Lower Suspension (H&R) = brocken CV boots

gragi · 04-22-2014, 07:27 AM

I just found out that both CV outer boots have cracked and leaked lots of grease out. Diagnose: lowered suspension. All the dealers I have visited have denied to put it through warranty and I will have to foot the bill $1000-$1500. I was told by 3 BMW dealerships in Michigan and 2 in Toronto that this is the first case of broken CV Boots on a F10 they seen.
Anyone has seen this or any advice? If it is the H&R how could it happen? Its just rubber... Plus if its H&R I cant afford to have my cv boots replaced every year

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated

G

1FastSicilian · 04-22-2014, 08:43 AM

Throw your stock springs back in and take it to a different dealer.

gragi · 04-22-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

Throw your stock springs back in and take it to a different dealer.

Not worth it bro. Thanks though

crono06 · 04-22-2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

Throw your stock springs back in and take it to a different dealer.

In hindsight, that's probably what you should have done from the beginning. Do BMW dealers put notes on customer accounts/VIN's regarding mods/changes like Audi/VW dealers do?

remmib · 04-22-2014, 10:49 AM

Guess I have to keep an eye on those since I'm even lower on coils.

gragi · 04-22-2014, 10:59 AM

I am starting to think wether install had something to go with it, since I know there is a lot of us here with lowered suspension and no one is coming forward with broken cv boots

gragi · 04-28-2014, 09:18 PM

Anyone else experienced broken cv boots caused by lowering?

DriveWFO · 04-28-2014, 10:10 PM

I don't understand how lowering the car would cause CV boot issues. Wouldn't the normal range of suspension movement do the same? Doesn't make sense.

yendor · 04-28-2014, 11:28 PM

My guess is that the springs are not at fault. It was the installer that is at fault. Some guys remove the hub to gain access to the suspension strut and in the process have to remove the drive shaft. When it's time to reassemble, they whack the shaft back it (from the back). That opens up the rear seal...look for impact marks on the rear of the drive shaft..

Good luck

Alan l. · 04-29-2014, 09:00 AM

I had this happen to my old 535xi. It was installer issue. They probably over stressed the boot during the install and caused it to tear.

Alan

VMRWheels · 04-29-2014, 05:41 PM

I've gone through a few CV boots on my car, which is pretty low, so it can happen. Might not the most common on this particular platform, but if you look into other applications, it's a lot more common than you think. I've replaced mine probably three or so times at this point.

gragi · 05-01-2014, 12:14 PM

I hope its the installer because I don't wanna have to change the cv boots every year. It gets pricey $1500 per year only to replace outer CV boots.

Alan l. · 05-01-2014, 12:23 PM

I can see how extremely lowered cars having constant CV Boot issues but most springs for the F10 only lower it 1"-1.25" so I am pretty sure its more to do with installer error.

Alan

gragi · 05-01-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

I can see how extremely lowered cars having constant CV Boot issues but most springs for the F10 only lower it 1"-1.25" so I am pretty sure its more to do with installer error.

Alan

Tried contacting him with no luck. Plus since I was referred there I sorta trusted him and did not even get a receipt just paid cash $260 I believe. For sure without a receipt I don't have much of a chance to put this on him/installer

virtualbong · 05-02-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crono06

In hindsight, that's probably what you should have done from the beginning. Do BMW dealers put notes on customer accounts/VIN's regarding mods/changes like Audi/VW dealers do?

When I brought my old 07 328xi into the dealership to get my rear left brake light structure fixed, I suddenly noticed in the paperwork that they had opened up my hood and put down "Aftermarket Intake"...so I think they do put it in their system...at least in the specific dealership's system.

half man half amazin · 05-20-2014, 09:49 PM

I've been lowered on H&R springs for 2 years now, no problems at all!

djtallrick · 05-23-2014, 01:01 PM

15,000 Miles,2014 550i,no problems with my car!!!
Ride perfect.
(20" wheels & H&R)

mdrobc13 · 05-25-2014, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by half man half amazin

I've been lowered on H&R springs for 2 years now, no problems at all!

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Originally Posted by djtallrick

15,000 Miles,2014 550i,no problems with my car!!!
Ride perfect.
(20" wheels & H&R)

Same here. 2012 F10 550i w/H&R's and no issues what so ever. In fact it was the 1st mod I did and I had it done at my dealership to ensure there weren't any problems with fitment or ride or alignment...therefore I'd hope if I had similar problems as yours I'd definitely get some good will there. GL and keep us posted.

nickdrivesm3 · 06-03-2014, 10:37 AM

How many miles are on your 535? I've had to do a lot of outer CV boot repairs in my years of wrenching, none of them were induced by a lowered car or during installation of springs.

gragi · 06-03-2014, 11:05 AM

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How many miles are on your 535? I've had to do a lot of outer CV boot repairs in my years of wrenching, none of them were induced by a lowered car or during installation of springs.

