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07-25-2014, 02:53 PM | #1 |
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F10 535i/xi Dinan available
Got this email from our Dinan rep at the dealership here in Canada:
-------------- D-TRONICS Performance Tuner For the F10 535i/xi D-TRONICS Performance Tuner for F10 535i (N55) (RWD & xDrive) For vehicles with a production date before July 2013 (Mechanical Diaphragm Wastegate) Stock Performance: 300 HP, 300 lb-ft torque With D-TRONICS Tuner (Stage 1): 364 HP, 375 lb-ft torque Installed $2420.00 + GST D-TRONICS Performance Tuner Description The D-TRONICS Performance Tuner is a highly engineered and sophisticated piece of computer hardware and software that enhances engine performance, without negating or voiding your new car warranty coverage and without affecting long term reliability or the functionality of on-board diagnostic systems. It was also designed to be emissions legal in 50 states (E.O. Pending). The ultimate objective of developing this piece of technology was to provide the ability to control every signal entering and exiting the BMW factory Engine Control Unit. These items are unique to Dinan and together they embody the apex of performance engineering in a powerful, reliable, and warrantied package. The Dinan Difference The biggest benefit of Dinan's D-TRONICS Performance Tuner is our ECU has the... "...capability of setting an optimum target lambda (fuel mixture) as well as correcting short term trim which is the difference between target and scheduled fuel mixture. By matching these two correctly we can reduce knock sensor activity which will make smoother performance, protect the catalyst, increase power and allow us to make it emissions legal."- Steve Dinan The Dinan Difference is possible by employing a full staff of talented engineers that are well rounded in all aspects of their job. Manipulating these signals with an adept hand all the while keeping an engine running at its best and with the most reliable power is what Dinan is all about. Well Engineered Plug-in tuning devices all have one thing in common, they send a modified signal to the factory ECU, telling it the boost pressure is below target values. This then causes the factory ECU to raise the boost pressure to what it thinks is the correct value. This modified boost pressure signal causes errors in fuel mixture and ignition timing. These errors can cause the on-board diagnostics systems to set faults, but they can also cause exceedingly high catalyst temperatures and a loss of power. In addition, when power is increased, exhaust gas temperature will increase as well and this must be countered with a slightly richer air/fuel mixture. The D-TRONICS Performance Tuner uniquely has the capability to adjust target Lambda, correct short term trim as well as ignition timing errors induced by raising boost pressure. This enables Dinan calibration engineers to optimize air/fuel mixture and ignition timing at elevated boost pressure throughout the entire gamut of engine RPM and engine load. Additionally, the ability to correct short term trim corrections (the difference between target and scheduled fuel mixture) remain within OEM specifications. This minimizes knock sensor activity, which in turn means smooth engine performance, catalyst protection and power increase, while this is also required to make the car emissions legal. Dinan engineers have worked for two years on the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner in efforts to provide BMW enthusiasts with Performance without Sacrifice. State-of-the-art Hardware The D-TRONICS Performance Tuner is engineered using the best possible components and advanced hardware. The most obvious and visible component is the elaborate wiring harness. Using OE connectors and an expandable braided wiring sleeves ensures that all visible components appear as if they come straight from the factory. More importantly however it guarantees long lasting and dependable performance due to the use of high heat, moisture and abrasion resistant materials and design. The other hardware element involved is the Dinan electronic control unit (ECU) itself. While its outward appearance may seem tame, the processing power and sophistication held within its internal circuitry is anything but. Capable of delivering signals to various systems at an astonishing 4000 times per second the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner yields the power to control all current signals delivered to the ECU as well as those developed in the future without a hiccup in performance or reliability. This immense processing power equates to a high degree of engine control resulting in a much lower likelihood of setting a fault. In addition smoother running conditions and superior drivability are achieved, all of which are Dinan hallmarks. Unmatched Warranty Dinan's comprehensive warranty program, introduced in 1997, provides superior warranty coverage to that which you would find elsewhere. If your vehicle is currently covered by the vehicle manufacturer's new car limited warranty, Dinan® products are warranted for the remaining term of the vehicle manufacturer's new car limited warranty. The manufacturer's new car warranty is limited to 4 years or 50,000 miles (80,000 kilometers in Canada), commencing on the date of first retail sale or the date the vehicle is first placed in-service as a demonstrator or company vehicle, whichever is earlier. Dinan's warranties are transferable when ownership of the vehicle into which the Dinan products were originally installed is sold. BMW automobiles can now be performance-tuned without the associated concern of negatively affecting the new car warranty coverage. Drivability There is more to a tune than just cranking up the boost. Power needs to come on smoothly and in a predictable way to make the car as fun to drive at wide open throttle as cruising around town. It is your BMW, but reborn with new found acceleration and speed. Designed for the Future The Dinan D-TRONICS Performance Tuner was engineered with future expansion of functionality in mind. Boasting the most powerful processing power on the market the D-TRONICS Performance Tuner can handle more functions and processes than any of its contemporaries. To that end the Dinan performance tuner is capable of interfacing with the CAN and FlexRay communication systems which allow for controlling powertrain functions, among others. This means that when new functions are developed there will be no need for a new box, just a short software update at your local Dinan dealer. |
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Gotta call BS to at least one of those claims. The JB4 (plug in tuner) does not compromise Air/Fuel ratio. In fact, there is zero difference in A/F with and without it.
And it's -75% less expensive.
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more Dinan bull shit gimmicks =D still waiting for a dinan car to give me run for my money
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I'd personally like to see a comparison done by someone who has/had a JB4 and this tune. Then I'll judge which one is worth the $$$. Can anyone chime in for this (obviously when they make their way into a regular owners car)?
