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      06-09-2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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Why Debadge a BMW

I would be interested to know why do some BMW drivers debadge their cars..?. I have noticed here in the UK more and more F10`s without their engine size...why do drivers do this is...what is the real reason..?
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      06-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #2
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my previous E39 530i msport I debadged as I thought it looked cleaner. But my F10 530d I've left the badge on this time.
Don't want poeple to think its a 520D!
looks liek it might be a bugger to clean though so perhaps I should have removed it....
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I think it is mostly a case of 520d owners wanting people to think they their car has a bigger engine than it actually has.

I wear my 520d badge loud and proud and think of the BIK!!!!
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my previous E39 530i msport I debadged as I thought it looked cleaner. But my F10 530d I've left the badge on this time.
Don't want poeple to think its a 520D!
looks liek it might be a bugger to clean though so perhaps I should have removed it....
Surely to drive a F10 is more important that be embarrassed by the engine size. What would prefer to drive a 520 or a basic non interesting A6...??
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I would be interested to know why do some BMW drivers debadge their cars..?. I have noticed here in the UK more and more F10`s without their engine size...why do drivers do this is...what is the real reason..?
To avoid the shame of driving a 520d, 525d, or 528i

However - and this is key - if you do this to avoid the shame of being scene in one of these limp F10s, then you must also claim you are doing it for aesthetics or else face further embarrassment.
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Surely to drive a F10 is more important that be embarrassed by the engine size. What would prefer to drive a 520 or a basic non interesting A6...??
Between a 4 cylinder F10 and an A6 3.0T, I would pick the A6 3.0T every time.
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      06-09-2012, 03:05 PM   #7
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I think it is mostly a case of 520d owners wanting people to think they their car has a bigger engine than it actually has.

I wear my 520d badge loud and proud and think of the BIK!!!!
Well said, and I applaud your honesty.
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I do it because it's easier to wax/polish the area without those badges being in the way. I haven't debadged my 550i yet though.
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Between a 4 cylinder F10 and an A6 3.0T, I would pick the A6 3.0T every time.
I agree this is a no brainer when you consider the Audi 3.0T, but what if the cars are both basic specs with 2.0 or 2.5 engines..?
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I agree this is a no brainer when you consider the Audi 3.0T, but what if the cars are both basic specs with 2.0 or 2.5 engines..?
Then BMW all the way. Audi's smaller engined A6s are front wheel drive. No way would I drive a front wheel drive 4 cylinder Audi over a RWD 4 cylinder BMW.
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Then BMW all the way. Audi's smaller engined A6s are front wheel drive. No way would I drive a front wheel drive 4 cylinder Audi over a RWD 4 cylinder BMW.
My point exactly, if you are pleased and proud to drive a BMW, why bother to debadge...? Here in the UK you don`t see many debadged Audi`s.
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My point exactly, if you are pleased and proud to drive a BMW, why bother to debadge...? Here in the UK you don`t see many debadged Audi`s.
But Audi now debadge the car for you. You cannot get a 2.0 or 3.0 Tdi or 2.0/3.0 TFSI on the back any more. It just says TDI or TFSI with no reference to engine capacity.....
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But Audi now debadge the car for you. You cannot get a 2.0 or 3.0 Tdi or 2.0/3.0 TFSI on the back any more. It just says TDI or TFSI with no reference to engine capacity.....
OK, so Audi owners don`t get a choice, but this does not answer the orginal question.
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      06-09-2012, 04:09 PM   #14
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I would be interested to know why do some BMW drivers debadge their cars..?. I have noticed here in the UK more and more F10`s without their engine size...why do drivers do this is...what is the real reason..?
Surprisingly, in some corners, boasting that you have a smaller engine by leaving your badge on might be a good thing.

For example, if you were one of those simple minded advocates for Auto Start and Stop and you don't want to violate your Earthworm Code of Ethics then you best have the smallest engine BMW offers or risk being rightly called a hypocrite. So, those misguided folks would want to leave their badge on that shows they have the smaller engine.

It can go the other way too. Some people might not want to brag they have the bigger engine.