It happened at 40000 miles today I have 54000 and hope I have not damaged anything else....

nickdrivesm3 · 06-03-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gragi

It happened at 40000 miles today I have 54000 and hope I have not damaged anything else....

In theory it should be ok, depends on if the CV boots lost all of their grease.

gragi · 06-03-2014, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gragi

It happened at 40000 miles today I have 54000 and hope I have not damaged anything else....

In theory it should be ok, depends on if the CV boots lost all of their grease.

It lost lots of grease for sure

04-22-2014, 07:27 AM	#1
gragi Private First Class 10 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 535i xDr F10 M Sport Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Lower Suspension (H&R) = brocken CV boots I just found out that both CV outer boots have cracked and leaked lots of grease out. Diagnose: lowered suspension. All the dealers I have visited have denied to put it through warranty and I will have to foot the bill $1000-$1500. I was told by 3 BMW dealerships in Michigan and 2 in Toronto that this is the first case of broken CV Boots on a F10 they seen. Anyone has seen this or any advice? If it is the H&R how could it happen? Its just rubber... Plus if its H&R I cant afford to have my cv boots replaced every year Any thoughts are greatly appreciated G __________________ 1996 E36 328i Touring 2000 E46 328Ci 2004 E46 M3 Dinan Exhaust 2011 535xDrive F10 AFE CATBACK, AFE SCORCHER, AFE Performance Air Filter, H&R, AR Down Pipe, ER Charge Pipe.
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gragi Private First Class 10 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 535i xDr F10 M Sport Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I am starting to think wether install had something to go with it, since I know there is a lot of us here with lowered suspension and no one is coming forward with broken cv boots __________________ 1996 E36 328i Touring 2000 E46 328Ci 2004 E46 M3 Dinan Exhaust 2011 535xDrive F10 AFE CATBACK, AFE SCORCHER, AFE Performance Air Filter, H&R, AR Down Pipe, ER Charge Pipe.
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gragi Private First Class 10 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 535i xDr F10 M Sport Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Anyone else experienced broken cv boots caused by lowering? __________________ 1996 E36 328i Touring 2000 E46 328Ci 2004 E46 M3 Dinan Exhaust 2011 535xDrive F10 AFE CATBACK, AFE SCORCHER, AFE Performance Air Filter, H&R, AR Down Pipe, ER Charge Pipe.
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DriveWFO Private First Class 46 Rep 108 Posts Drives: F10, F15 Join Date: May 2011 Location: PA iTrader: (2)	I don't understand how lowering the car would cause CV boot issues. Wouldn't the normal range of suspension movement do the same? Doesn't make sense.
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04-28-2014, 11:28 PM	#9
yendor Based on a little red dot 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: F10 535 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: singapore iTrader: (0)	My guess is that the springs are not at fault. It was the installer that is at fault. Some guys remove the hub to gain access to the suspension strut and in the process have to remove the drive shaft. When it's time to reassemble, they whack the shaft back it (from the back). That opens up the rear seal...look for impact marks on the rear of the drive shaft.. Good luck
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Alan l. Major General 5428 Rep 8,801 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	I had this happen to my old 535xi. It was installer issue. They probably over stressed the boot during the install and caused it to tear. Alan __________________
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gragi Private First Class 10 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 535i xDr F10 M Sport Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I hope its the installer because I don't wanna have to change the cv boots every year. It gets pricey $1500 per year only to replace outer CV boots. __________________ 1996 E36 328i Touring 2000 E46 328Ci 2004 E46 M3 Dinan Exhaust 2011 535xDrive F10 AFE CATBACK, AFE SCORCHER, AFE Performance Air Filter, H&R, AR Down Pipe, ER Charge Pipe.
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Alan l. Major General 5428 Rep 8,801 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	I can see how extremely lowered cars having constant CV Boot issues but most springs for the F10 only lower it 1"-1.25" so I am pretty sure its more to do with installer error. Alan __________________
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nickdrivesm3 Motorsport Product Genius 11 Rep 87 Posts Drives: BMWs...duh Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	How many miles are on your 535? I've had to do a lot of outer CV boot repairs in my years of wrenching, none of them were induced by a lowered car or during installation of springs.
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