Please sign this thread to protest lack of M-Sport Suspension

geneatals · 12-16-2013, 11:40 AM

so let me get this straight, if you order/configure an f10 with msport suspension, but add DHP, you do you effectively remove the msport suspension?

shawnsheridan · 12-16-2013, 11:42 AM

Yes, it is a different suspension all together. M-Sport suspension is Passive and DHP is Active.

geneatals · 12-16-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Yes, it is a different suspension all together. M-Sport suspension is Passive and DHP is Active.

thank for the quick reply...i have a lot of factors to consider as of right now my e90 m3 lease is about to come to an end, so it's either purchase my e90 m3 or lease and f10 550, seems m sport with m sport suspension would be the go for me as far as "feel" if I were to switch.

SonicEndeavor · 12-17-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by geneatals

thank for the quick reply...i have a lot of factors to consider as of right now my e90 m3 lease is about to come to an end, so it's either purchase my e90 m3 or lease and f10 550, seems m sport with m sport suspension would be the go for me as far as "feel" if I were to switch.

Just make sure you take a good test drive of an F10 before deciding. It's a very different car than its predecessor and of course worlds different than an M3.

jayy178 · 12-17-2013, 11:53 PM

just picked up a 2014 535i M-Sport and it did include the 704 msport suspension...

ezmaass · 12-27-2013, 12:58 PM

Just bought a 550i xDrive M Sport with DHP yesterday - won't take delivery until Monday or Tuesday. I went back and forth on M Sport Suspension or DHP, and I hope I made the right decision here. I'm going from a 335i with sport suspension, and I admittedly tired of driving over poor city streets (even though it's rare) with that suspension but enjoyed it immensely on smooth highways.

So, for those with an opinion to share, M-Sport Suspension or DHP? From everyone at BMW I spoke to, and the reviews I've seen from the major "car people," it seems the trend is to push the DHP. Could this be why BMW was looking to drop the M Sport Suspension? Do they just intend for those who want a sportier suspension to opt for the DHP that includes the adaptive dampers and anti-roll?

I decided to get the DHP after reading a bunch of reviews that basically concluded, "your F10 won't drive as well without it." I suspect the passive M Sport Suspension would be just as firm as the "sport" or "sport+" setting on the adaptive dampers, but then again you also get the anti-roll with DHP, which appears to be an active system to counter roll in corners - next nearest option would be passive anti-roll bars with the M Sport Suspension?

Just curious what you guys think who have owned F10s with these two different suspensions.

remmib · 12-27-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ezmaass

Just bought a 550i xDrive M Sport with DHP yesterday - won't take delivery until Monday or Tuesday. I went back and forth on M Sport Suspension or DHP, and I hope I made the right decision here. I'm going from a 335i with sport suspension, and I admittedly tired of driving over poor city streets (even though it's rare) with that suspension but enjoyed it immensely on smooth highways.

So, for those with an opinion to share, M-Sport Suspension or DHP? From everyone at BMW I spoke to, and the reviews I've seen from the major "car people," it seems the trend is to push the DHP. Could this be why BMW was looking to drop the M Sport Suspension? Do they just intend for those who want a sportier suspension to opt for the DHP that includes the adaptive dampers and anti-roll?

I decided to get the DHP after reading a bunch of reviews that basically concluded, "your F10 won't drive as well without it." I suspect the passive M Sport Suspension would be just as firm as the "sport" or "sport+" setting on the adaptive dampers, but then again you also get the anti-roll with DHP, which appears to be an active system to counter roll in corners - next nearest option would be passive anti-roll bars with the M Sport Suspension?

Just curious what you guys think who have owned F10s with these two different suspensions.

Not sure if you know since you bought an xdrive, but there's no M-sport suspension for the xdrive even if the car has m-sport package.

ezmaass · 12-27-2013, 07:26 PM

remmib - No, I wasn't aware. When I configure the car online, it says that adding DHP will "delete M sport suspension" so I just assumed the M Sport package provided it. But I did notice that under the M Sport line it does NOT say it includes a new suspension - interesting conflict there on the site. Either way, I opted for the DHP based upon the feedback, reviews, etc. After having the sport suspension on the 335i, I'm ready for something that allows for a bit more cushion when necessary. Thanks for the info!

