[ToyotaBMW]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

volkswagen need I say anything else......

Then the S7 VW is faster and outhandles your BMW.

Can you back up your statement which major parts of the S7 use VW parts?
Hmm is it the engine? Nope.
Is it the platform/Chassis? Nope.
Is it the transmission? Nope.
Is it the suspension? Nope.
Is it the Quattro/AWD? Nope.

Volkswagen definitely need I say anything more? Yes please elaborate.

[The X Men]

Originally Posted by rbudiman

S5 will be slightly cheaper because they dont have the crazily priced B&O ($4500) sound system. Instead, they only offer a $850 B&O sound system.

The B&O system in the S5 is pretty bad, even the $800 premium audio option on F10 is much better. On the Audi A6, A7 and A8, their B&O system is much better, but at 7 or 8 times the price.

[OzDriver]

Originally Posted by ToyotaBMW

Then the S7 VW is faster and outhandles your BMW.

Can you back up your statement which major parts of the S7 use VW parts?
Hmm is it the engine? Nope.
Is it the platform/Chassis? Nope.
Is it the transmission? Nope.
Is it the suspension? Nope.
Is it the Quattro/AWD? Nope.

Volkswagen definitely need I say anything more? Yes please elaborate.

Audi of the future - the sum of the parts of VW?

Body by SEAT
Engine by Skoda
Interior by Suzuki
Drivetrain by MAN
Suspension by Scania
Assembled by Porsche
Serviced by Lamborghini
Marketed by Bugatti
Fuel economy optimized by Bentley

[rbudiman]

I finally closed a deal and picked up my new 2013 RS5... LOL... I got tempted.. haha

[COBodom]

Originally Posted by rbudiman

I finally closed a deal and picked up my new 2013 RS5... LOL... I got tempted.. haha

CONGRATS on the new ride !!!!

[Alan l.]

RS5 is sweet. Congrats!

[mryakanisachoad]

RS5 is really nice. Sort of resembles the Cadillac CTS.

Actually - they look almost identical.

[rbudiman]

Thanks guys gotta give a shot to audi ..

[Rbembas_M3]

Originally Posted by COBodom

This statement was very true back in the 80’s. Today, it’s just an unsubstantiated line. With the current lineup there is noting that BMW delivers better than Audi (and vice versa). It’s just a matter of personal preference, loyalty to the brand, finally being able to show off with the BMW tag (still true for many), etc…

Some prefer Wagner over Strauss or XMas over Thanksgiving; doesn’t mean that one is better than the other.

But still it was Adolfo company

[Rbembas_M3]

Originally Posted by OzDriver

Audi of the future - the sum of the parts of VW?

Body by SEAT
Engine by Skoda
Interior by Suzuki
Drivetrain by MAN
Suspension by Scania
Assembled by Porsche
Serviced by Lamborghini
Marketed by Bugatti
Fuel economy optimized by Bentley

Just shows they bought failing companies and the parts are being made in shanghai. Yeah you forgot to mention that....

[The X Men]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

Just shows they bought failing companies and the parts are being made in shanghai. Yeah you forgot to mention that....

Give it a rest.

[Rbembas_M3]

Originally Posted by The X Men

Give it a rest.

okay will do

[Rbembas_M3]

for that kind of money should look at the 650i not a 5 series

[ToyotaBMW]

Originally Posted by rbudiman

I finally closed a deal and picked up my new 2013 RS5... LOL... I got tempted.. haha

Congrats.

Originally Posted by OzDriver

Audi of the future - the sum of the parts of VW?

Body by SEAT
Engine by Skoda
Interior by Suzuki
Drivetrain by MAN
Suspension by Scania
Assembled by Porsche
Serviced by Lamborghini
Marketed by Bugatti
Fuel economy optimized by Bentley

But still no rusting seats like the BMW F30.
Really it doesn't bother Audi owners that VW owns Audi. Just look at the this comparison. Due to the sharing of R&D among VW group and also sharing of buying among suppliers have allowed Audi to put together a car that outperforms or matches performance of the BMW at $20-30K less. I think that is a win. It may even force BMW to be more competitive with pricing and possibly move back to become more performance oriented.

[Rbembas_M3]

Originally Posted by ToyotaBMW

Then the S7 VW is faster and outhandles your BMW.

Can you back up your statement which major parts of the S7 use VW parts?
Hmm is it the engine? Nope.
Is it the platform/Chassis? Nope.
Is it the transmission? Nope.
Is it the suspension? Nope.
Is it the Quattro/AWD? Nope.

Volkswagen definitely need I say anything more? Yes please elaborate.

oh wow elaborate okay covette ZR1 smokes that S7

[ToyotaBMW]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

oh wow elaborate okay covette ZR1 smokes that S7

What a sports car beating a 4 door sports sedan in performance. Your statement sounds like sour grapes that the Audi beat the BMW in performance for $20-30K less.
Statements like your just lets people know that Audi is heading in the right direction.

[COBodom]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

But still it was Adolfo company

[ToyotaBMW]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

Unfortunately you are wrong again, you are the one comparing a rs5 to a 535i and the rs5 is a coupe. Msrp in the 80k not including options. That is what this thread is about.
The s7 Msrp starts at 80k not including options with a weak 4.0 a 550i loaded Msrp is around 71k with a 4.4 engine so wtf..... Are you talking about! When it all said and done its still a vw

When you tell someone they are wrong you should get your facts right.
First off the OP asked about the S5 and the 535i and I asked him to look at the RS5 if he thinks the S5 was amazing. Nowhere did I compare it to the 5er as I know that they are not similiar cars, unlike some people who compare a ZR1 to a S7.
Second you obviously can't read. the weak 4.0 in the S7 has the 650i GC of BMW beat performance wise in an article just posted in the forums on the front page. Read the comparison yourself and then comeback to me. Again you don't have your facts correct.

http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797346

Reading the article the only thing weak it looks like is the 5er which they mentioned should have been forgotten about and replaced by the 6series. LOL

You obviously saying that Audi's are VW's are just upset that there are better alternatives to BMW.

Hitler got one thing right with VW and the Beetle.

[Krash7172]

Originally Posted by rbembas535i

for that kind of money should look at the 650i not a 5 series

Agreed. Love the GC - 4 door and AWD. My 5 lease is done in Nov. Really interested in a phev 5 but doubt we will see it in US this year.

[LastFrontierBimmer]

RS5 will be a blast. Congratulations and enjoy.

[IaHawk]

I spent less than the $75 grand you are considering on a 2013 550i xdrive carbon black M sport with Dinan S2 chip, suspension, and exhaust. The total package including the Dinan mods came under $72 grand. I was trying to come close to an all-wheel drive M5 - mine doesn't have the double clutch transmission and is just a little less HP than the M5 - but the all wheel drive makes up for that. I had been looking at an RS5 or the S7 but went with the 550i - no regrets.

[LastFrontierBimmer]

Originally Posted by IaHawk

I spent less than the $75 grand you are considering on a 2013 550i xdrive carbon black M sport with Dinan S2 chip, suspension, and exhaust. The total package including the Dinan mods came under $72 grand. I was trying to come close to an all-wheel drive M5 - mine doesn't have the double clutch transmission and is just a little less HP than the M5 - but the all wheel drive makes up for that. I had been looking at an RS5 or the S7 but went with the 550i - no regrets.

Very nicely done! I still need rear passenger space and if I were after a performance beast, this would be a sweet way to go.