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Didn't want to start a flame war, merely letting everyone know that the Dinan option seems finally closer. |
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Fair amount of hands on experience with bolt ons and software/ecu upgrades on non BMW vehicles. I'd like to boost the boost but like the warranty. Read the email I got from Dinan and saw this thread so figured I'd ask about Dinan alternatives if one wants to keep relationship with local dealer who has been good to me on this and other BMW's. This is not a huge power jump for $2k IMO. But warranty is key for my new cars. Sorry for newbie question...
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The dealership sent the following warranty document, that a customer is expected to sign:
--------------- I here by acknowledge that by installing Dinan software I’ve read and understand the following warranty details: Cars Covered by the original vehicle manufacturer's new car limited warranty If your vehicle is currently covered by the vehicle manufacturer’s new car limited warranty, Dinan products are warranted for the remaining term of the vehicle manufacturer’s new car limited warranty. The manufacturer’s new car warranty is limited to 4 years or 80,000 kilometers in Canada, commencing on the date of first retail sale or the date the vehicle is first placed in-service as a demonstrator or company vehicle, whichever is earlier. Dinan’s warranties are transferable when ownership of the vehicle into which the Dinan products were originally installed is sold. To obtain service under this warranty, the vehicle must be brought, upon discovery of a malfunction or defect in materials and/or workmanship, to the workshop of any Authorized Dinan Dealer, during normal business hours. Proof of purchase in the form of a lawful invoice is required. The Authorized Dinan Dealer will, without charge for parts or labor, repair or replace the defective Dinan component(s), as well as any original vehicle manufacturer’s component(s) that may have been directly affected by a Dinan component, using new or authorized re manufactured parts. The decision to repair or replace said parts is at the sole discretion of Dinan and/or the original vehicle manufacturer. Parts for which replacements are supplied under this limited warranty become the property of Dinan and/or the original vehicle manufacturer. In all cases, a reasonable period of time must be allowed for warranty repairs to be completed after the vehicle is delivered to the Authorized Dinan Dealer. Cars no longer covered by the original vehicle manufacturer's new car limited warranty Dinan Performance Products are warranted for a 2-year, unlimited mileage period from the date of original purchase. Dinan’s warranties are transferable when ownership of the vehicle into which the Dinan products were originally installed is sold. Further details can be read on www.dinancars.com Extended Warranty Extended warranty will not be available for my vehicle after the original vehicle manufacture warranty expires. Customer Name, Customer Address, Customer Signature, Date, Vehicle VIN Number, |
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Still vague, some extended warranties might still work I would guess, they can't control the free market, if some company decides to provide extended warranties, they might do so, or exclude the engine if upgraded etc. a number of variables not addressed in the Dinan language there. IMO.
Maybe they are referring to the Dinan parts.
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I got it last week. Haven't had too much time driving yet, but the car is definitely quicker. I took it for a short run on one of my favorite twisty mountain roads and in sport mode it was a lot of fun! Need to go on a good road trip to give it a good test.
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Can't tell much yet about gas mileage. I've been a little heavy on the pedal since the tune. Also, I do a lot of city driving, and honestly, I'm a guy that doesn't track gas mileage.
As far as power delivery, I think it's somewhat subjective (unless using a dyno). Most of my driving is in Comfort. The car is feels quite a bit faster off the line. When rolling at 30-35mph, with the RPM's about 1100, if I depress the accelerator about an inch, there is a downshift and a slight delay before the car delivers power. There is less delay if I push the pedal harder. I asked my dealer to have a look at it, and they think it's functioning normally and chalk it up to turbo lag, but encouraged me to contact Dinan. I got a hold of someone at Dinan, and we have a time set up in a couple weeks to test it out. They can program the box to go into standby mode which returns the car to stock, and then reprogram back to "tuned" to get a comparison. I did get a chance last weekend to take the car on a twisty mountain road, and did some driving in "Sport" and "Sport+" and shifting manually with the paddles. The car had way more power than I was willing to tap. Seriously, I don't know how the guys with the 550's handle the beast! Must be better driver's than me!! All in all, the car feels faster and more powerful. There are no rough shifts, torque delivery is strong at 1500RPM all the way to redline, no warning lights have come on the dash. The hesitation I'm feeling may well have been there before the tune, and I could be just more sensitive to it now. Dinan and my local dealer (Schomp BMW) have been superb in the customer service department. I'll report back after my next service appt. |
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Thanks very much for the review! So far there were no 1st-hand reports on the new Dinan tune that I could find.
I also read on the Dinan site that these boxes supposed to be bluetooth enabled so you can switch maps. Any experience with this? Thanks again! Quote:
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I asked the dealer about the ability to use the bluetooth feature to switch maps. Their response was that there is only one map available, and the bluetooth feature is not meant for consumer use. It's meant to be a one size fits all, plug and play device.
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Just wanted to clarify this statement now that I saw it. The bluetooth feature AT PRESENT is not meant for consumer use. We are in development on getting an idevice/android app for the end user that will allow you to change maps (although the 535 only has one at the moment anyway), put the box into bypass mode, software/firmware updates without having to take it into a dealer, etc. We are hopeful to have this available by year's end barring any major problems arising.
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It's going to be hard to get the 535i community to commit $2K+ for a tune on a car they may be getting rid of in a couple of years, like myself. Either need a sale or more testimonials to sway that audience from the much less expensive and popular JB4.
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Understood. Unfortunately that is the downside of being late to market on the 535i. We are confident that with additional people adopting the Dinan tune the reviews will reflect the superior drivability Dinan offers. In many markets there has been a push for Dinan demo vehicles so I encourage those that are interested into contacting their local Dinan dealer to see if a vehicle is available so you can feel the difference first hand. If there is not then perhaps just asking the question will spur them into action so one will be available soon thereafter.
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