BossBeamer · 12-29-2013, 06:02 PM

So does '11 535i with m sport have the m sport suspension? I used one of those links and put the VIN and it says m sport package, and another option it says "S2VAA
Adaptive Drive Chassis & suspens. setup"Adaptive Drive"

So do I have m sport suspension?

remmib · 12-29-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossBeamer

So does '11 535i with m sport have the m sport suspension? I used one of those links and put the VIN and it says m sport package, and another option it says "S2VAA
Adaptive Drive Chassis & suspens. setup"Adaptive Drive"

So do I have m sport suspension?

No, m-sport suspension are passive dampers and swaybars.

mness · 12-29-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

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Originally Posted by BossBeamer

So does '11 535i with m sport have the m sport suspension? I used one of those links and put the VIN and it says m sport package, and another option it says "S2VAA
Adaptive Drive Chassis & suspens. setup"Adaptive Drive"

So do I have m sport suspension?

No, m-sport suspension are passive dampers and swaybars.

And the "M Sport suspension", the passive non adjustable sport suspension, was introduced in the 2013 model year. So no on a 2011.

BossBeamer · 12-30-2013, 11:08 AM

So which is a better suspension? Should I be mad at the fact I don't have the m suspension?

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jayy178 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 240 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe / 2014 535i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	just picked up a 2014 535i M-Sport and it did include the 704 msport suspension... __________________ 2003 E46 323i (former) 2007 E92 335i M-Sport (former) 2014 F10 535i M-Sport (former) 2016 F30 328i M-Sport 2016 F15 X5 x35i M-Sport
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12-27-2013, 12:58 PM	#72
ezmaass Lieutenant Colonel 372 Rep 1,698 Posts Drives: '17 650xi GC / '15 Audi R8 V10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Just bought a 550i xDrive M Sport with DHP yesterday - won't take delivery until Monday or Tuesday. I went back and forth on M Sport Suspension or DHP, and I hope I made the right decision here. I'm going from a 335i with sport suspension, and I admittedly tired of driving over poor city streets (even though it's rare) with that suspension but enjoyed it immensely on smooth highways. So, for those with an opinion to share, M-Sport Suspension or DHP? From everyone at BMW I spoke to, and the reviews I've seen from the major "car people," it seems the trend is to push the DHP. Could this be why BMW was looking to drop the M Sport Suspension? Do they just intend for those who want a sportier suspension to opt for the DHP that includes the adaptive dampers and anti-roll? I decided to get the DHP after reading a bunch of reviews that basically concluded, "your F10 won't drive as well without it." I suspect the passive M Sport Suspension would be just as firm as the "sport" or "sport+" setting on the adaptive dampers, but then again you also get the anti-roll with DHP, which appears to be an active system to counter roll in corners - next nearest option would be passive anti-roll bars with the M Sport Suspension? Just curious what you guys think who have owned F10s with these two different suspensions.
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ezmaass Lieutenant Colonel 372 Rep 1,698 Posts Drives: '17 650xi GC / '15 Audi R8 V10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	remmib - No, I wasn't aware. When I configure the car online, it says that adding DHP will "delete M sport suspension" so I just assumed the M Sport package provided it. But I did notice that under the M Sport line it does NOT say it includes a new suspension - interesting conflict there on the site. Either way, I opted for the DHP based upon the feedback, reviews, etc. After having the sport suspension on the 335i, I'm ready for something that allows for a bit more cushion when necessary. Thanks for the info!
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12-29-2013, 06:02 PM	#75
BossBeamer Private 5 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2011 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mi iTrader: (0)	So does '11 535i with m sport have the m sport suspension? I used one of those links and put the VIN and it says m sport package, and another option it says "S2VAA Adaptive Drive Chassis & suspens. setup"Adaptive Drive" So do I have m sport suspension?
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BossBeamer Private 5 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2011 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mi iTrader: (0)	So which is a better suspension? Should I be mad at the fact I don't have the m suspension?
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