually doing something. They also have catless downpipes for 400 bucks. Anyone tried those?

[HelixBmw]

Originally Posted by hovik92

Any news on this? I want it and want to make sure it's actually doing something. They also have catless downpipes for 400 bucks. Anyone tried those?

I am about to order mine. On the N63 Facebook group a few members have ordered the downpipes. Some say not the greatest welds but others have a
Good experience. I know one user also wrapped them as well.

[Simple5]

They just shipped mine and it's usps priority mail coming from Illinois. Should be here by Wed. I will snap a bunch of pics and install asap... I do want to get those afe dry cones ordered but I need to know the part numbers of the intakes K&N cones.

The downpipes are tempting but with no kind of o2 sim or dp fix then that's a no go for me (went through that with my old n54). Unless they come out with a catted solution.

[MavRick]

Originally Posted by spyroz

Well, that doesn't help because N63 engine produce so much HEAT inside the engine bay, it's like sucking extremely HOT air.... but anyway, good luck and let me know what's up.

the air temp of an intake isnt really gonna make a difference on our cars. we have intercoolers to take care of that. hahahaha. besides...i doubt the engine bay ambient temp is any near as hot as the turbos are....and the air has to pass thru them to get to the intercoolers, anyway.

i still contend that no intake design is going to produce much or anything other than noise until the decreasing diameter 'funnel' heading into the turbo is addressed. what good does a 8" diameter pipe do if you connect to a something that tapers to 3"?

[NV GUNS]

Originally Posted by MavRick

the air temp of an intake isnt really gonna make a difference on our cars. we have intercoolers to take care of that. hahahaha. besides...i doubt the engine bay ambient temp is any near as hot as the turbos are....and the air has to pass thru them to get to the intercoolers, anyway.

i still contend that no intake design is going to produce much or anything other than noise until the decreasing diameter 'funnel' heading into the turbo is addressed. what good does a 8" diameter pipe do if you connect to a something that tapers to 3"?

what are you talking about 8" diameter? nothing that size on the car. unless you are referring to the cone filter but this in not the way they are measured.

[MavRick]

Originally Posted by NV GUNS

what are you talking about 8" diameter? nothing that size on the car. unless you are referring to the cone filter but this in not the way they are measured.

I was just making a point. Obviously, the diameter isn’t 8 inches. Hahaha!!

My point was...the bend of the factory piping that goes INTO the turbo is always going to be a limiting factor on the intake. Notice how it doesn’t look like that on the M5’s engine...

[NV GUNS]

Originally Posted by MavRick

I was just making a point. Obviously, the diameter isn’t 8 inches. Hahaha!!

My point was...the bend of the factory piping that goes INTO the turbo is always going to be a limiting factor on the intake. Notice how it doesn’t look like that on the M5’s engine...

I agree with you the 90 to the turbo is a not good, but the M5 turbos orientation is different from the N63. there is nothing that could be done about that. but then again that is why BMW employs the most amount of people with PhDs than any other manufacturers. there is a reason for the air flow the way it is.

[535_BiTurbo]

I wonder what do these dyno by themselves. In for updates

[Simple5]

Got my intake today and will probably install it once I order some dry filter replacements AFE/AEM etc. Got so much stuff going on today. I have to say that this is a pretty quality product for under 400 bucks.. i have to look for a dry filter replacement for the k&n though because I don't want an oiled filter... yes, they flow more etc but I don't want to deal with cleaning/oiling etc... I'll just save the k&n for when I have to clean the drys..

Snapped a quick unpacking pic.