But, there is truth that it does seem cleaner without the badge. The rear deck of a BMW is a beautiful thing. There is no rear deck in the world as beautiful as a 3 series convertible---any vintage. That badge can be a distraction in what would otherwise be near flawless beauty.
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Surprisingly, in some corners, boasting that you have a smaller engine by leaving your badge on might be a good thing.

For example, if you were one of those simple minded advocates for Auto Start and Stop and you don't want to violate your Earthworm Code of Ethics then you best have the smallest engine BMW offers or risk being rightly called a hypocrite. So, those misguided folks would want to leave their badge on that shows they have the smaller engine.

It can go the other way too. Some people might not want to brag they have the bigger engine.

But, there is truth that it does seem cleaner without the badge. The rear deck of a BMW is a beautiful thing. There is no rear deck in the world as beautiful as a 3 series convertible---any vintage. That badge can be a distraction in what would otherwise be near flawless beauty.
Interesting points you make and most likely true in some instances...I agree the 3 convertible is better without a badge.
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To avoid the shame of driving a 520d, 525d, or 528i

However - and this is key - if you do this to avoid the shame of being scene in one of these limp F10s, then you must also claim you are doing it for aesthetics or else face further embarrassment.
LOL
Great answer!

In my case, I ordered it without model designation because I honestly think the F11 looks beautiful badgeless. And it should be easy to judge what engine size it is by noticing one exhaust pipe on each side and that pristine I6 diesel engine rattle…
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LOL
Great answer!

In my case, I ordered it without model designation because I honestly think the F11 looks beautiful badgeless. And it should be easy to judge what engine size it is by noticing one exhaust pipe on each side and that pristine I6 diesel engine rattle…
I think the point made by Stealth is very valid. It is only easy to spot a 535 for the reasons you gave, but in the UK all 530, 528, 525 and 520 have the same exhaust.

Are their any drivers of debadged F10`s who wish to comment...????

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But Audi now debadge the car for you. You cannot get a 2.0 or 3.0 Tdi or 2.0/3.0 TFSI on the back any more. It just says TDI or TFSI with no reference to engine capacity.....
Not in the US. In the US, the entry level A6 says 2.0T and also has a missing quattro badge do denote its fwd, whereas the other model says 3.0T with Quattro underneath.
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It just looks cleaner. If I had an X Drive, I'd pull those badges too. I could care less which model/engine people 'think' I've got - I know what I've got. Plus, anyone who knows the U.S. F10 can tell a 528 from a 535 from a 550 - they all have different rear bumpers and tailpipe configurations.
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My previous E60 520d the badge was on and left on even after I added the M package, with the F10 I opted out as I find the space between the BMW centre badge and the 520d to small, the space is much smaller than in the E60, with the badge the rear space looked too busy.

I believe being a BMW driver on the 1st place is being someone who don't give a dam about opinion of others, I found the fact this question is even raised somehow stepping away from what this forum should be about, badge in or out gives has no impact on my opinion on the driver behind it, for a simple reason it is a BMW, I am big cars fun with great interest on the looks, I go for what I like rather than what others opinion, here in Ireland for example the rules does not apply since what we pay for a 520d is the price of a 530 if not 535 in the UK .
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To avoid the shame of driving a 520d, 525d, or 528i

However - and this is key - if you do this to avoid the shame of being scene in one of these limp F10s, then you must also claim you are doing it for aesthetics or else face further embarrassment.
From what I understand your starting price of a M5 in the states is around $90k - I pay $200k for my 525d xdrive touring here in Norway. I orderd mine with the badge, if I were to order a 550d or 535 I would have removed it. And if I were to order a petrol engine that big I would have changed my own name and social security number

I get that your a show-of-guy, and I dont have anything against that. Just dont think everyone else thinks like you..
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From what I understand your starting price of a M5 in the states is around $90k - I pay $200k for my 525d xdrive touring here in Norway. I orderd mine with the badge, if I were to order a 550d or 535 I would have removed it. And if I were to order a petrol engine that big I would have changed my own name and social security number

I get that your a show-of-guy, and I dont have anything against that. Just dont think everyone else thinks like you..
I totally understand what you're saying, but I took stealth's comment as tongue in cheek, ironic humor. I might be wrong, though!
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